Americans, Family, Statist Takeover ← Previous post Next post → Comments JTC Apr 22 2019 at 12:05 am That is a good question and there are a few good answers, most of which bear no likeness to the functions of it we are seeing today. However, it was my impression that the individual involved is a convicted felon in possession of a firearm, though I do not know the veracity and details. Merle Apr 22 2019 at 12:13 am I read the same thing – plus being arrested for impersonating a police officer… Makes me wonder – why would he go out for public exposure with a background like that? NotYetInACamp Apr 22 2019 at 3:59 pm The conspiracy reason would be that he was a plant and an excuse for all of the banks and paypal and platforms to use to ban them thus effecting all patriot groups, nationalist groups (not liked), right wing groups, gun clubs (sometime), and other allegedly nefarious people the leftoids hate. Just a simple false flag operation either by payment or going in and worm-tounging them as some did to other good thinking people. The left, the FBI, the Democrats, the globalists are now all appraised of the various ways to false flag. People who used to work for Killary’s, oops, Hillary’s election, later staged “right wing” patriot type events at which the police and others were ordered to act in ways that would almost ensure violence. Have I become that deep a cynic, or just a realist? Toxic Deplorable B Woodman Apr 22 2019 at 12:25 am This is the same Q&A from when Arizona passed a border protection law, and the O’Bozo administration sued them out of it, because (and this was the kicker) the FedGov said that the state was trying to take over the FedGov law and responsibility — which the FedGov wasn’t doing. NotYetInACamp Apr 22 2019 at 4:01 pm Cause for a morally just secession. Pamela Apr 22 2019 at 12:30 am https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mexican-troops-drew-weapons-on-american-soldiers-on-u-s-side-of-the-border WayneM Apr 22 2019 at 1:04 am I wonder if there was some kind of physical barrier, a clear demarcation, perhaps even a WALL, would it help make it clear to Mexican soldiers where they should be patrolling or not… That being said, I thought the Mexican cartels ran the border, not the Mexican Army? FC in NH Apr 22 2019 at 7:14 am There may well be a large overlap in their respective memberships. Being part of one doesn’t exclude also being part of the other. eon Apr 22 2019 at 7:14 am The cartels own the Mexican army, and police, so it amounts to the same thing. Among the various reasons for “Operation Fast & Furious” at BATFET was to use the “running” of guns to the cartels to cover up the fact that guns given to the Mexican police by the one’s crowd as “law enforcement assistance” were mostly being delivered by the place to the cartels, often without even being removed from the shipping boxes. clear ether eon GWB Apr 22 2019 at 8:14 am There IS a barrier there. It’s inside our border (as it should be), and the BP guys were on the other side of it, still inside the US. Our guys handled it well, though I would have radioed for air support – military air support. Roland Deschain Apr 22 2019 at 12:48 pm The Mexican Army is working for the cartels. And being paid a lot more by them than the government pays. interventor Apr 22 2019 at 1:23 pm Mexican army pulls things like this to take attention away from cartels smuggling in something. Misdirection. Old Codger Apr 22 2019 at 12:38 pm Foreign Armed Forces members detaining and disarming American Armed Forces members at gunpoint! How the HELL is that not an act of war?!?!?! Scott Bieser Apr 22 2019 at 12:44 pm It was a misunderstanding. The Americans were south of the barrier, but north of the border, which in that particular location is not clearly marked. Once the truth was known to all, the Mexicans returned the Americans’ guns, apologized, and went home. No need to start a shooting war. NotYetInACamp Apr 22 2019 at 4:10 pm The border in many places has shifted around the river over time and the ability to efficiently wall it and demarcate it does not exist. They better get along. It is other situations where the situation is not innocent that could be a problem. Those bad situations have occurred in the past. We need overall plans to win the war. I still suggest deporting every child of parents not subject to the jurisdiction of the USA. Maybe allowing for a few percent to stay after screening. No reward for illegal acts in coming to the USA should be allowed to be rewarded. the laws are on the books and US Supreme Court decisions. It is the major part of what got our current President elected. WayneM Apr 22 2019 at 1:00 am The majority of people voluntarily comply with reasonable laws and are satisfied to leave enforcement of laws to the police and the courts… but that is starting to change… and not in a good way… There’s been a broad-based powerful & sustained effort over the past five decades (or longer) to undermine cops. When was the last time you saw a tv show, movie or any representations where police were shown to be