Protection for Sam first, and her unborn son. So morphing into a shield or cage that allows her to shoot, followed by catch and return to sender. That lock is projectile one…
I said it yesterday.
Fuck it. It’s on. Authority to release lethal force is Green-lighted.
Advise to Sam and Jo: Aim low. A screaming, bleeding, flip-flopping casualty has a much more powerful impact on the mob than one that just quietly drops dead.
“He never had a chance” “To hell with him. If he wanted a chance, he should have gone somewhere else. No one asked him to come here” The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean.
The Three Laws are based in the same humanistic pablum as the good Doctor’s statement on violence – “Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.” I don’t necessarily disagree with that statement, but the problem comes with the generalization – one I suspect the Doctor intended – that ALL violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. Rather, like Colonel Cooper, I acknowledge that violence begats violence, that it is our duty to ensure that violence begats rather more violence that the originator can deal with. Which is about to happen here, I suspect.
As everyone who has touched “I, Robot” since Asimov has noted, the Three Laws are ultimately just a US Robotics marketing ploy, and no guarantee that any actually robots will actually abide by them even if programmed in. There are such things as glitches, and single event upsets, and malware (the modern versiou of lions and tigers and bears), oh my!
R.A. Heinlein got it right, ‘Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.’
November 15, 2018 at 10:56 am
rickn8or
I was wondering if somebody else was going to mention that.
November 15, 2018 at 7:09 pm
Nancy
I’ve always been a big fan of Robert Heinlein.
November 15, 2018 at 10:12 am
Old Codger
I cannot find a reference but I recall Doc A admitting publicly that his 3 laws of robotics would not work. The U.S DoD is already developing winged myrmidons. The term is UCAV (Unmanned Combat Air Vehicles) and they can already run fully autonomously. Their sensors allow them to detect threats and determine a way to neutralize the threat. The Air Force went totally silent about UCAVs a couple of years back and now won’t say one way or another if they even HAVE UCAVs or not. Imagine how much weight would be saved by not having to provide for a pilot. Imagine how maneuverable an attack fighter could be if its maneuvers weren’t limited to the Gs a human can withstand. Think what havoc an AI controlled (i.e. truly “smart”) missile could wreak on a battlefield. UCAVs can already take off, land and even air-to-air refuel totally autonomously. No reason a stealthy UCAV fighter could not be refueled by a stealthy UCAV tanker and everything coordinated by a UCAV AWACS!
Well that would shoot the whole Star Wars plot to hell and back!
November 15, 2018 at 5:31 pm
Delilah T
Winged Myrmidons? Is that a polite name for Cylon fighter or a Cylon Heavy Raider?
The Navy has already made carrier landings and takeoffs tests with unmanned drone aircraft, a couple of years ago. If these things are going to be used in warfare, the parts need to be programmed to self-destruct to inert and useless, if/when they crash or are shot down.
But – well, why not test them here? They do look kind of like Cylon fighters. They just don’t do that ‘neerroo-neeerrroo’ noise when the scanner light moves left/right/left.
November 15, 2018 at 5:40 pm
Tweak
I have always had issue with the modern alarmism about oncoming weaponized AI. Unmitigated B/S. It’s been here for years already. Pretty much any ASCM is an AI with a warhead. Many “intelligence” research divisions have programs centered around studying missile seeker logic and how to best counter it.
November 15, 2018 at 1:05 pm
Henry
I enjoyed the Foundation series immensely when I was a child. Later, I realized that Asimov was nothing but an unreconstructed statist. He was not only a fan of a single universal government, but actually created *two* levels of Deep State to “step in and save the day” — a Second Foundation, and an immortal nonhuman accountable to no one. Distasteful.
November 15, 2018 at 4:58 am
James McEnanly
I don’t think that Asimov’s laws apply to her. She is a full blown Terminator.
Not quite.
The Terminators were dedicated to a human averse AI that recognized no master.
Jo clearly does, at least in the “family” it defends.
