Maybe. Does it matter?
Sound strategy is sound strategy, no matter where you find it or who is deploying it.
What is government good for? Wasting your money.
Some fellow said recently “You want power? God, I hope you never get it!”
N.B.: The “Middle East” has not known peace in over 15,000 years.
In college I took a class in middle eastern history. We had to do a notebook answering certain questions. First question was “What happened during this period?”. Some guys took over 100 pages (typed) to answer it with one guy doing almost 200! The period under study was 250 years. Those people have been killing each other since FREAKING FOREVER! Before Moo Ham Ed it was tribes of Arabs killing each other. After Moo Ham Ed it was “tribes” of Mud-slimes killing other”tribes” over doctrinal points SMALLER than the differences between Southern Baptists and Primitive Baptists. Moo Ham Ed changed nothing!
For the record, I agreed with Kirk in the film. Also, that accurately portrayed the difference between the actors’ politics. Shatner is very much a conservative while Nemoy was as much a libtard as Spock would have been to try and broker peace among the Klingons.
“So you’re sayin there’s a chance!?” Some Republicans most Democrats are just Dumb and Dummer.
Great quote from Lindsay Graham and his newly rediscovered testicular fortitude.
You remember Lindsey Graham and his rant, yes?
Of course, I do. It was as though someone had taken a muzzle off of him. After all, McCain was dead and….
I thought I was the only one that noticed that Lindsey Graham came out of his shell after McShame died.
No matter whether it goes by progressive, liberal, socialist, or communist:
“It’s dead, Jim.”
And I hear The Sudis have moved troops in. Hence the balance continues as it was.
Islam continues in its centuries old dance. Shia, Sunni, others. It’s Islam. People die. Let them do it without us.
And no US troops getting chewed up in combat as the Muslim president made sure happened for eight years. The personnel are the valuable people involved. The material can all be replaced.
And we sell more USA made war supplies to the Saudis.
And the Kurds will not be attacked in force as they might have been with the USA forces gone. (Typical shifting alliances as in Islamic history)
Our people not getting maimed and killed, and selling USA made goods.
What’s not to like.
Star Trek is a great source for inspiration if this is the result.
I also like the Gorn episode where Kirk told the Arkon (?) that as a species we are killers, and we choose not to kill today. That was his reason to not kill the Gorn commander whom he had defeated and held the knife to the Gorn’s throat, then let it go. The Gorn starship had been used by the Gorn to kill all in a Federation Colony.
I do have a Psychology degree. 🙂
Captains Kirk and Trump are both right…let ’em die.
Because WAR! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing if it’s not our war.
Beautiful lesson too, that advisers like Spock and Mattis are not in the big seat on the bridge, and sometimes their advice is not pure.
I’d be willing to bet a paycheck swap that President Trump hasn’t even seen Star Trek, or know what Star Trek is without an advisor whispering in his ear.
Many truths are universal across time and space. One of them is, that you can’t save everybody. Another is, often you have to let the other people kill themselves and die, in order to save your own.
Muzzies breed like bloodthirsty fleas, and add zip, zero, zilch, nada, goose egg, to Western civilization. Or ANY civilization.
All the Mudslimes in the middle could die tomorrow and in 10 years there would STILL be a net increase in Mudslimes world wide over right now. Mudslimes reproduce not like rabbits but like gerbils and hamsters! Hamsters and gerbils were sitting on the front row of the Reproduction 101 class taking copious notes. Rabbits were sitting in the back of the room passing notes and shooting spit wads.
the kurds deserve better. as usual, they do the lion’s share of the work and get nothing in return but death.
Agreed. It seem like the Kurds always end up holding the smelly end of the schtick… Mind you, they’ve become accustomed to being abandoned so they’ve likely built it into their battle plan.
The Kurds should remove themselves from the PPK — Kurdish, but communists, atheists and even nastier than ISIS when it comes to violence. Give the Turks no excuse to attack the rest of them.
I’ve talked to a few kurds on gab. the PKK is disliked by the majority of them, and there is some proof the PKK is funded by the turks through a few cut-outs to give them the boogeyman they need to do whatever they like.
Hopefully (and apparently) PDJT understands better than most that humanitarian entanglements within that culture is a losing proposition with innumerable tribes and alliances and most dangerously to outside parties, in constant flux as to their agendas, operators, and alliances.
It’s a fool’s errand (aka George Jr. and the Zero) and beyond enforcing America First interests (as a SpecOps strike force calling in air/sea strikes is being prepped to do), our men have no fucking business there, and the tribes can go back to their wars older than the Son whose birth we are celebrating.
As to that, and as to there being just one Captain on the bridge:
Let them die indeed… http://mapsofwar.com/ind/imperial-history.html
Last frame, I laughed so hard I near choked! Well said, Bones.
Not to mention at the beginning hearing that song in my head…
How about building a giant friggin’ wall around the middle east and let them have at it. Last man standing gets the participation trophy and a hearty handshake…….
Because walls are racist! Duh!
How about a Laurel, and Hardy handshake?
I say sell all arab countries a million MOABS with nonremovable proximity fuses which allow them to only explode in the ME outside of Israel.