anything other than dullards, corrupt, racist or a combination thereof? Yet if you check the facts, nothing is further from the truth. Police put together an airtight case and the judge throws it out because someone cries “racism!” and the judge wants to play activist. The media paints the situation as an innocent individual being falsely accused by corrupt racist cops. Who cares about the victims? Who cares about the future victims of someone who walks away from the court laughing? Add to that a government who are all too eager to throw cops under the bus rather than risk having to deal with an outrage mob of leftist assholes… Are there a few bad apples? Absolutely… cops are human too… but the vast majority are good men & women who walk the line while regular folks cower behind cover. You couldn’t pay me enough to be a cop nowadays… yet some patriots still put on the badge and strap on the gun… kadaka Apr 22 2019 at 2:03 am Paris prosecutors probe ‘suicide’ taunts targeting police at protest Police suicides are up, and protestors are chanting “Commit Suicide”, although offhand I wonder if the translation should be “Go kill yourselves!” Sounds like France is hitting peak anarchist “Burn it all!” Punta Gorda Apr 22 2019 at 3:22 am Which Is SPECIFICALLY WHY,sending them to sanctuary cities makes perfect sense. They have ALREADY demonstrated and avertised a welcoming and protective environment for them. So let then prove how well the transients fit in. Redleg Apr 22 2019 at 7:23 am Try television’s “The Rookie” for a positive take on police work. Ed Brault Apr 22 2019 at 8:19 am “…a positive take on police work”. That’s probably why ABC is considering cancelling the show, while renewing “The Connors”> (BLECCHH) Zar Belk! GWB Apr 22 2019 at 8:39 am Cancelling? Didn’t know that. (Of course, it could also be that they won’t be rookies any more at the end of this season. When you name a tv show something like that, you’re asking for a limited run.) @Redleg, I’m not so sure The Rookie is a “positive spin” for a conservative, or someone invested in freedom, or a gun nut, or a lot of other things. Although I generally find the show enjoyable to watch for the characters, I find myself yelling at the computer frequently when they do stupid crap with guns, or when they told the cartoon vigilantes “let the professionals handle this”, or they’re grossly violating safety or procedure or civil rights. Browncoat Apr 22 2019 at 1:16 pm Thanks… was going to post the same. kadaka Apr 22 2019 at 1:37 am FBI arrests leader of armed group stopping migrants in New Mexico … Hopkins, 69, also known as Johnny Horton, was arrested in Sunland Park, New Mexico, on a federal complaint charging him with being a felon in possession of firearms and ammunition, the Federal Bureau of Investigation said in a statement. A felon with guns and ammo, who is also a patriot. Not quite as advertised. cmblake6 Apr 22 2019 at 1:43 am If you are a PATRIOT, protecting our nation, what kind of left wing libtard bullshit IS this? Anything, ANYthing they can use… SMH! And check my load. kadaka Apr 22 2019 at 2:25 am Everyone noticed how the vast majority of Mueller’s “Trump Inner Circle” prosecutions had Ukrainian connections, right? Ukraine comedian Zelensky wins presidency in landslide Kiev (AFP) – A comedian with no political experience won a landslide victory in Ukraine’s presidential election, drawing congratulations from global leaders while dealing a stunning rebuke to his country’s political establishment. Volodymyr Zelensky, whose only previous political role was playing the president in a TV show, trounced incumbent Petro Poroshenko by taking 73.2 percent of the vote, according to nearly complete official results released early Monday. Drew Carey should run for President. USMC vet, outspoken libertarian. Anything’s possible. cz93x62 Apr 22 2019 at 2:46 am “Ex-felon with firearm” is seldom charged Federally–IME it is always a State charge handled in State courts. El Federales are embarrassed and humiliated, and this poor jerk is going to pay full price+ for putting this whoopee cushion on the King’s throne. Charged Federally, this guy is looking at 5 years in Federal Prison and $10K fine, and Fed time means 85% of the sentenced time prior to release. There can be “Upward and downward departures” on this sentence, at the discretion of the Court. As for the Mexican Army personnel jacking up our troops, some combination of f–ked up ROEs and/or extreme patience and courage by our troops explain this occurrence. Mexican Army acting as an adjunct to cartel shipment efforts should surprise no one, and I think an adjustment in ROEs on the border is long overdue–basically, if uniformed 16-17 year old soldiers step onto our soil with H&K G-3 rifles, expect them to be returned in a body bag. Rumpkins with AK-47s or M1 Carbines get strafed off if they pose a threat to U.S. or local personnel. If Mexico and the cartels want a war, things will go poorly quickly for the other side. The border has been a clusterf–k since the days of Pancho Villa. It is time to re-regulate