Too much American History there. Marine Barracks at Eighth and I, The Smithsonian the Various Natural History and Science wings of Museums, The Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson and Marine Corps Memorials, and of course, the Honest men and women who live there.
Believe it or not, they do out number the Corrupt Government Officials.
If someone displays even a hint of patriotism, the jury selection process will disqualify them as a “Far right extremist”
November 29, 2024 at 2:59 pm
James/G
J6 Patriots aren’t being tried in DC, except for a few show trials. the Vast Majority have not received any due process at all, simply held in sequestered cells, with no outside contact, no Hearings, and now legal representation. essentially none of the rights guaranteed under the Constitution.
But, their Day is coming, and so Many Proglodytes are going to find out what Justice is…
November 29, 2024 at 11:59 am
rickn8or
This problem could have been solved neatly if Jimmy Carter had not stopped development of the neutron bomb. (Stopped development by the U.S. that is.)
Do it the Israeli way, learned from the 60’s dnc…target motorcades not buildings, it’s easier to sort them out that way and minimize hitting tour groups by accident š
Physical attacks are not necessary. Just revealing the sheer total of dirt the Russian intelligence services have on the In Crowd should guarantee most of them an extended stay in SuperMax.
It’s time to scrap “gentlemens’ agreements” on that sort of thing.
I was about to say pretty much the same thing. I was gonna suggest Putin has files on a good number of very bad actors (not all of them from Hollyweird) and the USA could use a good old-fashioned round up.
We already had one when the USSR imploded in 1991. Look up “Mitrokhin archive”.
As Tom Clancy said, when the (first) Cold War ended, we learned that the Russians had won the “spy war” hands down.
The thing is, it wasn’t the vaunted and feared KGB that was the most successful in infiltrating Western intelligence agencies. It was GRU, Russian military intelligence. KGB was too busy indulging in the sort of “foreign adventures” we associate with the CIA over here- with similarly unexpected results. (Another term for same is “backfired badly”.)
One of my college profs (ex-Agency) admitted to me in 1993 that among the successful GRU infiltrators at Langley were three he knew personally, one of whom he reported to. And no, neither he nor anybody else had any idea. They were just that good at what they were doing.
The moral is that the best “spy” is one nobody has any idea is a spy.
Great point. KGB had their wins, but GRU outclassed them in overall productivity. Motivated wolfhounds.
November 29, 2024 at 9:06 am
John
And just think.
The KGB was reorganized to near death, but the GRU is still alive and kicking.
November 29, 2024 at 10:18 am
eon
@john;
When KGB became FSB, the “equivalent” of FBI, I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry.
Today I do. Like the FBI, they seem to get most of their doctrine from that famous expert on investigation and law enforcement tactics, Mack Sennett.
clear ether
eon
November 29, 2024 at 10:59 am
JTC
Nobody, NOBODY, not KGB, not GRU, not even Mossad/IDF, infiltrates and orchestrates, and initiates the kaos (heh) like the deepstate.
November 29, 2024 at 11:29 am
Brent Dotson
While the movies don’t make this as clear as the books; James Bond was never really a spy. He was a counter agent. His job was elimination of enemy agents. To accomplish this, he sometimes had to assume a role.
November 29, 2024 at 5:13 pm
eon
@Brent Dotson;
Bond wasn’t really that, even. He was a literary throwback, a gentleman-adventurer who happened to take orders from the Crown.
He was a close parallel of Jim Maitland, Sapper’s “other” hero besides Bulldog Drummond and Tiny Carteret. It was said of Maitland that “Only he and the Almighty knew exactly what his job was, and it would be difficult to say which of them it would be harder to get a straight answer from”.
BTW, my prof came up in the Agency in the early 1950s, under the wartime OSS field executives. Some of them knew Fleming personally; none of them held him or any other British agent in much regard. Casino Royale (1951), the first 007 novel, was based on an incident in Lisbon in 1940- in which Fleming was nearly killed. The 1954 “Climax” U.S. TV adaptation with Barry Nelson as American agent “Card Sense Jimmy Bond” was closer to what actually happened than Fleming’s book.
BTW, those OSS types considered the Russians to be the best “spies” in the business. Richard Sorge (not executed by the Japanese; died of a heart attack in Moscow in 1964), Rudolf Abel, and the Rote Kapelle (Red Orchestra) apparat rather proved the point.
cheers
eon
November 29, 2024 at 11:04 am
JTC
Mr. Muir, nothing the contact info at the bottom has reverted to Indiatlantic…are you back home again in The Fla, something else to be thankful for?
Stuck in New Mexico for a bit. That’s my DBD mailing address, which forwards to me.
November 29, 2024 at 1:53 pm
Mort
Slightly off topic: I just finished watching
“Masters of the Air”, true story of the B-17
Fighter-Bomber crews over Germany in WWII.
IMO it is Great! Good as “Saving Private Ryan”
Saw it 9 part series on Apple TV.
July 1952 all over again. See “The Washington National Sightings” inThe Report on Unidentified Flying Objects by Capt. Edward J. Ruppelt. (Fairly easy to find free online.)
As Sam Clemens or somebody said, history doesn’t necessarily repeat itself, but it often rhymes.
