Day By Day


  • The trick is to add the hot sauce and salt to the oil before popping.

    • MasterDiver

      The fighter pilots at the 15th FW(VTANG) call them AFTERBURNERS!

      Zar Belk!

      • Christopher Cole

        What birds does 15 FW fly? Maybe I worked on the type when I was active duty.

        Christopher Cole, TSgt USAF Ret.

        • Old Codger

          F-22 Raptor

  • Pete231

    A tablespoon of Carolina Reaper sauce in the oil will light up the ol’ taste buds. Then, ladle on the clarified butter and crack open a tall frosty one…..

  • WayneM

    So many ways to pop the corn…

    • jackdeth72

      Tabasco always enjoys a warm, tasty snack.

  • jackdeth72


    How long do they have to be nuked before sprouting sixth fingers, or a second head from their shoulders?

    • eon

      A few days with what ‘Toly is using. Now, with the billboards on a Burke-class DDG or the rotating antenna on an E-3, more like a two-second zorch.

      One more reason that playing “tag” with either one is not a good idea. Red Chinese and Iranian fighter jocks please note.

      clear ether


      • Merle

        Or one pulse from the mega watt power AN/SPS-48G air search radar! πŸ™‚

        • jackdeth72

          Or falling asleep in front of a C-141’s Active Radar while the plane is in Phase Dock for Isochronal Inspection and Maintenance.

      • jackdeth72

        Gotta love the Navy’s Airedale Greyhounds and E-3s, eon!

        Can have a proper Carrier War without them.

      • On the BUFF, I had control of 5 megawatts concentrated via a 60″ parabolic, beamwidth less than 3 degrees. Totally aimable from +5 degrees up-elevation to 30 down and 290 degree forward sector (tail gunner had the rear sector handled with his radar). With Fast Sector Scan, I could paint the target with a 5 sweeps per 3 seconds. Good Radar Navigators could play in X-Band and put the hurt on most interceptor RSOs up until about 1975 or so, when digital frequency agility became the norm for the hunter aircraft.


    This brings back to mind my solution for two problems facing this country.
    Take all the spent Nuclear waste from all the reactor storage facilities, truck it to the Southern border and bury it there.
    It may not stop the border jumpers, but it will make them much easier to find, glowing in the dark like they will.

    • MasterDiver

      Similar to a simple way to dear with nuclear waste proposed by Jerry Pournelle. Pick a nice, deep crater at the Nevada Test Site, move all the wast into it. Surround it a mile out with a 20-foot high, chain link fence. Post signs in every major language, and easily understood graphics that say “If you enter here, you will die”. Check every month for bodies, and have pre-drafted death certificates showing Cause of Death:Suicide.

      Zar Belk!

    • Sendarius

      Of course, human flesh doesn’t glow when hit with sufficient ionising radiation – it just dies.

      Still, given the advances in tools for tracking radiation, dusting the surface soil that the illegals must cross will make it easy to track them.

  • Bill G

    Popcorn time for the watchers, and ‘Toly-style popcorn in the field…

  • Bill G

    Is anyone else humming ‘Pop Goes The Weasel’?

    • Pamela

      groan πŸ˜‰

  • eon

    Orville Redenbacher, anyone?

    clear ether


    • Kafiroon

      A few years ago a friends car burned completely. In the trunk, there survived a glass Ball jar. Filled with Orville’s popcorn. Un-Popped.

  • GWB

    I was read in on a program experimenting with this several years ago. It was very interesting. It’s a very handy crowd control device, and it works wonders as a suppression tool as well. Not sure how well it’s going to work from a chopper in open terrain – likely to just make them scatter (and, consequently, harder to round up). Unless ‘Toly has learned to herd with that thing. πŸ™‚

    • PaulS

      Might have the dogs keeping the herd together. πŸ™‚

    • Larry

      objective always defines the tactics. you can use it in a variety of ways.

    • Steve

      Just hope none of the Mexicans are armed, because beamer range is pretty comparable to rifle range, and a chopper is not a hard target.

      • GWB

        It’s very hard to shoot back. In the test I witnessed the poor guy trying to pop into the window to take a shot never could get one off. Hence, the “works wonders as a suppression tool”.

  • Deplorable Jon

    “Put on the Wagner!!!”