matters in that vicinity. kadaka Apr 22 2019 at 3:17 am For decades now, when the proggies call for more “gun control”, the NRA and others have pointed out we need enforcing of current law. This included frequently noting how local prosecutors won’t involve Federal prosecutors to send away felons with guns on federal charges. I have long supported that. Hopkins is allegedly a felon with a gun. I ain’t no hypocrite liberal, I’ll just note that out of fairness this should be done a lot more often no matter who the felon is. Robert P. Apr 22 2019 at 6:08 am Completely agree. On the line hypocritical actions though it should be noted that leftist protestors who are caught time and time again causing public and private damage while being aggressive with peace officers and counter protestors are almost always ROR until the charges are dropped. GWB Apr 22 2019 at 8:33 am One of the problems in a society of humans is that the people we need to stand up with are often not the sort of people we want to stand up with. And what jurisdiction – Constitutionally speaking – do the feds have to ban firearm possession by a felon? Maybe buying a firearm across state lines (entailing the felon actually having it shipped across state lines, NOT simply buying one in a local store that came from elsewhere). Maybe he was on federal land? The feds have way too many laws on their books that aren’t supposed to reside at that level. kadaka Apr 22 2019 at 9:45 am See here. 1968 Gun Control Act bans felon possession of guns as well as for those convicted of “misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.” However, as seen here, the states can determine to restore all or partial gun rights. GWB Apr 22 2019 at 11:26 am Oh, kadaka, I don’t dispute there’s a law. I dispute the constitutionality of said law, unless it directly involves crossing state lines. kadaka Apr 22 2019 at 11:49 am Oh, GWB, if you start disputing the constitutionality of the GCA, you’ve about the same as disputed the NFA, which leads to scrutiny from the BATFE who wonder if and when you went Sovereign Citizen… This many years and this many Supreme Court decisions later, it’s like disputing the constitutionality of the 2016 Presidential election. Sounds sorta nutso, you know? S'aaruuk Apr 22 2019 at 5:37 am As Kadaka pointed out, Hopkins is allegedly a ‘felon in possession of a firearm’. Wonder what the odds are that this is a totally bullshit, made-up charge to justify their actions and vilify Hopkins so he doesn’t look like a sympathetic victim of FBI overreach/corruption? Not saying, just asking. And given the level of bullshittery the FBI was up to these past 2 1/2 years over Trump, you really have to wonder. You see, I well remember “Ranch Rescue”, a quasi-militia group of volunteers bringing their own weapons/equipment and being hired by border ranchers to protect their land from the coyotes and drug mules constantly coming through their property. Quite a few of them had bullet pock-marks and holes in their homes from these POS’s actually shooting at them (the land owners) and the govt threatening them with prosecution/imprisonment if they returned fire. WTF????? These assholes are on OUR SOIL, on PRIVATE PROPERTY, shooting at US CITIZENS and we’re being told that WE’LL be prosecuted if we defend ourselves by returning fire?????? What pissed me off the worst was that this was during the Bush administration and the govt came down on R-R so hard they finally disbanded. So damn right…..Trump needs to CHANGE THE ROE’s and unleash/unshackle both the Border Patrol as well as the land owners. And as cold as this may sound, I’ve got no real problem if a few 15-16yo’s get sent back to Mexico in body bags when they shoot at our people, LE/BP or civilian. WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND OURSELVES, OUR PROPERTY AND OUR COUNTRY. Swansonic Apr 22 2019 at 8:14 am OT but well said. https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/stuckey-democratic-presidential-candidates GWB Apr 22 2019 at 8:28 am Basically, the government arrested a man for doing their job. I’m going to disagree there, Chris. They arrested a citizen for doing his job. Remember that the gov’t in our nation is granted power and authority by the people. The laws are ours to enforce – we simply hire people to do full time what it is the citizen’s responsibility to do, anyway. Anytime someone says crap like “leave that to the professionals”* or that folks are “vigilantes” or “taking the law into their own hands” remind them that The government’s power derives from ours, not the other way around! That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed (IMO, the problem with vigilantes is not that they are enforcing the law, but that they can easily slip into a mob mentality, and enact sentencing on an accused without the rights afforded by our Constitution and common law. Of course, our professionals in the various police agencies would never have a problem with violating our rights, ’cause they’re from the government, right? Right?) (* Assuming they’re not talking something