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  • May 7, 2016 at 8:52 pm

    There’s your Trump-branded wall, H_B. 🙂

    And nothing wrong with that; like I said in that prior comment, “if it’s yours, or if you built it…”

    If a wall gets built, nobody nowhere nohow can say The Donald didn’t build it.

    • May 7, 2016 at 10:09 pm

      Step 1: Build the wall around D.C.
      Step 2: Fill it with water.

      • May 7, 2016 at 11:27 pm

        It will need a lid. Scum floats.

      • May 8, 2016 at 7:28 am

        It was originally a swamp, just let it fill naturally. Maybe add a few ‘gators, if they can stomach it.

        Zar Belk!

      • May 8, 2016 at 8:15 am
        Old Codger

        Gator’ll eat damned near anything.

      • May 8, 2016 at 7:45 am


    • May 8, 2016 at 11:34 am

      /Dundee “Thaht’s naht ah Trump woull. Theehs is ah Trump woull”

      I’m loving the memes coming out of this campaign. Have you heard the response to the “Taco bowl tweet”, yet? “Even Trump’s Mexican food has a wall around it!”

      Then there’s this: Troll Level: Emperor.

    • May 8, 2016 at 12:25 pm

      Aaaand I’m a twit who posted a comment with two links in it, again, and now awaiting moderation…

  • May 7, 2016 at 8:53 pm

    Well, Boingo IS an illegal alien…..

    And the first two panels actually have a chance of happening. I hope someone has a camera to film Boingo’s Stroke

  • May 7, 2016 at 8:58 pm

    If someone does build the 100 foot wall surrounding DC, please make the wall waterproof… It will take a few years for the Potomac to flush DC like a toilet…

  • May 7, 2016 at 9:06 pm

    To bad “YOU’RE FIRED” didn’t happen in 2008.

    • May 8, 2016 at 3:57 am

      Really dumb statement.

    • May 8, 2016 at 8:13 am

      Just how drunk were you?

    • May 8, 2016 at 10:53 am

      That would be a bingo.

      • May 8, 2016 at 7:39 pm

        Everyone would have one and been better off

  • May 7, 2016 at 9:56 pm
    Delilah T.


  • May 7, 2016 at 10:08 pm

    17 down, one to go:
    “Just who do you think put him over the top?”

    Cruz for SCOTUS 2017!

    • May 7, 2016 at 11:00 pm
      Delilah T.

      Mychal makes some very good points.

      The other question, one which no one is really asking is this: Who has who by the short hairs? Does shrillary have something on bodaprez? Or does Jarett have something on her? Someone has something on someone, and I”m just trying to sort it out.

      • May 8, 2016 at 11:33 am

        Alternate option is that they were both bought out by the same Saudi / Russian / Chinese money, and who-ever holds those purse strings is telling both of them to play nice.

  • May 7, 2016 at 10:08 pm

    The DC Metro system is in continuous emergency mode. A six month shut down is recommended. Which would do more to shut down government than Cruz ever did. DC, the only place the constitution gives the federal government almost complete authority and they screw that up.

    • May 8, 2016 at 7:37 am

      There’s an object lesson in there, somewhere………

    • May 8, 2016 at 9:09 am

      The DC Metro (technically the Washington Metropolitan Area Transportation Authority) answers to, and gets unreliable funding from, the federal government, the District government, the Maryland government, and the Virginia government. There are competing priorities and amounts of money available. In addition there are the usual not in my back yard and environmental impact enemies to construction and routing.

      That said, with the exception of the underground stations which are vaulted and vertically larger than (almost?) any other, the system was built on the cheap, and its sins are catching up with it.

      I’m not trying to shield Metro or the feds, but there is a lot of blame to go around.

      • May 8, 2016 at 7:10 pm

        Exactly, the federal city depends upon the Metro, but can’t even fund and coordinate this small but important thing.

  • May 7, 2016 at 11:04 pm

    It occurs to me that if The One flew commercial instead of AF 1, considering his various “identities” over the years (Indonesian exchange student, etc.), E-Verify would run him, total up all the names that come up, and set off enough alarms to put TSA into full-blown panic mode.

    clear ether


    • May 8, 2016 at 10:55 am

      That would be a very good thing!

  • May 8, 2016 at 12:10 am

    Building the wall will take time. Enough time that even those in the House and Senate will notice. That means they will all go home. Then, we will have all those politician#(*&$#^$# back HERE! NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

    • May 8, 2016 at 2:47 am

      The Berlin Wall started as concertina wire spread along the entire perimeter overnight; that held long enough for slave labor (there’s no other kind under communism) to start stacking bricks. Eventually those were replaced by the concrete sections we saw dismantled in 1989.

  • May 8, 2016 at 12:41 am

    Trump makes a solid early decision:

    Good job, DT; .it’s those motherfuckers we’re trying to get rid of, and the veep has to be somebody that could step in and kick ass…shit we’re building walls here, not mending fences!