It did occur to me that Jo could defend against this kind of barrage all day. Jo’s very nature means that nearly all incoming kinetic energy can be captured on impact and reused.
Just a minor, but not insignificant, technical point here, Wayne. The Three Laws of Robotics are applicable only to robot/human interactions. Since all available empirical evidence previously gathered from their collective and individual actions indicates that Antifa are not, in fact, human, but rather are animals, the Three Laws do not come into play here….
Technically, Daniel, humans are animals, descended from various hominid species such as Australopithecus and late, Homo whatever groups.
It would probably be more appropriate to term the antifas 5 year old children in adult bodies. Their behavior is tantrum-oriented. A good spanking with Mrs. Imhoff’s paddle which she kept over the blackboard might do them all a world of good. It’s amazing what happens to a tantrum-throwing infant’s mind when two hard smacks are delivered to center gluteal muscle mass.
Oh, BTW, can anyone explain to me how there can actually BE such evil? The only way to deplete this is to remove numbers of them. The way one truly ever wins any war is to kill enough of them for any survivors to decide it’s just not worth continuing.
“Remember: Evil exists because good men don’t kill the government officials committing it.” — Kurt Hofmann.
To Kurt’s sage words (written before there ever WERE such things as Antifa or BLM) I would add “or the leftist thugs”
November 15, 2018 at 3:52 am
Lucius Severus Pertinax
“Any Conflict, once initiated, will Continue until one of the Opposing Sides reaches a Point where it more greatly Fears the Consequences of Continued Conflict than it Fears the Consequences of Defeat.”
They haven’t been punished for what they do, that’s how. There are consequences to bad behavior. They need to be introduced to those consequences.
If a grown man can be arrested and jailed for wife-beating, these overgrown brats can be arrested for assault and battery – the aggravated (elevated) kind.
No one has done that yet.
Waiting for the big NE snowstorm. Mis gatos necesitan comida. I was just doing my daily Spanish lessons on the Duolingo app on my Android smartphone, hit an intermission ad. Which was something for Amazon, that had images of products I’d recently searched for on Amazon, which I do on the PC or laptop. What privacy?
It’s been snowing all day here. The blue jays finally came to my feeding station. Now I have to get peanuts to make them happy. Six cardinals, male and female, three blue jays and a bunch of sparrows and juncos.
Oh! How about a flock of inland gulls descending from on high? They know how to get rid of pests. Remember what they did for the Mormons?
Bird Feeders are some of the best entertainment around, don’t you think? We have cardinals, nuthatches, chickadees, red bellied woodpeckers, tufted titmice and mourning doves. One of the joys of my day is watching titmice dive bomb my feeder.
JJC
November 15, 2018 at 7:41 pm
Nancy
It rarely snows here in North Texas, but I replenished my bird feeder for the local wildlife. We get a lot more bird varieties than we did in California. That’s one of the many, many things I love about my new state.
Of course, their attitude about firearms is great, too. Not to mention we aren’t zoned out the wazoo. In California, if they could have demanded you have a permit to breathe I’m sure they’d have put it into law.
And don’t have any real weapons…just enough rocks, locks, bottles etc. to entice a deadly -and recorded- response, which I am convinced is the plan for them and their BLM etc. counterparts. They are unwitting and unwitted martyrs and offerings to their gods.
I am sure Jo is recording everything that is currently happening. Besides who will believe these pantywaists when they claim “They were attacked by an angry silver entity”?
November 15, 2018 at 7:39 am
Wood
Use Tabasco and sniper fire to pen them into a corner. Pull their masks and take their pictures, and ID if any. Post that info far and wide on the internet. Release in Mexico sans ID.
Amniotic fluid intensifies loud noises. Long strings of fire are bad for the mother’s hearing, Damn damaging to the proto-baby. Better than a beat down, but given a better choice, Sam should hold fire. Enter Jo – untethered.
Fu@# Oregon. And the Justice system there. Hope Strickland takes the entire bunch to task in the Supreme Court. Bypass the Ninth Circus too.