tactically difficult, or that requires special equipment you don’t have.) kadaka Apr 22 2019 at 9:27 am I’ve seen groups who do a proper job, they keep watch at the border and call in a report to Border Patrol with the info needed to round up the illegal crossers. Overnight I saw footage of these yahoos with their official-looking fake badges, telling groups of illegals they were Border Patrol, and forcibly detaining the groups. What’s the difference between that and pulling over a truckload of brown-skinned people on a freeway they think are suspicious? If I’m hiking with my family along a wilderness trail, and some random guys suddenly pop up with shiny badges saying they’re taking us into custody and demanding we surrender, I would likely risk those poor benighted fools bleeding out before help could arrive rather than hope they really aren’t going to hurt us. And hey, it’s Earth Day, support the original all-natural recycling and composting methods. GWB Apr 22 2019 at 11:36 am a proper job, they keep watch at the border and call in a report to Border Patrol That still assumes that it’s “proper” to stay out of the way of the authorities. As to “pulling over a truckload of brown-skinned people”, I was under the impression they witnessed them cross the border. That would be illegal, and therefore well within the duties of a citizen to detain them until they can be adjudicated. (I admit I could be wrong on the facts, here. But, while the ACLU tweeted that they were ‘kidnappers’, it doesn’t appear he has been charged with any version of “illegal detention”.) Oh, and that “felon” bit? I find it interesting (in the sense of “really bad journalism”) that the Reuters article talks about him being arrested, but they never mention a conviction. You would think that – given the charge for which he was arrested – they would tell you precisely what he was actually convicted of. kadaka Apr 22 2019 at 12:00 pm “but they never mention a conviction” Google: “larry hopkins felony conviction”. First result: He has a long arrest record, dating back to at least 1986, when he was arrested and convicted of the “felony of false pretenses,” or fraud, in Midland County, Michigan. Decades later, in 2006, Hopkins was arrested in Klamath County, Oregon on charges of impersonating a police officer and being a felon in possession of a firearm. According to the arrest report filed in Klamath County, police found Hopkins at a gas station showing off a gun to a group of young people. The arrest report says that Hopkinns was also showing the group of juveniles a badge that said “special agent” and was telling them that he was a police officer. Hopkins pleaded guilty to impersonating a police officer and to one count of possessing a firearm. One Minute. Chris Muir Apr 22 2019 at 12:04 pm Kadaka, the ‘One Minute’ thing is pushing it. Be polite or be gone. GWB Apr 22 2019 at 6:20 pm Note, I was not conspiracy theorizing about the conviction, I was pointing out how bad the journalism was. They easily could have pointed out his conviction, but went with his arrest instead. Was it error or trying to conflate “arrest” with “guilty”? I don’t know, but either is Bad Journalism. (And thanks for the info. Facts are always good.) Spin Drift Apr 22 2019 at 9:52 am For an interesting take on the US troops and Mexican’s dance card go read Aesop at Raconteur Report. He has a very first hand summation of what most likely went on down there. And if you like his scribbling you can read is facts and opinion of the Ebola cha cha cha going on in Africa. Spin The more you know… Jim Verdolini Apr 22 2019 at 11:06 am The government is supposed to protect us and guarantee equal justice under the law. It fails at both. Henry Apr 22 2019 at 1:27 pm The Constitution was supposed to restrain government, while delegating the authority to “interpret” its text and punish infringing officials, to the very entity being restrained. Needless to say, it has failed at all of the above. Jim Verdolini Apr 22 2019 at 11:09 am Proudon wrote: “To be governed is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-ridden, regulated, penned up, indoctrinated, preached at, checked, appraised, seized, censured, commanded, by beings who have neither title, nor knowledge, nor virtue. To be governed is to have every operation, every transaction, every movement noted, registered, counted, rated, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, refused, authorized, endorsed, admonished, prevented, reformed, redressed, corrected. DonS Apr 22 2019 at 11:27 am Black Pigeon Speaks (BPS) is a Canadian expat and worldwide traveler, living in Tokyo, commenting via YouTube on world politics, cultural issues, and current events. Here is his latest video on a unique cultural festival in Japan, Kanamara: Festival of the One Eyed Monster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daHUcjEv2Po I think I’ve heard the legend of the demon in the snatch (or at least the teeth), waiting to bite off the unwary weenie, in western culture too… LOL! Where can I get some of those lady bits suckers? Henry Apr 22 2019 at 1:24 pm “Basically, the government arrested a man for doing THEIR job.” Nothing new. Set your Wayback Machine to 1844: https://fee.org/articles/lysander-spooner-the-anarchist-who-single-handedly-took-on-the-us-post-office/ JTC Apr 22 2019 at 2:09 pm Fair warning, I will be seeking reparations for the many years of scrimping, saving, extra jobs and all of the hard work that I and my kids put into achieving their goal of educating them. