Americans, Culture Wars, Friends ← Previous post Next post → Comments Greg B Jul 25 2019 at 12:17 am Proco Harem reference? JTC Jul 25 2019 at 12:18 am A ghostly writer… JTC Jul 25 2019 at 9:18 am Referring both to the lyrics as quoted by Too Tall below, and also to Zed’s denial of authoring What Comes Next. Too Tall Jul 25 2019 at 12:31 am “…as the miller told his tale, That her face at first just ghostly, turned a whiter shade of pale.” In two panels Chris draws the arc of history and the human condition back to Chaucer and the Canterbury Tales. That said, the Proco Harem song was about…sex. Wouldn’t the swimmin’ hole be a better backdrop? Henry Jul 25 2019 at 1:45 am Clearly, the natives are gettin’ restless… WayneM Jul 25 2019 at 12:56 am That peculiar pattern (projecting/predicting behaviour by accusing others of their intended action) is also one of the diagnostic symptoms used to diagnose mental health issues, particularly the Cluster “B” group of personality disorders. I’m not saying leftism is a mental health disorder but where there’s smoke… cb Jul 25 2019 at 8:20 am It’s been said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism_Is_a_Mental_Disorder Pamela Jul 25 2019 at 1:11 am There was an old Twilight Zone episode where the people on a planet were so far apart that they talked via view screens. There was very little physical contact. When they were in contact with other people, they would freak out. The Z Man is right. Technology is creating a dystopian nightmare for the future of Humans. WayneM Jul 25 2019 at 8:04 am Issac Asimov wrote a series of novels about a space-going future where being on different planets caused societies to splinter. One planet was as the Twilight Zone described. They created human-form robots to satisfy their need for the feeling of interaction but actual contact with other humans was almost exclusively through hologram. Until there was a murder… No-one could imagine a human overcoming their repugnance of being in each other’s presence to do a murder. As per Asimov’s Three Rules of Robotics, no robot could harm a human yet the murder was being blamed on a robot… so they reached to the only planet which still had police detectives (Earth) for an investigator. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Naked_Sun azscram Jul 25 2019 at 2:11 pm I read that when I was 12. I thoroughly enjoyed it back then. These days, I think Asimov was on to something. I can’t help but think that another side effect of the digital culture is risk aversion – whether it is physical or emotional. If all of the thrills in life come through a device, then there is little incentive to get out and explore the world, which would involve risks. I recently read an article talking about space tourism. The main theme seemed to be that it’s far too dangerous for anyone except a highly train professional. I get a similar reaction from many people who discover that I ride a motorcycle daily. “It’s too dangerous.” Quite frankly, I’m sick to death of this attitude pervading our culture that we need to be cautious and safe above all else. It is at the root of every movement to suppress individual liberties and impose the nanny state. Those who would take our freedoms play upon the people’s fear. This is my antidote: “Never take counsel of your fears” – Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson Doggo Jul 27 2019 at 5:23 pm As I was reading (and agreeing with) your comment, I too was thinking of the Civil War. Since 2001 we have less than 7000 troops Killed in Action in Iraq & Afghanistan. That is about the same number as the Battle of Gettysburg in 3 DAYS, at a time when the population of the US was only 31 million. Every death is a tragedy to someone, but the electronic media is turning every death in battle into a tragedy to everyone. Lucius Severus Pertinax Jul 25 2019 at 2:39 am I was 12, too!!!! 😉 Too Tall Jul 25 2019 at 4:06 pm I was underachieving at 11. Wotan Jul 25 2019 at 5:45 am “At Runnymede, at Runnymede, What say the reeds at Runnymede? The lithsome reeds that give and take, That bend so far, but never break, They keep the sleepy Thames awake With tales of John at Runnymede. At Runnymede, at Runnymede, Oh, hear the reeds at Runnymede: You musn’t sell, delay, deny, A freeman’s right or liberty. It wakes the stubborn Englishry, We saw’em roused at Runnymede!” – Rudyard Kipling nonncom Jul 25 2019 at 7:35 am Procol Harum’s “Whiter Shade of Pale”….an acid trip as described by Kieth Reid, and put to music by Gary Brooker….when it was released most didn’t even realize what the song was about….some still don’t….Reid denies he was stoned when he wrote it, but…..come on….LOL…. Too Tall Jul 25 2019 at 8:17 am “Reid denies he was stoned when fe wrote it….” Keith Reid: “I might have been smoking when I conceived it, but not when I wrote. It was influenced by books, not drugs.” The dude must have been smoking an entire pharmaceutical factory. Still, the song is eerily accurate as a description of an act of drunken seduction. JTC Jul 25 2019 at 9:28 am “…the song is eerily accurate…” That’s a thread that runs through so much of old rock and why I reference it so often to the contemporary condition. Haven’t figured out if that is in spite of or because of that pervasive pharmaceutical influence. azscram Jul 25 2019 at 2:20 pm How to change your mind… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuhmZSFvhL0 His book is a good read. JTC Jul 25 2019 at 4:52 pm Good link, thank you. Not really a change of mind for me as I very much lean to the latter of my two scenarios; there is really no other way to explain the common thread. Downside is that it tends to run parallel to people who have (or in many cases had) an innate genius. Definitely a connection there, but the risk of personal research is too great for most of us, just as that genius gene is not universally present (quite the opposite I think), and that experimentation for most just adds to the tragedy and destruction in most peoples lives that try it. Jim Smith Jul 25 2019 at 9:09 am Thanks for referencing the Zman blog, Chris. Many more people should be reading it, and now your mention will help. Barbara Skolaut Jul 25 2019 at 9:26 am “I’m not saying leftism is a mental health disorder” – WayneM I’m not as nice a you, so I AM saying it: LEFTISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER. 