Portland encourages the Homeless to crap on the streets and run sex slave rings and run drugs, and has turned over the duties of actual Police officers to Antifa.
You have a green light.
Warmup? The Kavanaugh debacle was a warmup for the time that a liberal SCOTUS judge has to be replaced, and the mess we are seeing now is a continuation of the warmup for 2020. BTW, I was fascinated at the way the fecal material failed to impact any impeller blades during the last few weeks before the election. Why, it was almost as if the protesters were organized enough to have a boss with authority to shut them down for a time.
I always disagreed with Asimov’s “last refuge” quote. Violence is not the last refuge of the incompetent. It is their first refuge. Violence is a tool. Used in the right circumstances, it is a very effective tool, and sometimes the only one available.
So, the US was run by Incompetents for WW I and WW II? Jesus is my Lord and Savior. And he was known to flip over tables and take a whip to people when it was called for…
Antifa are cultists raised in our corrupted higher education system. That’s why they live communally in isolation, to keep their “faith” pure.
Rounding them up on any pretense and then de-programming them (while awaiting trial, and perhaps with a good dose of Jordan Peterson) would be the fate they fear most, the best deterrent, and the best solution to our problem. Especially since we can expect a goodly number of them to turn on their former comrades.
One aspect of robotics that seems to be missing from the discussion. Why robots? When highly tuned and in full efficient operation, they are uncannily fast at what they do.
Ideally, NO motion is wasted, that detracts from performing the task efficiently.
The solution is to take them captive, remove the masks, get their ID, prints and blood types, photos side and frontal, and post the photos on the internet.
Then a nice cozy jail cell at maybe Beaumont, TX, federal prison until they get to stand trial for vandalism, aggravated assault, aggravated battery, stalking, use of deadly weapons (locks, bottles, etc.) and of course, trespassing and cruelty to animals. (You don’t think Tabasco is really in his pen right now, do you?)
You’d have thought these idiots would have got a clue from the presence of the “dawgs” that they aren’t dealing with just anybody here. They were given plenty of warning and they didn’t take it.
“Dawgs” can sit secluded under a bush for a loooong time, until ordered online. In fact, with a light tarp thrown over them, they could be covered in sand and no one but the owner would know that they are there.
Perhaps the overeducated but woefully unlearned pantifas would do well to recall the other words of Robert A…whilst they enact them.
“Stupidity cannot be cured with money, or through education, or by legislation. Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can’t help being stupid. But stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death, there is no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and without pity.”
– Robert A. Heinlein
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Uh-oh, Now they’ve gone and done it: they’ve pissed off the House Robot.
Good day for the crows.
(Insert theme from ‘Dragnet” here.)
Q.: Can Jo morph into several Jos? On second thought, does she need to do that?
A.: She might be able to divide her mass but each would have less mass.
Protection for Sam first, and her unborn son. So morphing into a shield or cage that allows her to shoot, followed by catch and return to sender. That lock is projectile one…
I said it yesterday.
Fuck it. It’s on. Authority to release lethal force is Green-lighted.
I don’t know about that degree of shape shifting or morphing, think I recall she has to touch someone…DNA detection or something?
Correct response on the part of Sam at this point.
Jo’s turn now…did “she” just crunch that lock? Yikes.
But then Sam’s time to revisit her choice; locked and loaded and don’t wait too long.
sure looks like it – must be a lot of shrapnel there…..
Advise to Sam and Jo: Aim low. A screaming, bleeding, flip-flopping casualty has a much more powerful impact on the mob than one that just quietly drops dead.
Zar Belk!
I’m looking forward to this ….
Where’s our favorite Sabra sniper?
Its a hard, its a hard rain gonna fall!
Hogs gotta eat too, you know. Backhoe and a bulldozer. S3.
It’s 5 am here. Just checked your site…looks like it’s been pulled. Whisky Tango Foxtrot, over? They’re saying T O S nonsense.