  • Spin Drift

    Now when I go into a fancy restaurant and order a fine steak, its rare, medium or ‘Toly. Or as the polar bear said on finding some Eskimos in an igloo, crunchy on the outside,with a warm chewy center.

    Ring the dinner bell

  • Doc Epador

    It’ll stir up any animal life in its path as well. If there are any Aficanized bees or rattlers nearby…

  • Doc Epador

    My original intention was to make a comment about the beauty of rippling cotton waves over bountiful curves above real boots, makes me wanna stand up and salute, hmmmm.

    • Pamela

      Sweetie you can do whatever you want in the privacy of your home.

    • Personally, I prefer men in tight pants. But I get the sentiment.

      • Pamela

        I have a thing for men with great hands. Strong hands. Calluses and scars are ok.

      • ….warm, soft lips….

        • Pamela

          6’4″ 275, strong enough to pick you up and up against the wall
          add warm soft lips and the right amount of tongue
          I better stop now…

          • Pamela

            Strange and interesting what excites us…

        • JTC

          275 (almost), check.
          Warm and soft all over, check.
          Callouses and scars, check.
          Tight pants, check.
          Strong enough to put you against the wall and off your feet…well, that mostly depends on you, but let’s say check.

          Five out of seven? Yeah, I know…this ain’t horseshoes. πŸ™

    • Pamela

      So Doc, in an alternate time stream, who’s boots would you want parked under your bed…

  • Spin Drift

    All humor aside, O’Susannah and his bumbling circus has to be held accountable to the Rule of Law. If it is made any plainer to the dirt people that the law doesn’t apply to the sky people, the dirt people are not going to go silently into that good night. At this point of reckoning the dirt people will have nothing left to lose. Unfortunately the dirt people are slow to anger but when roused to a cause and that cause is them and their belief in the mode and manner of governance created eleven score and 19 years ago, they are grit to the handle.

    It will go badly as the sky people round up their dirt people who think they are sky people to repel the true dirt people. Pass the popcorn and the ammunition this is going to get good.

    True Dirt
    “Fill your hands you sons a bitches” The Duke.

      • JTC

        Then as now.

        Fake issues, lies, and genocide for the dirt folks as pretext for power, control, and money for the sky people.

        Then the left occupied gov. Now it occupies shadow gov.

        Then as now, they will never accept or allow secession, as that would mean death to their elite selves and masters. But separation will come. There can be no co-existence. It will be a fight to the death, virtual and literal.

        Be prepared.

  • JTC

    I’m all for zapping some invaders (not all Mexican these days what with all the south americans and worse muzzies flooding into mexico to ooze in that way to beat the ban)…supposedly the mex prez has arranged to make it easier for them to fly in and walk over.

    And that also increases concerns and likelihood of coyotes armed with Obama’s walked-in guns that can take out a mini-chopper pretty easily…careful, ‘Toly.

    • Old Codger

      I seem to recall one of the Mexican cartels downing a Mexican Army Blackhawk helicopter with a Barrett some time back. I suspect it was a lucky shot as you would have to hit a critical part to do that. You wouldn’t need a Barrett to take down a small, recip-power helo like the one they have at the DD. Any .30 cal rifle should go right through the plexi surrounding th cockpit. The gear box should be quite vulnerable to small arms fire. But are the coyotes generally good enough shots to do that?

      • JTC

        More a matter of spray ‘n pray…for ‘Toly to be close enough for his emitter to work he’ll also be in easy range of AR’s and AK’s so conveniently supplied to coyotes smuggling dope and people by the Zero.

        In which case emptying 30-rd mags of small but fast pellets in the general direction of the little whirly has an excellent chance of perforating something critical.

        As someone said it might be better to loose the dawgs nearby after equipping them with panels and plate. The shock of that, let alone the waves, would be a major deterrent…talk about popcorn-worthy entertainment value.

        • PaulS

          “perforating something critical.”

          Yeah, about any part of the pilot would do, makes concentrating on the critical tasks at hand very difficult.
          “Pain is scary.” – Jayne

          • JTC

            Yeah, pink and squishy is at the top of that list, but just about any moving part on that little eggbeater could cause as they say, “catastrophic failure” if compromised by projectile.

  • Bill M

    Wonder if there are any refurbished MI-24 Hinds about for ‘Toly to play with down on the South 40.