If the islamics ever achieved their world caliphate they might have 30 minutes or so of peace as they congratulate each other; then they’d start back to killing each other.
Eventually one bloody figure would be left, telling his deity that it’s too bad no one else is left alive, but as long as he lives, the worship will be done correctly.
I have for years been an advocate for muslim on muslim violence. We should encourage and nurture it for not doing so places us in peril.
There is absolutely nothing in the teachings of the child rapist that is compatible with the founding tenets of the USA – none.
It must be remembered that Arab tribalism, blood feuds, and clan wars predate Islam. Islam, the religious cult, was created mainly to have a belief system which said “normal” Arab tribalist behavior was acceptable when both Judaism and Christianity were saying “you’re doing it wrong”.
The same dynamic exists in “Latino” culture mainly due to a combination of
1. The fact that Spanish and Portuguese culture, originally derived from the aggressive and warlike Carthaginians, was later (and still is) even more strongly based on Islam, because the Iberian peninsula was controlled and dominated by a Muslim caliphate from the late 7th to the late 15th Centuries A.D.; and
2. The “native” cultures of Central and South America (Inca, Maya, Aztec, etc.) were themselves tribalist and warlike, and had been engaged in largely pointless internecine warfare for centuries before Europeans arrived, going back to the early Olmecs.
Incidentally, all of the above are superstitious, primitivist, male-dominated, highly misogynist, and will instinctively kill over what they define as “honor”. Especially if the most convenient victim is female, hence “honor killing”.
Considering that Catholicism has had little or no effect on the murderous nature of Latino culture, it may just be that any Islamic-based culture is fundamentally savage, and essentially unsalvageable.
Catholicism grew out of early Christianity in the Roman Empire, and adopted a lot of “Roman” attitudes.
And even the Romans had trouble with the Arab clans, which “post-modern” historians don’t want to talk about because their dogmas demand that they paint the Romans themselves, plus the Jews and the early Christians, as the “bad guys” everywhere.
I blame T.E. Lawrence, aka Lawrence of Arabia, for a lot of the crap that goes on now. (Yes, the movie is stunning, really captures the deserts of Morocco, Jordan and parts of Spain where it was filmed.)
What a line: “I’m going to give them their freedom”.
They had the freedom of the desert, the freedom to wander eternally and slaughter each other. They were just lousy negotiators until Lawrence got Feisal to bring them together and get control of the Saudi peninsula’s oil fields.
What about Gertrude Bell…
“It’s no way to spend 5 billion dollars… with a political bone.”
Local news just showed Chuck Schumer of the Entitlement Party saying that in the Senate yesterday. I’m not sure which is thicker, the irony or the hypocrisy.
You really got to wonder about Chuckie’s motivations for this Mexican standoff.
I’m not sure which is thicker, the irony or the hypocrisy.
Neither. it’s his skull!
One could say maybe DiFi has him by the short hairs??
Or maybe he thinks he will somehow profit from this whole thing???
Vanity? Bad Habits? Just plain stupid?
There are so many, many choices.
He is an enemy of the USA and the Constitution.
If he thinks about it beyond mere power and obeying his rulers.
Shumer follows the script of this moment that he is given.
If this region did not have an abundance of hydrocarbons under it we would not be there, we would let them alone, but history shows that 3 of the planets major religions are founded within a short drive, and all on a historic trade route. Seems like the only time they are happy is when they are slitting their neighbors throats.
Our departure will not settle anything,
The irony comes from the fact that an over 50 year old Tv show still is affecting the collective consciousness, and molding our society.
I think G Roddenberry would approve of this.
Our departure surely will not settle anything among them that is irrelevant to our interests. But to the degree that their internal warring turns toward those interests -and that includes the weaponizing of those hydrocarbons- that’s what our Air Force and Navy are for.
Nothing ironic about the parallel of the teevee show to reality and the former did not “affect” the latter but rather was an effect of it.
And nothing has or will change…50 years? Pfft. Try 500 or 5000. Klingons will be Kilingons whether on Praxis or in the ME.
Let ’em die. And leave us out of it or we will help them do that.
Time to use that Bureaucrats and Politicians Realignment Kit: Rope, bureaucrat / politician, tall tree or lamp post, some assembly required.
Today’s guest of honor; Cucky Tumor.
Zed asked “What is government good for? Absolutely nothing!” And, as it functions these days, he’s not far wrong. But Jefferson would likely tell him that governments ARE good for something. One of Jefferson’s “self-evident” truths was that governments exist to protect (secure) the rights of men. Governments do have a purpose. As do nations.
There is a very thought provoking piece from Dr. Larry Arn, President of Hillsdale College in this month’s issue of their – FREE – publication, “Imprimis” titled “Do We Need Our Country Anymore?” I wanted to put a link to that piece here but it is not yet available. here is the home page of Imprimis: https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/
I get this O.C.. Interesting articles every month.
Doesn’t that make Sam a much better looking Scottie?