“He never had a chance” “To hell with him. If he wanted a chance, he should have gone somewhere else. No one asked him to come here” The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean.
Looks like Jo is about to test the limits of Asimov’s Three Laws of Robotics… specifically the First Law since it doesn’t appear Sam gave any orders.
The Three Laws are based in the same humanistic pablum as the good Doctor’s statement on violence – “Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.” I don’t necessarily disagree with that statement, but the problem comes with the generalization – one I suspect the Doctor intended – that ALL violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. Rather, like Colonel Cooper, I acknowledge that violence begats violence, that it is our duty to ensure that violence begats rather more violence that the originator can deal with. Which is about to happen here, I suspect.
As everyone who has touched “I, Robot” since Asimov has noted, the Three Laws are ultimately just a US Robotics marketing ploy, and no guarantee that any actually robots will actually abide by them even if programmed in. There are such things as glitches, and single event upsets, and malware (the modern versiou of lions and tigers and bears), oh my!
To add to the conversation: https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/isaac-asimovs-laws-of-robotics-are-wrong/
R.A. Heinlein got it right, ‘Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.’
I was wondering if somebody else was going to mention that.
I’ve always been a big fan of Robert Heinlein.
I cannot find a reference but I recall Doc A admitting publicly that his 3 laws of robotics would not work. The U.S DoD is already developing winged myrmidons. The term is UCAV (Unmanned Combat Air Vehicles) and they can already run fully autonomously. Their sensors allow them to detect threats and determine a way to neutralize the threat. The Air Force went totally silent about UCAVs a couple of years back and now won’t say one way or another if they even HAVE UCAVs or not. Imagine how much weight would be saved by not having to provide for a pilot. Imagine how maneuverable an attack fighter could be if its maneuvers weren’t limited to the Gs a human can withstand. Think what havoc an AI controlled (i.e. truly “smart”) missile could wreak on a battlefield. UCAVs can already take off, land and even air-to-air refuel totally autonomously. No reason a stealthy UCAV fighter could not be refueled by a stealthy UCAV tanker and everything coordinated by a UCAV AWACS!
Well that would shoot the whole Star Wars plot to hell and back!
Winged Myrmidons? Is that a polite name for Cylon fighter or a Cylon Heavy Raider?
The Navy has already made carrier landings and takeoffs tests with unmanned drone aircraft, a couple of years ago. If these things are going to be used in warfare, the parts need to be programmed to self-destruct to inert and useless, if/when they crash or are shot down.
But – well, why not test them here? They do look kind of like Cylon fighters. They just don’t do that ‘neerroo-neeerrroo’ noise when the scanner light moves left/right/left.
I have always had issue with the modern alarmism about oncoming weaponized AI. Unmitigated B/S. It’s been here for years already. Pretty much any ASCM is an AI with a warhead. Many “intelligence” research divisions have programs centered around studying missile seeker logic and how to best counter it.
I enjoyed the Foundation series immensely when I was a child. Later, I realized that Asimov was nothing but an unreconstructed statist. He was not only a fan of a single universal government, but actually created *two* levels of Deep State to “step in and save the day” — a Second Foundation, and an immortal nonhuman accountable to no one. Distasteful.
I don’t think that Asimov’s laws apply to her. She is a full blown Terminator.
Not quite.
The Terminators were dedicated to a human averse AI that recognized no master.
Jo clearly does, at least in the “family” it defends.
It did occur to me that Jo could defend against this kind of barrage all day. Jo’s very nature means that nearly all incoming kinetic energy can be captured on impact and reused.
Just a minor, but not insignificant, technical point here, Wayne. The Three Laws of Robotics are applicable only to robot/human interactions. Since all available empirical evidence previously gathered from their collective and individual actions indicates that Antifa are not, in fact, human, but rather are animals, the Three Laws do not come into play here….
Technically, Daniel, humans are animals, descended from various hominid species such as Australopithecus and late, Homo whatever groups.