    • Deplorable B Woodman


    • Pamela

      That looks like a party waiting to happen…

  • I like Chili-lime powder on popcorn. Goes well with a malt-liquor Margarita.

    • Pamela

      Margarita rocks, no salt, triple shot of an anejo tequila

    • Butter and (sparingly) salt. Apples. A good book. Tuscan white wine.

    • Deplorable B Woodman

      A large pot of tea (green or jasmine, loose leaf, brewed 2 – 2 1/2 minutes), on a warmer. A light blanket. Maybe someone to snuggle with, IF they enjoy silence. Several good books (depending on mood at the time). A pad of paper & pen/pencil for extraneous thoughts.

    • Pamela

      Please tell me that rat bastard asshat is gone

        • Pamela

          That demon spawn will meet his end being drowned in a vat of poison or hoisted on the end of a rather pointy pole.
          Blowing him up is too humane.

          • silvergreycat

            Richard Fernandez adds…*If Assad is overthrown it must be for urgent strategic reasons; undertaken the survival of the West and incidentally but not inconsequentially, for the salvation of the Syrians. It must be done with Congressional approval only after a national consensus to undertake it has been forged. In other words it must be worth the risk. Otherwise it will be one of those projects where you just know that someone is going to be left holding the bag.

            ***The football gag is a joke that has been featured many times in Charles M. Schulz’s comic strip, Peanuts. There have been several variations on the joke over the years. The football gag has also been included in some Peanuts animated television specials.

            The characters involved in the gag are Charlie Brown and Lucy van Pelt. Lucy tells Charlie Brown that she will hold a football while he kicks it. Charlie Brown usually refuses to kick it at first, not trusting Lucy. Lucy then says something to persuade Charlie Brown to trust her. Charlie Brown runs up to kick the ball, but at the very last second before he can kick it, Lucy removes the ball and Charlie Brown flies into the air, before falling down and hurting himself. The gag usually ends with Lucy pointing out to Charlie Brown that he should not have trusted her.***

            In the face of the genuine clamor to “do something” the question is: do you kick the football?*

    • Aaaannd it now appears that Vlad Putin is not QUITE so interested in kicking the anthill, after all. Are we in those ‘interesting times’ now?

      Hot, buttered popcorn (real butter), some salt, apples, cheap Tuscan white wine and a good book, one with sexy men since Zed is already taken (whine).

  • silvergreycat

    Michael Ledeen adds…*Lashing out at Assad isn’t nearly good enough. After all, what strategic objective would we accomplish by smashing, even removing, Assad? The Iranian and Russian fighters would still be there, as would the Islamist forces. The demands on our military would dramatically expand. We do not want to occupy a significant land mass in what used to be called Syria, nor do we seem to have sorted out what we want to do with the Turks and the Kurds.*

  • Mort

    Amazing! the change in attitude of the MSM this
    morning, they all see President Trump in a new
    light…hard to claim collusion with Putin now.

    After 8 years of feckless pandering by the ‘Dear
    Leader’, our enemies, and our allies both see
    the US as they have known it since WWII.

    • No, but the Russians were warned about the strike ahead of time. I see differing opinions about the strike elsewhere, but in his press conference with King Abdullah of Jordan earlier this week, Pres. Trump did mention Iran and North Korea.

      Perhaps we can call this a warning shot.

      As I understood the news report last night, the strike was aimed at destroying the cache of nerve agent sarin, which was used several days ago against a Syrian village.

  • JSStryker

    No new comic for Friday, did I miss Chris saying he wouldn’t post one today?

    • I think his computer is in the shop. (Sigh) Why do electronic thingies die so soon? I need a new computer. Mine is practically an antique.

      • JSStryker

        Mine is a 2010 model, it is holding up but it could do with a update.

      • JIMV

        I’m a PC sucker…every time one of our electronic’s stores goes under I buy a new laptop for half price. I’ve got a Toshiba i7 laptop in a box under a bed waiting for the old (2012) Toshiba i5 machine I am typing on…

        • Shonkin

          I have a Toshiba laptop I bought a few years ago (2013?). It was a cheapie, but it ran well on Windows 7. I made the supreme mistake of taking the free “upgrade” to Windows 10. Pop went the weasel. It’s worthless now. Every time a W10 update comes along it s#!ts the bed and forgets who it is. I took all my files off it and stuck it in the closet. Unless someone I trust wants it for parts I’ll smash the hard drive and leave the rest for the garbage man.