  • May 8, 2016 at 12:45 am

    Donald or Shrillary, either way, we’re hosed…. Time to work on beans, Boolits and Band-Aids….

  • May 8, 2016 at 1:11 am

    Absolutely love the O-pout-face in the second panel – priceless.

    It’d be great to make those calls to him too. Jam the whitehouse phone system with ’em….

  • May 8, 2016 at 3:07 am
    Emily Disraeli

    NO, Snake Plissken

  • May 8, 2016 at 3:31 am
    Bill G

    Beautiful work on Damon’s part … it was YUGE!

  • May 8, 2016 at 6:08 am
    Bill G

    There’s one type of wall the left likes.
    The kind Che liked, and used, so much.

  • May 8, 2016 at 7:37 am

    Love the first two panels. As the Beatles said “Let it Be!”

    Zar Belk!

    Master Diver

  • May 8, 2016 at 7:56 am
    Shooter 2.3

    I don’t think a real wall will help unless we give up the Rio Grande and it’s water source. The ranchers and the cities along the border can’t do that. More importantly if we get rid of the welfare system as it stands now, we can eliminate the need for foreign labor. There won’t be any sense of a illegal coming into this country if there are no jobs available or handouts. What might happens is we get our military out of foreign affairs and put them on the border, doing the job they are meant to do.

    • May 8, 2016 at 11:14 am

      Too bloody right. That, I think, would work.

    • May 8, 2016 at 11:58 am

      Actually, the most effective thing is going to be prosecuting businesses that employ illegal labor. That plus allowing police to ask someone if they’re in the country legally and applying the old Cold War “Espionage” act, requiring an affidavit and a fee to send money to Cuba, to Mexico and Central America should be all that’s actually required. If there’s risk of being arrested, no way to effectively send money home, and few jobs on offer to begin with, then illegals are going to go elsewhere.

      If you’ve got more money going to American worker’s pockets rather than bleeding away to fund the Mexican and Central American governments, that’s going to help with the Entitlement situation. Of more importance though, I think would be reducing Corporate Taxes and Regulations (which Trump has also pledged to tackle). That would not only bring companies back to the US (Trump doesn’t even need to enact Tariffs, just the threat is Stick enough next to the aforementioned Carrot) it could set off a change in mindset. I am eagerly hoping for a 1980s-style Optimism Boom.

      Remember the ’80s? The sense that things were going to get better? That businesses were going to succeed again? “Yuppies”? The eagerness with which people tried to Get Rich? If that happens, then being on Public Assistance stops being “acceptable” and becomes the mark of a Loser. You can’t just legislate the Entitlement Mentality away, but you can shame people away from it.

      If some network starts airing a rendition of Robin Leech’s Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, I’d say it’s time to start looking at safely tackling Entitlement Reform.

      • May 8, 2016 at 2:21 pm

        A return to a “morning in America” mentality would indeed be awesome, but while DT can/will get a lot done to regain the confidence of business, he ain’t no Reagan whose magic was key to the perception becomes reality that RR inspired in the people of America as a whole.

        Still, Trumps keynote of immigration control including policing illegals and controlling wealth outflow would go far in attaining much of what you suggest in terms of entitlement reform, and of course his business acumen dictates educating politicians and people to the idiocy of corporate taxation (whose profits are taxed as pass-through to shareholders) and over-regulating business to the point of driving them overseas or out of business altogether.

        Ironically, what you indicate as the most effective tool in accomplishing much of this is itself an additional and onerous layer of regulation, attempting to assign policing and controlling immigration to business and threatening dramatic consequences for doing so ineffectively, an albatross that would undo much of the good accomplished by the initiatives above.

        No, the job of preventing and prosecuting illegal immigration, its impact on the public coffers, and all of the ancillary harm it does to the nation as a whole, rests where it should, with the various levels of government enforcement who love to sluff off their actual jobs as shooter 2.3 rightly says, while assuming roles and control of the legal private sector where they have no damn business interfering. All business needs to do is require and Social Security information that gives gov agencies all the information they need to do their jobs.

      • May 8, 2016 at 2:42 pm

        I don’t see how it requires a new layer of regulation. Every job I’ve ever had I’ve had to prove my citizenship; usually by presenting several forms of ID (or just your passport). Every business has to do that. I expect enforcement to come from neighbors, competitors, or customers dropping dimes on violators. Again, it doesn’t have to be all of them – just enough to get in the news and scare the rest of them.

      • May 8, 2016 at 4:54 pm

        “I don’t see how…” I know, and that’s the rub.

        I wasn’t being critical of your thoughts, just commenting on the irony of you rightfully pointing out how biz is being regulated out of profitability or even existence, then unknowingly advocating the addition of more regulation backed by severe penalty and color of law.

        It’s the same thing I see when folks push for the excellent (but never even under Reagan seriously considered) idea of a fair flat tax. Most often it’s presented as a consumption tax (sales tax) collected, maintained, and remitted by, you guessed it, business…talk about layers of regulation, how the fuck is it my job to be tax collector for the fedgov when we are already saddled with the nightmare of administering state sales tax (which itself is unjust and should/would be eliminated by a fair/flat.