It would probably be more appropriate to term the antifas 5 year old children in adult bodies. Their behavior is tantrum-oriented. A good spanking with Mrs. Imhoff’s paddle which she kept over the blackboard might do them all a world of good. It’s amazing what happens to a tantrum-throwing infant’s mind when two hard smacks are delivered to center gluteal muscle mass.
I’m not in favor of whacking children, but….
Oh, BTW, can anyone explain to me how there can actually BE such evil? The only way to deplete this is to remove numbers of them. The way one truly ever wins any war is to kill enough of them for any survivors to decide it’s just not worth continuing.
Evil triumphs if good men do nothing. Evil breeds from jealousy, greed, and a desire to hold power over others.
Evil grows when leaders preach hate and lies to their followers. We have seen that for the last ten or twelve years.
As to killing enough of them;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzI3-73ELxw
To Kurt’s sage words (written before there ever WERE such things as Antifa or BLM) I would add “or the leftist thugs”
“Any Conflict, once initiated, will Continue until one of the Opposing Sides reaches a Point where it more greatly Fears the Consequences of Continued Conflict than it Fears the Consequences of Defeat.”
–Lucius Severus Pertinax
Follow the money. Always follow the money.
For the love of it is the root of all evil.
They haven’t been punished for what they do, that’s how. There are consequences to bad behavior. They need to be introduced to those consequences.
If a grown man can be arrested and jailed for wife-beating, these overgrown brats can be arrested for assault and battery – the aggravated (elevated) kind.
No one has done that yet.
That crunching sound was a king-sized can of whoopass being opened… 😀
No. It is the sound of impending Death…
However the Antifa brats have their cellphones recording, might be live-streaming, which limits how much of their capabilities they want revealed.
And where’s that pink MRAP anyway? Didn’t they set it up for remote control by now? That’d be good for crowd dispersal.
It shouldn’t be hard to jam the cell phone signals of the pantyfascists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLMbPrBYlPQ
“It’s Clobberin’ Time !”
And “Flame On” time as well.
Waiting for the big NE snowstorm. Mis gatos necesitan comida. I was just doing my daily Spanish lessons on the Duolingo app on my Android smartphone, hit an intermission ad. Which was something for Amazon, that had images of products I’d recently searched for on Amazon, which I do on the PC or laptop. What privacy?
It’s been snowing all day here. The blue jays finally came to my feeding station. Now I have to get peanuts to make them happy. Six cardinals, male and female, three blue jays and a bunch of sparrows and juncos.
Oh! How about a flock of inland gulls descending from on high? They know how to get rid of pests. Remember what they did for the Mormons?
Bird Feeders are some of the best entertainment around, don’t you think? We have cardinals, nuthatches, chickadees, red bellied woodpeckers, tufted titmice and mourning doves. One of the joys of my day is watching titmice dive bomb my feeder.
JJC
It rarely snows here in North Texas, but I replenished my bird feeder for the local wildlife. We get a lot more bird varieties than we did in California. That’s one of the many, many things I love about my new state.
Of course, their attitude about firearms is great, too. Not to mention we aren’t zoned out the wazoo. In California, if they could have demanded you have a permit to breathe I’m sure they’d have put it into law.
The dead rarely commit additional violent acts…
Sometimes voting Democrat is a crime against humanity.
Damn! Another day of tease!
And they’re throwing their bike locks, too. *smh*
Total lack of understanding of how to use their weapons. Tsk, tsk.
And don’t have any real weapons…just enough rocks, locks, bottles etc. to entice a deadly -and recorded- response, which I am convinced is the plan for them and their BLM etc. counterparts. They are unwitting and unwitted martyrs and offerings to their gods.
I am sure Jo is recording everything that is currently happening. Besides who will believe these pantywaists when they claim “They were attacked by an angry silver entity”?
Use Tabasco and sniper fire to pen them into a corner. Pull their masks and take their pictures, and ID if any. Post that info far and wide on the internet. Release in Mexico sans ID.