          • epador

            When my Windows 7 is no longer functional you won’t have to pry my PC’s from my cold dead hands, but I’ll probably just dig out my old iMac SE and spin up OS 9 web browsers and word processing for fun.

            For art, that’s a different thing. I still have palettes, acrylics, film cameras, but I wish I hadn’t given my dark room equipment away.

          • chuckR

            Shonkin – just buy a new disk drive and do a clean install of W7. I am responsible for a few W7 systems and can get back to where I need to be in a morning. I usually archive the old disk drive just in case I forgot to pull something off it. MS hasn’t yet figured out how to screw up the actual hardware with an OS – yet – so new drive = new computer.

          • Bob in Houston-Vast Right Wing Basket of Deplorable!

            Oh crap, please don’t chunk it! My current lappie is an old Asus 10″ netbook barely running Win 7 starter and anything I could reload Win 7 Pro or some flavor of Linux on would be a huge step up, I’ve even got a spare drive laying around. You don’t know me from Adam but Chris might put it a good word for me when he pops back up if you wanted to chunk it my way.

          • Old Codger

            Shonkin, as chuckR suggested, buy a new drive, then for a couple of bux on ebay you can get a little adapter to turn your old drive into a USB drive (I got a couple including cute little aluminum hard cases) for next to nothing. I had an ASUS laptop with a crappy DC jack (it was a design flaw) and every time the jack crapped out, I’d buy a decent used one and swap in the hard drive. That is effectively a brain transplant. I wound up with 3 half gig drives which I converted to USB. Convenient for transporting files. Then my daughter bought her old daddy a fekking THREE TERABYTE USB flash drive for Christmas. I use the little half giggers to send ebooks to my daughter in law. Cheap to mail and I pick ’em up when we drive out to see our son and grandkids (and great-grands).

            Depending on what goes wrong with a laptop, you can usually get a used one cheap. The hard drive and RAM are under a 2ndary, easily removed cover so it is child’s play to swap in the drive from the old lapper. Worst case you might have to DL device drivers for video, audio and/or wireless NIC. That would require you to connect to the router with a cat 5 cable in order to DL the NIC driver. Do that first then you can go through your router wirelessly to get the other drivers.

      • Lucius Severus Pertinax

        One would think, in his position, that he would have more than ONE computer πŸ˜‰

        • GWB

          That would require a little more fundraising to be done.

          • JTC

            Offered that, got rebuked.

            Dude is VERY strict about his once-a-year fundraiser. Guess we just have to factor this in when that rolls around in June, each of us an extra Jackson maybe?

    • Gee, I’m still running my trusty 2003 on XP. Sturdy, well-built, functions well. W10 seems to have a lot of flaws that haven’t been ironed out. I’ll wait a while.

      • GWB

        I’m not far behind you, with Vista.

      • Barbara Skolaut

        I’d still have XP. but I need to match my home computer to what work has. On the bright side, the techies will help me with my home computer problems/questions whenever they’re not busy with actual work-work. (And at least one is available 24/7.)

      • JIMV

        I have 3 i5 windows 7 laptops, one I use daily, one I have hard wired into my network and one I use only for high resolution music (54GB so far). The i7 runs windows 7, an operating system I hate which is why I keep fixing the old machine I am typing on now…

        • JTC

          I detest the crap that comes with the W10 that is on my year-old HP laptop. Dude at the store said I am not alone, and a threatened revolt from business users is why MS has promised to continue support of W7 forever. Myself, I can barely function the thing let alone switch OS, but if this thing will hurry up and die I will replace it with something with 7…which I also don’t know shit about other than the old ‘puter that used it was functional and idiot-proof until it finally like Bo Jangles dog, up and died.

  • This little sub-story has great potential.

  • Spin Drift

    Big picture people is that the Tomahawk strike was not for Russia but for the Chinese. It was done during the meeting with Xi. Just a little message that we will stand up for the other countries in the South China Sea. It also sends a message to them to deal with The Baby Tyrant in North Korea.

    Time to play cowboys and everybody

    • Pamela

      “You may fire when you are ready, Gridley.”

    • Sir, our birds are running straight, hot and normal.

      Thank you, Captain. Pres. Xi, would you like more strawberries and whipped cream?

