it might have originally been an anti-war song, but a friend of mine (now in Valhalla) used to start it up o his 8-track gong to work in 1970-71.
His work was flying out of Phuoa Vinh in his UH-1C gunship, to escort First Air Cav slicks- and deliver life-altering beat-downs to “Charlie” with 2.75inch rockets.
Hi Eon. It sounds like you mean Phouc Vinh – just a little north of Bien Hoa where we had an Air Force base. I was there as a scout pilot (LOHs) pretty much the same time – last part of 69 through first quarter of 71-with the 11th Armored Calvary.
Be safe.
Yeah, that’s what I meant but I had a finger malfunction.
He told me that in the 1C, you needed to be doing at least 80-90 KTS TAS when firing 2.75s, because otherwise they didn’t fly all that straight.
Since the 2.75 FFAR was originally designed for jet interceptors like the F-89 and F-94, which would be traveling at around 450 KTS when the pilot triggered them off, that’s probably not surprising.
cheers
eon
June 26, 2026 at 10:32 am
Oldarmourer
The old ‘Mickey Mouse’ 2.75’s were unpredictable at best.
There’s ‘gun camera’ footage of a CF-100 firing the wingtip pods and one looping around the nose of the A/C before wandering off somewhere else. The only real guarantee of accuracy was that they would stay in the air until they hit ther ground, although the later models like the Mk4 Mod10 could be aimed at ground targets with surprisingly decent accuracy, from the right altitude and angle. The successor CRV’s, that we sold to the US among others, flew straight as an arrow and a lot faster. At a competition in Germany, our A/C got disqualified because the motor was still burning when it hit the ground and they claimed we were using HE heads. The steel ballast rods in the practice heads were punching holes in the target tanks until they were replaced with milder steel ones, but out of that came the tungsten carbide anti-armour heads, some with one and others with 3 or 5 smaller ‘darts’ guaranteed to make some tanker’s life miserable, or as ‘the Chieftan’ says…”give him a significant emotional event.”
June 26, 2026 at 7:07 pm
Oldarmourer
That should of course read ‘Mighty Mouse’ Rx, I saw that but my fingers didn’t, they’re getting old and can’t be trusted anymore.
June 26, 2026 at 12:45 am
Kafiroon
Same old, same old. Those that push for war don’t send their sons. Especially those in PolyTicks, or rich enough.
Yeah, the “My son is too good for military service” philosophy.
I was a Boy Scout in high school, early 1960s, and my father, a retired LtCol, was the Scoutmaster. We were sponsored by our church. One day a group of parishioners went to our pastor, and asked him if a “military man” should be permitted to hold a position of responsibility in the church.
He knew they were talking about my Father, but he told them he had no problem with the idea, and they were free to take up the question with the Pastor-Parish Relations Committee.
They asked what the PPRC had to do with the Scoutmaster.
He replied, “Oh. I thought you were talking about my service as an Army Chaplain.”
Worse than that. The post-modern “enlightened ones” believe that “criminals” are all members of oppressed minorities, so anything they do to somebody else is justified. (As long as they’re not doing it to the elite”, of course.)
The more extreme ones consider violent criminals the “front-line soldiers in our war against the repressive society”. “Repressive” because now and then, somebody is allowed to tell the elite’ “No, you can’t do that”.
Finally, the typical “Democratic socialist” thinks that being a crime victim is “the price you pay for past wrongs”. (Again, as long as the victim isn’t them.)
Like fin-de-siecle’ French anarchist Emile’ Henry, they believe that “there are no innocent bourgeoisie”.
Hence their overall attitude toward what criminals do to everybody else.
Worse, they believe in doing away with borders, the military and police, and letting the criminals run loose. Somehow the “Democratic Socialists” think that they will be in control of the anarchy.
Just now, on FOX, Axios is reporting that ten “Centrist Democrats” are pledging to go to war with any of the NYC Communists if they are actually elected. They claim to support Capitalism over Socialism, fiscal discipline, strong borders, safety not lawlessness and pride in the United States. They call the incoming Communists “Bomb throwers, not problem solvers.”
Every side gets all kinds.
The sane Democrats (I know it sounds like a contradiction in terms) are generally just knee-jerk anti Republicans, and too many Republicans are dyed in the wool Fascists (who are themselves actually Socialists with an attitude).
I guess it can’t be helped when one is forced to pick one side or the other.
Like it or not, this is a Republic with democratic roots and we just have to live with it to make it work.
June 26, 2026 at 7:08 pm
PaulS-MEGA-ANGRY
Gee, these guys sound like Republicans should!
Fixed. 😉
June 26, 2026 at 9:22 am
epador
The sad part is my estranged son is probably still a part of the self-perceived victim elites.