Cry “Havoc!!” and let loose the ROBOT of war…
I used to not be in favor of spanking kids for intentionally misbehaving… until now.
This ravening horde of scarecrows need a lesson… from the crows… big crows…
As Scooby would say, rut roh!
Astro. Then Scoob.
Jo, you are cleared hot. Over.
Amniotic fluid intensifies loud noises. Long strings of fire are bad for the mother’s hearing, Damn damaging to the proto-baby. Better than a beat down, but given a better choice, Sam should hold fire. Enter Jo – untethered.
Michael Strickland, Portland, Oregon:
https://www.oregonfirearms.org/vendetta
Fu@# Oregon. And the Justice system there. Hope Strickland takes the entire bunch to task in the Supreme Court. Bypass the Ninth Circus too.
Portland encourages the Homeless to crap on the streets and run sex slave rings and run drugs, and has turned over the duties of actual Police officers to Antifa.
Nuke it from Orbit.
You have a green light.
Warmup? The Kavanaugh debacle was a warmup for the time that a liberal SCOTUS judge has to be replaced, and the mess we are seeing now is a continuation of the warmup for 2020. BTW, I was fascinated at the way the fecal material failed to impact any impeller blades during the last few weeks before the election. Why, it was almost as if the protesters were organized enough to have a boss with authority to shut them down for a time.
They’ll be back out when the Florida and Georgia Governors and the Florida Senator’s races come out in favor of the GOP.
“I’ma riot!”
I wish the reverse were true, but for better or worse we don’t riot even when serious shit is stolen from us.
So if it goes Gillum, I’m outta here after 60 years.
I’ve been waiting to write this for a year now: “My Pantifas in a wad!”
Spin
Oh the humanity!
In the immortal words of Emmett in “Silverado”
I always disagreed with Asimov’s “last refuge” quote. Violence is not the last refuge of the incompetent. It is their first refuge. Violence is a tool. Used in the right circumstances, it is a very effective tool, and sometimes the only one available.
So, the US was run by Incompetents for WW I and WW II? Jesus is my Lord and Savior. And he was known to flip over tables and take a whip to people when it was called for…
As I said, sometimes violence is the only tool available.
“Sometimes voting Democrat is a crime against humanity.”
Sometimes?
Antifa are cultists raised in our corrupted higher education system. That’s why they live communally in isolation, to keep their “faith” pure.
Rounding them up on any pretense and then de-programming them (while awaiting trial, and perhaps with a good dose of Jordan Peterson) would be the fate they fear most, the best deterrent, and the best solution to our problem. Especially since we can expect a goodly number of them to turn on their former comrades.
One aspect of robotics that seems to be missing from the discussion. Why robots? When highly tuned and in full efficient operation, they are uncannily fast at what they do.
Ideally, NO motion is wasted, that detracts from performing the task efficiently.
The solution is to take them captive, remove the masks, get their ID, prints and blood types, photos side and frontal, and post the photos on the internet.
Then a nice cozy jail cell at maybe Beaumont, TX, federal prison until they get to stand trial for vandalism, aggravated assault, aggravated battery, stalking, use of deadly weapons (locks, bottles, etc.) and of course, trespassing and cruelty to animals. (You don’t think Tabasco is really in his pen right now, do you?)
You’d have thought these idiots would have got a clue from the presence of the “dawgs” that they aren’t dealing with just anybody here. They were given plenty of warning and they didn’t take it.
Too bad for them.
“Dawgs” can sit secluded under a bush for a loooong time, until ordered online. In fact, with a light tarp thrown over them, they could be covered in sand and no one but the owner would know that they are there.
Imagine that rising up from the sand next to you.
Perhaps the overeducated but woefully unlearned pantifas would do well to recall the other words of Robert A…whilst they enact them.
“Stupidity cannot be cured with money, or through education, or by legislation. Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can’t help being stupid. But stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death, there is no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and without pity.”
– Robert A. Heinlein