      • Pamela

        *snicker snort*

    • “Time to play Cowboys and everybody.”
      I am so stealing that.

  • Jess Sain

    Spin Drift: Spot on. Now on to todays news…where’s today’s??? Need the daily fix of DD.

  • JTC

    About $80M worth of T-Hawks plus untold delivery cost…certainly hope there is a message or three there because that’s a million each for those gassed civvies, fuck that. Hard hearted? Damn right, I had about enough of trying to save sand chiggers from themselves over the last 15 years.

    That said, I don’t think the businessman takes this investment lightly, and that there are multiple messages being sent to the wackjobs of the world and a rallying of troops and support from nearby prosperous western leaning govs and economies who want to stay that way.

    • Kafiroon

      Now in a fevered dream, I see the Wisconsin or some what like that, loaded with nuke propulsion and huge excess electrical, packing the newest of air/missile defense, lots of it, the newest shells to extend it’s range and power, add rail guns and lasers. Also anything else that would make it stronger and nastier. Then use that to kick the snot out of anything that needs it within range. Or, nuke it from orbit. it’s the only way to be sure.

    • clayusmcret

      A buddy at work made the comment that we had spent ~$100million bombing the airfield. An exaggeration of course, but I told him that “the comment made by the strike was worth far more than the money spent.”

      Same went for President Reagan’s bombing of Libya. Qaddafi had let terrorists train there, was working on a nuclear program and we had just had the 1986 Berlin discotheque bombing. The comment that Reagan made when he had the military (USAF, USN, USMC) send a missile into Qaddafi’s ceremonial tent (which he had just been using) was quite clear. Qaddafi clearly heard it and stopped supporting terrorism for a while and shut down his nuclear program.

      Let’s see if Assad hears as clearly that “obama is gone.”

    • Pamela

      You forgot that she dresses funny and puts Botox Nancy to shame with the amount of stuff she gets injected and slathered on to look normal.

      • eon

        The Yahoo News comments were hilarious. Yahoo is sort of Post-Modern Metrosexual Central, and pretty much every comment was “You lost because you’re a crazy bitch nobody trusts, Hillary you ignorant slut”.

        The most interesting part was that such comments were getting between 300 and 450 “thumbs ups” apiece, and consistently getting either 5 or 11 “thumbs down”. Never 6, or 4, or 12- always either 5 or 11.

        I’m inclined to suspect the down votes were coming from Yahoo News’ sysops.

        Still, it shows that Hillary had by Election Day pretty much lost everyone but the hardcore left. Which tells you a lot about the Coastal Enclaves of Blue Enlightenment.

        clear ether


        • JTC

          The hardcore left (media, academia, entertainment) controls the message and the distribution…but they and the bought votes in those CEBE’s just weren’t enough, which explains their “refugee” policys completely.

          And it was oh so close…another year of zero and they would have had replacement voters aplenty to guarantee elite perpetuity.

          Or at least until their invited locust swarm devoured everything, including them.

    • Old Codger

      About her own role, she said, “There were things I could have done better.”

      Her best shot woulda been not to run in the first place.

  • Maj Arkay

    Call me lazy, but I just shake chipotle powder on my buttered popcorn. Mmmm….

  • Oliver Heaviside

    Could some kind soul explain the strip to me? I gather it is supposed to be more than a recipe for spicy popcorn, but the mecksikanets and tasteless popcorn and panel deployment I don’t get. I admit, I’m clueless, but I send Chris money, so please help!

    • Henry

      Anatoly installed an anti-personnel microwave projector on the copter in a previous strip. Now he plans to use it for the first time on a troop of “uninvited immigrants.”

      • Oliver Heaviside

        Thanks, Henry. I am now infinitesimally less clueless…

  • JDow

    Now, I lay you fine people here a problem. It has a simple statement, “Cui bono?” “Who benefits?”

    Who benefited from the Sarin attack?

    Scott Adams had commented about how the attack looks ridiculous from a persuasion standpoint. I ended up verbosely riffing on that.
    Could this be a multi-purpose endeavor?

    At one level if Putin is the creature actually responsible, consider it payback to ISIS for the recent attack in Russia. At another level it is a carefully designed scenario to get Trump to react, if he is ever going to react. It is likely Obama would have simply left another red line crossed with a simple response, “So what?” Trump on the other hand has generated a measured response with minimum human casualties and just a whole lot of property damage to military facilities. In fact this event has given Trump an opportunity, before he officially meets with China’s uberboss, that he will respond to provocations, they will be measured responses, and they will hurt. This may affect the China-NORK relationship with China warning the little twit to cool it.