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Too much American History there. Marine Barracks at Eighth and I, The Smithsonian the Various Natural History and Science wings of Museums, The Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson and Marine Corps Memorials, and of course, the Honest men and women who live there.
Believe it or not, they do out number the Corrupt Government Officials.
Get tried by a DC Jury, then come back and tell us that again.
If someone displays even a hint of patriotism, the jury selection process will disqualify them as a “Far right extremist”
J6 Patriots aren’t being tried in DC, except for a few show trials. the Vast Majority have not received any due process at all, simply held in sequestered cells, with no outside contact, no Hearings, and now legal representation. essentially none of the rights guaranteed under the Constitution.
But, their Day is coming, and so Many Proglodytes are going to find out what Justice is…
This problem could have been solved neatly if Jimmy Carter had not stopped development of the neutron bomb. (Stopped development by the U.S. that is.)
Do it the Israeli way, learned from the 60’s dnc…target motorcades not buildings, it’s easier to sort them out that way and minimize hitting tour groups by accident š
Thank you, James G.
Physical attacks are not necessary. Just revealing the sheer total of dirt the Russian intelligence services have on the In Crowd should guarantee most of them an extended stay in SuperMax.
It’s time to scrap “gentlemens’ agreements” on that sort of thing.
clear ether
eon
I was about to say pretty much the same thing. I was gonna suggest Putin has files on a good number of very bad actors (not all of them from Hollyweird) and the USA could use a good old-fashioned round up.
That would give a whole new meaning to the phrase āRed Scareā now wouldnāt it?
We already had one when the USSR imploded in 1991. Look up “Mitrokhin archive”.
As Tom Clancy said, when the (first) Cold War ended, we learned that the Russians had won the “spy war” hands down.
The thing is, it wasn’t the vaunted and feared KGB that was the most successful in infiltrating Western intelligence agencies. It was GRU, Russian military intelligence. KGB was too busy indulging in the sort of “foreign adventures” we associate with the CIA over here- with similarly unexpected results. (Another term for same is “backfired badly”.)
One of my college profs (ex-Agency) admitted to me in 1993 that among the successful GRU infiltrators at Langley were three he knew personally, one of whom he reported to. And no, neither he nor anybody else had any idea. They were just that good at what they were doing.
The moral is that the best “spy” is one nobody has any idea is a spy.
James Bond does not qualify.
clear ether
eon
Great point. KGB had their wins, but GRU outclassed them in overall productivity. Motivated wolfhounds.
And just think.
The KGB was reorganized to near death, but the GRU is still alive and kicking.
@john;
When KGB became FSB, the “equivalent” of FBI, I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry.
Today I do. Like the FBI, they seem to get most of their doctrine from that famous expert on investigation and law enforcement tactics, Mack Sennett.
clear ether
eon
Nobody, NOBODY, not KGB, not GRU, not even Mossad/IDF, infiltrates and orchestrates, and initiates the kaos (heh) like the deepstate.
While the movies don’t make this as clear as the books; James Bond was never really a spy. He was a counter agent. His job was elimination of enemy agents. To accomplish this, he sometimes had to assume a role.
@Brent Dotson;
Bond wasn’t really that, even. He was a literary throwback, a gentleman-adventurer who happened to take orders from the Crown.
He was a close parallel of Jim Maitland, Sapper’s “other” hero besides Bulldog Drummond and Tiny Carteret. It was said of Maitland that “Only he and the Almighty knew exactly what his job was, and it would be difficult to say which of them it would be harder to get a straight answer from”.
BTW, my prof came up in the Agency in the early 1950s, under the wartime OSS field executives. Some of them knew Fleming personally; none of them held him or any other British agent in much regard. Casino Royale (1951), the first 007 novel, was based on an incident in Lisbon in 1940- in which Fleming was nearly killed. The 1954 “Climax” U.S. TV adaptation with Barry Nelson as American agent “Card Sense Jimmy Bond” was closer to what actually happened than Fleming’s book.
BTW, those OSS types considered the Russians to be the best “spies” in the business. Richard Sorge (not executed by the Japanese; died of a heart attack in Moscow in 1964), Rudolf Abel, and the Rote Kapelle (Red Orchestra) apparat rather proved the point.
cheers
eon
Mr. Muir, nothing the contact info at the bottom has reverted to Indiatlantic…are you back home again in The Fla, something else to be thankful for?
…noting the contact info…
Stuck in New Mexico for a bit. That’s my DBD mailing address, which forwards to me.
Slightly off topic: I just finished watching
“Masters of the Air”, true story of the B-17
Fighter-Bomber crews over Germany in WWII.
IMO it is Great! Good as “Saving Private Ryan”
Saw it 9 part series on Apple TV.
Oh great, UFOs over DC. Who to blame this on… Putin? Sam? Trump?
https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1862321961575358937
July 1952 all over again. See “The Washington National Sightings” inThe Report on Unidentified Flying Objects by Capt. Edward J. Ruppelt. (Fairly easy to find free online.)
As Sam Clemens or somebody said, history doesn’t necessarily repeat itself, but it often rhymes.
cheers
eon
Sam, obviously.