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it might have originally been an anti-war song, but a friend of mine (now in Valhalla) used to start it up o his 8-track gong to work in 1970-71.
His work was flying out of Phuoa Vinh in his UH-1C gunship, to escort First Air Cav slicks- and deliver life-altering beat-downs to “Charlie” with 2.75inch rockets.
clear ether
eon
Hi Eon. It sounds like you mean Phouc Vinh – just a little north of Bien Hoa where we had an Air Force base. I was there as a scout pilot (LOHs) pretty much the same time – last part of 69 through first quarter of 71-with the 11th Armored Calvary.
Be safe.
Yeah, that’s what I meant but I had a finger malfunction.
He told me that in the 1C, you needed to be doing at least 80-90 KTS TAS when firing 2.75s, because otherwise they didn’t fly all that straight.
Since the 2.75 FFAR was originally designed for jet interceptors like the F-89 and F-94, which would be traveling at around 450 KTS when the pilot triggered them off, that’s probably not surprising.
cheers
eon
The old ‘Mickey Mouse’ 2.75’s were unpredictable at best.
There’s ‘gun camera’ footage of a CF-100 firing the wingtip pods and one looping around the nose of the A/C before wandering off somewhere else. The only real guarantee of accuracy was that they would stay in the air until they hit ther ground, although the later models like the Mk4 Mod10 could be aimed at ground targets with surprisingly decent accuracy, from the right altitude and angle. The successor CRV’s, that we sold to the US among others, flew straight as an arrow and a lot faster. At a competition in Germany, our A/C got disqualified because the motor was still burning when it hit the ground and they claimed we were using HE heads. The steel ballast rods in the practice heads were punching holes in the target tanks until they were replaced with milder steel ones, but out of that came the tungsten carbide anti-armour heads, some with one and others with 3 or 5 smaller ‘darts’ guaranteed to make some tanker’s life miserable, or as ‘the Chieftan’ says…”give him a significant emotional event.”
That should of course read ‘Mighty Mouse’ Rx, I saw that but my fingers didn’t, they’re getting old and can’t be trusted anymore.
Same old, same old. Those that push for war don’t send their sons. Especially those in PolyTicks, or rich enough.
Yeah, the “My son is too good for military service” philosophy.
I was a Boy Scout in high school, early 1960s, and my father, a retired LtCol, was the Scoutmaster. We were sponsored by our church. One day a group of parishioners went to our pastor, and asked him if a “military man” should be permitted to hold a position of responsibility in the church.
He knew they were talking about my Father, but he told them he had no problem with the idea, and they were free to take up the question with the Pastor-Parish Relations Committee.
They asked what the PPRC had to do with the Scoutmaster.
He replied, “Oh. I thought you were talking about my service as an Army Chaplain.”
And that, as they say, was the end of that.
When the “elite “ believe that the military and police are no better than the criminals
Worse than that. The post-modern “enlightened ones” believe that “criminals” are all members of oppressed minorities, so anything they do to somebody else is justified. (As long as they’re not doing it to the elite”, of course.)
The more extreme ones consider violent criminals the “front-line soldiers in our war against the repressive society”. “Repressive” because now and then, somebody is allowed to tell the elite’ “No, you can’t do that”.
Finally, the typical “Democratic socialist” thinks that being a crime victim is “the price you pay for past wrongs”. (Again, as long as the victim isn’t them.)
Like fin-de-siecle’ French anarchist Emile’ Henry, they believe that “there are no innocent bourgeoisie”.
Hence their overall attitude toward what criminals do to everybody else.
Their “philosophy” is
“Suck it up- you f**king had it coming.”
clear ether
eon
Worse, they believe in doing away with borders, the military and police, and letting the criminals run loose. Somehow the “Democratic Socialists” think that they will be in control of the anarchy.
Just now, on FOX, Axios is reporting that ten “Centrist Democrats” are pledging to go to war with any of the NYC Communists if they are actually elected. They claim to support Capitalism over Socialism, fiscal discipline, strong borders, safety not lawlessness and pride in the United States. They call the incoming Communists “Bomb throwers, not problem solvers.”
Gee, these guys sound like Republicans!
Zar Belk!
Every side gets all kinds.
The sane Democrats (I know it sounds like a contradiction in terms) are generally just knee-jerk anti Republicans, and too many Republicans are dyed in the wool Fascists (who are themselves actually Socialists with an attitude).
I guess it can’t be helped when one is forced to pick one side or the other.
Like it or not, this is a Republic with democratic roots and we just have to live with it to make it work.
Gee, these guys sound like Republicans should!
Fixed. 😉
The sad part is my estranged son is probably still a part of the self-perceived victim elites.
🙁