    I suppose a period of time sitting back and contemplataing “cui bono” for the gas attack would be worthwhile. Go far afield. Who might benefit the most. Lemme see, Putin could have delivered a message to ISIS and provoked a test response from Trump. China could have done it to measure Trump’s inclination to respond and how he responds. THEY might have wanted this information before meeting with Trump. Of course, even Trump could benefit neatly from his measured, non-maniacal, response to a terrible event. Did Trump orchestrate the event?

    Ask the question but don’t expect an affirmative response. It would be easier for Putin to arrange the event than for Trump to arrange it. But, do ask the question. Ask it about all the world leaders such as Erdogan, Merkel, Khamenei/Rouhani, and so forth. Maybe one of them might have a REALLY good reason for arranging the attack.

    You’re right Scott to cast suspicions on the event. Now, who might have worked very hard to orchestrate it for their own benefit? Of course, for that you also need more data on the actual demographics of those killed. If they were Kurds suspect Erdogan, for example.

    Be sure to include “nobody” in the candidate list. That scenario might run with ISIS executing a gas attack or preparing one and an Assad bomb setting it off prematurely when a truck got bombed. Coincidences do happen.

    The matrix of possibilities is huge. Make it and start marking off those things which really can be discredited as impossible.
    I’d like to add to that a little bit after some unverified news I saw this morning. Supposedly only some 20 of the 50 missiles “hit their targets”. Perhaps we could say Mr. Trump was quick enough on the uptake to figure he had a perfect chance to win, win, win in public opinion, deliver several messages, and demonstrate to Congress that the military really does need more money to face the realities Obama has left us mired within here in 2017. He certainly has given the lefties a severe case of whiplash. I kinda like that in a man – or a woman; but, Hillary would have NEVER done this, would she? (snicker)


    • epador

      Its really just another ploy by the Trilateral Commission I bet.

    • Kafiroon

      I have read a number of articles questioning similar to Adams.
      For me, I look at the rotten blurry, off target, cell phone videos and then at what we see on the Gas attack. Reminds me very much of what we have seen many times from Paliwood Productions. Remember all of them? Besides those IS boys have shown they have no conscience or morals. They would have no compunction about gassing their own and filming it to show how bad Assad is.

    • eon

      Then again, it might just be that Assad Junior is like his father. A brutal, stupid thug who thinks that terror is the answer to everything.

      When In Doubt- Kill Somebody. Preferably A Lot Of Somebodies All At Once.

      War gases were made to order for a dictator with this attitude. As Saddam also proved.

      To paraphrase Eric Flint (An Oblique Approach, Belisarius series), If you seek complexity, look in a pile of dogshit, not in the soul of Assad Junior.

      clear ether


      • JTC


        I believe that is exactly the case.

        Let us hope that this (R) does not get sucked -or suckered- into a similar quagmire like the last one did.

      • Rouhani in Iran wants those ‘war gases’ (chemicals) investigate now.

    • Oh, quite over-analyzing it. Trump made a statement with ballistics. Putin is squirming just a bit. The Norks offered a ‘ruthless blow’, but I’m not sure if they were referring to pron or a cheap floor fan from Overstock.
      Just remember: Pres. Trump is nothing like the guy who used to occupy the Oval Office.

      • That is a fact!

  • Halley

    The message President Trump just sent is surely not meant for Assad alone.
    The days of leading (backwards) from one’s anti-American behind are now officially over…

  • And it is about damn time!

    • Pamela

      “Never go anywhere without a knife” Gibbs Rule #9
      I like really good tech in certain situations as it is clean and precise in the delivery, but there are times when old school is needed. Certain skills need to be maintained and taught. Tech needs to be kept current, serviced and replaced. Skills should never be replaced by a dependence on tech.

      • NotYetInACamp

        Common core: Jimmy or Mohamed or Angelita answers 2+2=5.
        Teacher (Indoctrination): Very good child.

  • NotYetInACamp

    To Chancellor Angela and EU Fuehrer Herr Junker of national socialist aristocracy descent.
    from around 1960.

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