🙁 JTC Jul 25 2019 at 9:33 am Their behavior of repeating their efforts at communism in spite of multiple failures is in fact the very definition of insanity. cmblake6 Jul 25 2019 at 9:41 am Indeed. kadaka Jul 25 2019 at 10:27 am Communism has just never been properly implemented, it’s like working up the correct load for quarter-inch 3-shot groups at 300 yards, they’ll get it right if they just keep trying. JTC Jul 25 2019 at 10:49 am “…they’ll get it right or die trying.” Edited for accuracy. Kafiroon Jul 25 2019 at 11:39 am Absolutly right. interventor Jul 25 2019 at 6:50 pm “… they’ll get it right, or keep killing till they do.” Old Codger Jul 25 2019 at 12:05 pm Mega Kudos! +10K Old Codger Jul 25 2019 at 12:20 pm Those folks are not INsane, they’re as sane as we are but are (what I prefer to term) OTHERLY sane. Perception truly IS reality. The folks some deem insane merely perceive a somewhat different reality than folks such as us do. Worldviews are like assholes; everybody has one and each is peculiar to the individual. Different groups share similar worldviews thus the formation of such groups. An individual’s worldview modifies and shapes one’s perception and thus modifies one’s REALITY. Hence those on the left truly are OTHERLY sane, JTC Jul 25 2019 at 12:34 pm No, they are legit crazy. And evil. Dangerous combination. Spin Drift Jul 25 2019 at 11:00 am Unfortunately it is not going to go as the Z-man professes. It’s going to be a world wide calamity of Ebola or other retrovirus to thin the herd on both sides. The chosen few will get the vaccine (and you ain’t one of them) so that they can then repopulate the planet. The low-IQ hoards will be bound to be the drones to do the chores and ride heard on the few who survived the virus but will die anyway. The left and right will be consumed only the haves will survive to create the final Utopia for Mother Gaia. Note the lack of info out of Africa from the WHO other than the declaration of a Crisis. The cabal wanted WW3 but this is actually cleaner as its more like a neutron bomb that leaves the infrastructure standing and all the people dead. Got Preps, got guns, got friends, got friends with guns, you are going to need them. Spin Shoot first because at some time there are only going to be foes. Read Aesop cb Jul 25 2019 at 2:07 pm On the mind of many recently: http://ripleyporch.blogspot.com/2019/07/how-this-plague-scenario-would-play-out.html John Jul 25 2019 at 4:52 pm We can survive the merely incompetent by a simple quarantine if nothing else. But we are rapidly approaching a future where the Truly Crazy will get their mitts on the gene engineering machinery and give us something that will exceed our ability to contain it. I just hope we can get our self-driving vehicles up and running before that happens so we can quarantine _everything_ to isolate the bug. After that we’ll just have to deal with a general increase in intelligence, thanks to the excision of the stupid, but the same gross lack of wisdom that caused the problem in the first place. I pray we can avoid the world of perpetual individual isolation in hazmat suits. I have personal experience in social isolation. It’s not fun. interventor Jul 25 2019 at 6:47 pm That’s not how a neutron bomb works. During the Cold War, the most expected scenario was a massive invasion into West Germany by phalanxes of Soviet armor. Germany’s villages are a couple of kilotons apart. Tactical nukes would destroy civilians and the invaders. A neutron bomb releases radiation, but only a small crater. Radiation stopped by concrete, bricks and earth — civilians in bomb shelters and cellars. Radiation that goes thru steel armor like a hot knife thru butter — killing the crews in 24 to 36 hours. Spin Drift Jul 25 2019 at 11:02 am Chris: I just got a message telling me that I’m posting comments to quickly. WTF? Spin Chris Muir Jul 25 2019 at 11:10 am No clue, Spin, not from me. Too Tall Jul 25 2019 at 11:12 am Spin, Limitations from Akismet. It ‘s not you, it is the aggregate of people posting at the same time. Spin Drift Jul 25 2019 at 8:42 pm Thanks, just an industrial size case of paranoia. Spin kadaka Jul 25 2019 at 11:26 am Barr Reinstates Death Federal Penalty, Schedules 5 Executions Mueller flopped, heads should roll, they’re ready to line people up against the wall. Speaking of proggie heads exploding… Kafiroon Jul 25 2019 at 11:48 am Spin: I think that scenario has a good chance also. But the low IQ’s cannot keep any infrastructure running for them. Agriculture at the level they know or are closely trained, but Electricity, Water, Sewer? No chance. I guess I am a pessimist in that. Had too many low IQ’s in my long work life. Pamela Jul 25 2019 at 11:50 am An old friend had a saying. There is either “True Knowledge or True Belief”. The Left refutes Knowledge, and is pushing Belief like a Drug Dealer in the need of more customers since the earlier batches have died or stopped using. Old Codger Jul 25 2019 at 12:35 pm My thanks also, Mr. Muir for the mention of the Z Man blog. It is now on my menu bar right next to DBD. I have to join Damon in wondering if you, oh Bard, are not the author. Chris Muir Jul 25 2019 at 3:47 pm Nope, not me. kadaka Jul 25 2019 at 1:55 pm Want. https://twitter.com/mashable/status/1154430357824917505 Flamethrower drone, uses gasoline. Still legal, for now. Very cool. interventor Jul 25 2019 at 9:52 pm I see AG Barr is restoring the death penalty, after suspension for years. Perhaps, some Democrats should seek nations without an extradition treaty with the USA. JTC Jul 25 2019 at 11:27 pm Apparently, as to bringing them to justice the USA is without an extradition treaty with the USA. Reply Comment Name * Email * Website Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.