Who’s hair looks better? Kirk’s or Trump’s…
Don’t want to see Trump with his shirt off………
*shudders at the thought*
It’s fine…he wears a leotard with a big S on the chest under there. 🙂
Have to consider as our unbalanced (in every sense of the word) media rush to find and interview current and former mil guys who are anxious to get some teevee time and vent their disagreements with their commander in chief, and also various leftist and ironically, hawkish pols to do the same, that a man like Zed who has been there and done that closeup, now says the mission is done.
As I’ve said, those who would be POTUS and CIC are not, for a reason. Thank God.
But maybe Zed would be a good man for DT. Or maybe Zed like all Deplorables, in many ways IS DT.
The three amputee raising money for the wall has been in legal trouble for fraud. gofundme releases funds regardless if the amount raised never reaches the stated goal. He is potentially $10,000,000 richer.
Brian Kolfage Jr. is very open and public about himself. The GoFundMe page has the details about what will happen with the money, links to his Facebook and other pages. Web search finds the Gary Sinise Foundation helped him with his house in 2016.
“Today, Brian is the most severely wounded Airman to survive any war.”
Got a link on that fraud claim?
Steve, a citation, please. Thanks!
Found it, not fraud but NBC News said he has a “questionable news past”. Basically linked sites with some clickbait headlines trying to get some buzz.
The fundraising page doesn’t mention Kolfage’s most recent business venture, a Facebook page titled Right Wing News and a ring of affiliate sites that frequently trafficked in conspiracy theories. In October, Right Wing News was pulled down by Facebook in a sweep of more than 559 pages that the company said were “using fake accounts… to drive traffic to their websites” or “were ad farms using Facebook to mislead people into thinking that they were forums for legitimate political debate.”
Kolfage also ran Right Wing News’ shuttered affiliate sites including VeteranAF and FreedomDaily, which pushed false conspiracy theories, like ones claiming Hillary Clinton was secretly hiding deadly illnesses and fake voter fraud stories days before the 2016 election.
Coughing-fit Hillary who fainted at a 2016 9/11 ceremony and claimed pneumonia, who fainted in 2012 and got a concussion, who since losing the election keeps breaking bones and failed at hiding a large back brace, couldn’t possibly be hiding an illness and suggesting she could have been was a false conspiracy theory, according to NBC. Which says Brian Kolfage has a “questionable news past”. Got it.
Facebook is always pulling this sort of nonsense. If someone does not post what is agreeable to farcebook, they get suspended and accused of Hatespeech, or being Homophobes, or being Misogynists, while anyone who attacks conservatives, Donald Trump, are praised as heroes… 🙄
I suppose this may be the time for me to state something here that I have stated many times before. When the Muslims were driven from my trbe’s land, maybe one per cent or so said they had no desire to submit to Islam. They were not driven out nor killed.
My statement made many times elsewhere is of a similar vent to what others say about us. So here it is:
Death to Islam.
And today you are “ND”. Curious.
My computer has a mind of its own, or somebody elses, sometimes. It (current or past) hasn’t done this in a long while. It must be the cold weather. Hey what’s a conspiracy theory? Someone said its meant to discredit thought not following someone’s script.
Dude’s name line could be blank and his avatar an asterisk and everyone here would still know and enjoy and learn a thing or three from the source of that stream of written experiential and anecdotal consciousness, Love it.
At this time(3:30 PM EST, Dec 23, 2018)Bryan Kolfage has raised SIXTEEN MILLION DOLLARS!
I forget which lying piece of trash it was that made the comment that the Amazon bonuses of $1,000-$1,500 were ‘Pocket change,’ but I think we need to put a little something in perspective.
Five billion dollars, divided among all US citizens, comes to a little less than $15 per person.
If you want to donate;
Last week, an eight-year old girl died in Border Patrol custody. Had they not been caught, the girl would have died anyway, likely sooner, and been put into an unmarked grave, one of thousands along the border.
Stop this. Build the Wall…
I enjoyed the link. Thank you Chris, for catching a little of modern, and Asimov and Heinlein..just would like to know…cats at home, no pets in strip????
I have been owned by many cats, none now, I can’t stand to see another one pass away…cats are very hard for me to draw, so none yet in dbd.
Need to address that, because I never knew of any farm that had no cats. Horse Farms, Cattle ranches, or wheat or corn, all have cats to deal with mice and rats…
Maybe a tiger, puma….
Even a nice Dawg. 🙂
I know what you mean. But the thought of not having a furry critter or three around …
That feeling I know. the last cat to claim me was a Maine Coone Cat that showed up at the warehouse at about 9 months old. She stayed for a bit more than 16 years at the house until she left us all. It was the mellowest sweetest cat ever, she would follow me around and lie on my feet, And she was the queen of the neighborhood. She defeated all cats until she retired from that. Dogs walked around her after the first time they met her. She used to bring me gifts that I suppose she thought that I needed to eat to survive. The best cat ever, I say.
Maybe a cat in the distance sitting or perched on top of one of the Dawgs just being a cat. No close ups.
GOOD GOD Y’ALL!!
Sorry. I can’t look at the ‘toon without hearing that, maybe this will get it out of my system or at least transplant that earworm from me to y’all,
That was great.
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