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/warren-calls-for-massive-student-debt-relief-and-free-public-college-tuition/ar-BBWaYx4?li=BBnbfcL Stupid socialist vote-mongering bitch. NotYetInACamp Apr 22 2019 at 4:49 pm Your reparations and a new limit on school tuition and pay across the board depending on subject matter, and whether business is paying the salary for teaching for jobs they have waiting. or something like that. Otherwise no. Almost he entire college education system and student loan system has been a scam of the students and of the public paying so much of the bill. It seems somewhat similar to the World Bank or China or others loaning money to countries with corrupt leaders and/or low IQ people that never will pay the loans back, then taking over the valuables in the nation. Many of those debts are not morally or legally obligated to be paid by certain principles of common law. But the government has the gun and legal enforcement powers. You and your children did it right. JTC Apr 22 2019 at 11:07 pm Yeah, TANSTAAFL. Except when gov is involved…while it sure as hell still ain’t free, I am sick to death of working my ass off so that somebody else can eat my lunch. Absolutely academia is a scam and a radical leftist one at that. You want a loan to pay for that, go to the bank. Better yet, work and save to pay for what you want out of your own damn pocket. The only money gov has is what it extorts from me and I’m not in a forgiving mood…I want my damn money back, either from the deadbeat students who borrowed it or from the colleges that squandered it, let them write off their bad debts like every other business in the real world, and if they fold under that weight good riddance. You think it’s bad now? Wait until every criminal invader that is encouraged to come here starts looking for their “free” lunch in the way of education, medical, housing, and a “basic income”. wage…all for the low low price of voting for the likes of this “stupid socialist mongering bitch” I mentioned above. NotYetInACamp Apr 23 2019 at 12:07 am You define what is wrong well. And bad things to come should we not stop them. An example of getting a loan is in one of my favorite 1980’s movies. The protagonist, who lives in and takes care of a a trailer park his mother manages while working as a waitress, does not get the loan from the bank. The High School student looking to go to a good college, Alex Rogan, is devastated. Then Centauri (Robert Preston) shows up as a result of his high video game score, and the transition to becoming The Last Starfighter begins. So a great nice pleasant little movie develops. And he gets the girl (Catherine Mary Stewart). Pamela Apr 22 2019 at 4:16 pm Then there is this: https://www.barrons.com/articles/social-security-deficit-reserves-check-benefits-payroll-tax-51555958282 How much money over the decades by each President/Congress was moved out from the Social Security Trust Fund to fund (INSERT HERE)? How much money and by what President/Congress was reimbursed to the Social Security Trust Fund? I unfortunately had to take it early after my breast cancer treatment. No one wants to hire a cancer survivor. My 25 years in Construction counted for nothing. I think the Illegals are being used by the Dems/Progs/Comms/Socs as blunt instruments to break EVERYTHING American Citizens have done. I’m tired of others wanting what I worked and sweated over. JTC Apr 22 2019 at 11:12 pm Pamela, see above. “Free” education and student loan “forgiveness” are just other iterations of the SSI “disability” program that is stealing your SS account blind. And it won’t stop until we stop it, or are left with nothing of what we worked and earned for ourselves and our families. NotYetInACamp Apr 22 2019 at 11:57 pm What will who control? What are our God given rights? How to we assert them? How do we protect them? What is the meaning of life? (See the crush your enemies and hear the lamentations of their women video clip. That really gets in the way of a whole lot.) How often and which questions does government answer, and how often does government get it right? Governments of mainly similar people with much in common result in results most of the people want most often. Identity politics in use today is used to control those people and force them into results they do not want. All means are used to control by those not concerned about the people they desire to control. Reply Comment Name * Email * Website Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Click here to have toons delivered to email This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.