        So yes indeed, in a world of electronic fraud, fake credentials, identity theft, etc. etc. etc. trying to vet (see oliver Heaviside’s comment about e-verify downthread) potentially deceptive employees, the very thought or mention of laying that responsibility on erstwhile job providers under threat of criminal law is a huge demotivator and distraction. The real business of business is business, and job creation is a desireable side effect, so why on earth would we want to make it more difficult, more expensive, more frightening for any person or entity to consider?

        This lack of understanding is not intentional, but I’m guessing that you have not faced the monumental hurdles of operating and administering a business; you indicate that your jobs have been on the productive end and not the administrative end; that’s just as it should be for you and just as it should be as much as possible for business owners and operators who could then spend their time and effort being productive too, compensating their employees to be even more productive, and less on keeping track of things that are not, or should not be, their responsibility.

        Sorry for the rant, but yeah, having dealt with and seen the smothering effects of gov regulation from mom&pop, mid-level production management, and corporate administration, it’s a major and long-standing pet peeve of mine.

      • May 8, 2016 at 5:17 pm

        Again, what is being done now for confirmation of eligibility should be fine; rather than adding yet-more. While fabricated documents can be obtained, it requires a non-trivial skillset and yet-more expense for what is nominally someone looking for slave-wage employment. Only a fraction are going to get them; if it was easy, all illegals would already have fake Green Cards and be walking around without concern about ICE.

        The goal isn’t to make it functionally impossible, it’s to make it pointlessly unprofitable for the border-jumper. So far as I can tell, just enforcement of current laws (plus application of the law affecting Cuba to Mexico until they fork over the cost of the Wall) is all that’s required.

        I agree that more regulation would be bad, and unburdening businesses of many of the “Mother May I” government restrictions is essential (so glad Trump has talked about this). My grandmother founded and still runs a retirement home. She’s watched the regulatory burden balloon until they have to have several full-time people just to keep the red-tape flowing. There are even things they could do to speed up the process, but can’t use because of HIPAA rules.

        I know about that burden. But that burden should be reduced with a Trump administration (much of it coming from Executive direction to the relevant agencies, rather than having to go through Congress for a new law). With that weight off, I don’t see it being difficult to confirm someone’s Social Security and Driver’s License number (or Passport Number) is legitimate. Something they’re doing already.

        I take your point about regulation, I just don’t think it applies in this application. (I somehow get the impression we’re talking past each other, but I’m not sure how.)

      • May 8, 2016 at 5:23 pm

        “applies in this application”? God I hate not having an edit button sometimes…

      • May 8, 2016 at 7:57 pm

        Not so much talking past as just a failyhhh to communicate based on dissimilar experiences I think; do take the time to read the post at oliver’s link for an idea of the catch22 shit for biz.

  • May 8, 2016 at 8:51 am

    Politicians have been trying to make a “Green Zone” out of DC for decades and failing because they keep trying to be Politically Correct about it. They would probably love it if Trump did build a wall around it complete with concertina, tank traps, machine gun towers and XE (or what ever they call Blackwater these days) doing whole body pat downs on anybody who entered their “Safe Zone”. They could “Feel Safe” in their private little utopia, wouldn’t be bothered by us peasants and they could blame it on him while feigning outrage.

    It would actually be a great idea, I would even go so far as to give them 50 square miles instead of 10. Give them a year or two to get settled then we could turn off the water and sewage and not let them out.

  • May 8, 2016 at 10:50 am
    Bruce Wood

    I labeled the Federal(Feral) government a foreign government years ago. It is as foreign to the Constitution as Red China, or France for that matter.


  • May 8, 2016 at 12:58 pm
    michael woodard

    hilarious. best one in awhile.

  • May 8, 2016 at 1:49 pm

    Love it Chris.

    Make it so.

  • May 8, 2016 at 2:13 pm
    Oliver Heaviside

    Based i=on a recent column by John Derbyshire, E-Verify is not what we were told it was.

    Oh well.

    As for a 100-foot wall, all that will do is increase production of 101-foot ladders. What we need are border agents, humans, plus more and better technology. This will also deal with visa-overstay problems, which is as big or bigger problem that those crossing the Rio Grande are.

  • May 8, 2016 at 4:43 pm

    Drawbridge. Murder Holes. Nice spots for the boiling oil, followed by flaming arrows. Fire hoses to clean things out.

    Wonder what George, Thomas, Benjamin, John, Samuel and all the rest would think if they saw what we’ve become. Would they have added a few extras to the rules?

  • May 8, 2016 at 5:19 pm

    “Look, just run my ID again, Mr. Trum–”
    “E-verify still says no!”

    I love it!

    “Kenya feel me now?”

  • May 8, 2016 at 8:28 pm

    Make Mexico Great Again.
    Give Mexico Back Its Mexicans.

    I wrote a lot more, but it would not post. So I distilled the legal points.
    🙂 There is law and fact somewhere.

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