• September 27, 2016 at 8:57 pm

    Oh but they did come, they stayed, and they’re still coming to stay. Trump’s primary issue (heh) and maybe the defining issue of our time; immigration.

    Their media no longer reports actual news, it’s just an echo chamber, a rah rah section, and a place for the progs, their thugs, and their replacement electorate to display and spread their hate and destruction…it has reversed roles and now gives voice, presence, and dissemination to the creation of “news” not report it. That was old school journalism that doesn’t exist anymore.

    But as you say, they beclown and embarrass themselves now, with no one paying any attention outside those who just want to see themselves on teevee and in the “news”. And the intertoobs -for now- is the great equalizer in the spread of ideas and events and planning in the same way that RKBA is for protection from the violence of those same thugs and the gov that fosters them.

    And they know it. The only way they can transform society and control it in perpetuity is to flood us with immigrants, remove our tools of defense…and our tool of communication.

    And they’re working on all of those as we speak.

    • September 27, 2016 at 10:38 pm

      While ignoring one of the oldest rules in journalism;

      If you’re fucking the elephants, you ain’t covering the circus.

      – while attributed (in a more cleaned-up version) to Abe Rosenthal,

      apparently first said by Horace Greeley.

      “Yellow” journalism was at least honest about its biases. The Great Lie of journalism is that it is impartial. It isn’t, and never has been.

      The difference is that there used to be news outlets on both sides. That is, until every journalism school in existence decided that all the “enlightenment” was on the left.

      That was also when they rediscovered the joys of hating people for not being like them. And now they need that rush of self-righteousness the way a junkie needs a fix.

      clear ether


      • September 28, 2016 at 9:06 am
        Grunt GI

        “If you’re fucking the elephants, you ain’t covering the circus.”

        A very apt description of both the situation and, in this case, the particular media worshiped candidate.

        Well done, sir, well done

    • September 28, 2016 at 6:20 am

      Old school journalism still exists, just not in the MSM. It’s no longer taught in school, either.
      It’s found in (some of) the alternate media.
      Strange when the amateurs do better than the pros, isn’t it?

      • September 28, 2016 at 9:15 am

        All a reporter needs is knowledge of how to write in proper English, an instinct to look for the truth, the common sense to recognize when liars aren’t even bothering to make their lies consistent, and the honesty to go after the truth regardless of personal biases. The only part of that you might get from school is the writing – and if you didn’t learn it in high school, either first year English in college will give you all you need, or you are simply incapable of learning it.

        But the pros have to have a degree from one of the most leftist departments in a left-leaning university, so they’ve been trained to see the world through ideological blinders. If you can’t see the truth, you can’t report accurately.

        The second problem is that the MSM is run as a business with little respect for quality of the product. They don’t want to pay for reporters to get out there and dig for what really happened when they can fill their pages and air time just by rewriting press releases. And in the short term, gore and sensation attract a larger audience than good reporting; the bosses don’t take a long view and realize that the lack of good reporting is eventually going to be noticed and drive away all but the mouth-breathers.

      • September 28, 2016 at 10:58 am

        Addressed that in the final two paras of my comment Petercat…what you call alternate media is what I called the equivalent of RKBA, which is why both of those are in their sights so to speak; the ability to defend oneself and the ability to seek and speak the truth are what they fear most. A UN administered internet would result in one-world journalism with a degree of truth and access about like what we have now in the lamestream. We can’t let them have it.

  • September 27, 2016 at 9:16 pm

    The evidence is the screaming, increasingly retarded propaganda from them. They ARE NO LONGER RELEVANT. If they ever were. And the burn will kill them. It will be literally generations before they MAYBE regain credibility

    • September 27, 2016 at 11:13 pm

      They will not come back. What will come after will be very different.

  • September 27, 2016 at 9:20 pm

    If nobody came, they’re doing it wrong.
    *sorry mind went there and beyond*

    • September 27, 2016 at 11:33 pm

      Mind resides there…and beyond. 😉

      But, “Children are present.” Puts the lie to that mind voyage.

      • September 27, 2016 at 11:47 pm

        Thing is children are present all the time and have seen and heard much worse. Many have become inured to it all. Buffalo Bob and Howdy Doody exited stage left decades ago. And if a freaking, frelling Libtard uses the phrase “But think of the children” “or “It’s for the CHILDREN” one more time, I’m going to put forth a National Referendum for these phrases never to be used again. It’s fraudulent to do so.

      • September 28, 2016 at 1:45 am

        No, the existence of the child puts the lie to a mind trip to which no one came. Cause/effect pitchers/catchers and all that.


        And anytime anyone utters the words “it’s for the children”, hang onto your wallet and/or your shootin’ iron.

      • September 28, 2016 at 6:12 am

        Kids today… No, parents today…
        I remember reading in History class about the age of adulthood in the days of the “wild” west.
        Stories about teenagers taking on what would now be considered adult responsibilities with both success and failure. Like any adult.
        One story that really stuck out was about a 14 and a 15 year old couple – married – who had inherited a ranch out west when one’s parents were killed. They bossed a pretty tough bunch of cowboys, and were successful.
        Are kids today any less capable of taking on adult responsibilities? Not for the most part, but they would be if their parents prepared them and let them try.
        I’m reminded of a David Weber story, where the hero’s mother told her that raising children is like flying model gliders. First you have to run them up to speed…
        Then you have to let them go.
        The hardest part is knowing when to let go.

      • September 28, 2016 at 7:07 am

        About the only group of young adults that I can think of are in the military. Certainly not in their mid-teens, but young. And most assuredly not all youngsters in the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force & Coast Guard, but most – I believe.

      • September 28, 2016 at 8:26 am

        As any dad that ever taught a kid to ride a bike can attest to.

        Or, in the words of Chris LeDoux

        “You’re proud when they walk, scared when they run” (but don’t you dare grab back on–they’ve got to get scuffed and learn a little. Not that I did such a wonderful job on the first kid, but we did OK.

      • September 28, 2016 at 11:42 am

        Not only did my Dad work on the family farm, he started working in the bakery at 13 and was a Journeyman Baker by the time he was 17. My Mom worked in the orchards during harvests and then the canneries as a teen.

        Lazy bunch of brats.

    • September 28, 2016 at 5:54 am
      Bill G

      My mind had to rise to the gutter to come up with the concept “Millions did, after deciding that Cankles won the debate!”

  • September 27, 2016 at 9:38 pm
    Spin Drift

    Optics of a nation, camera angle, prescripted answers, custom podiums, friendly water carriers asking questions, interjecting down field blocks, all to crown their Queen, Scum sucking bastards. But the people see the subterfuge.

    You can fool some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.

    Is this the first of the great awakening?

    War Damn Screaming Eagle

  • September 27, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    Many people do think differently from us. (Wait for shocked gasps to die down.)
    Many people decide by other methods than we do. (next shocked set of gasps)
    Sometimes you have to blink at the cat and then turn away and ignore it for the cat to understand that you are not threatening to the cat and are OK to be there. (Puzzlement responses)
    alpha males can be frightening and misunderstood by many people. Trump is also having to act in such a way as these people who do actually agree with him on so many matters, can drop from their minds the reasons, taught by MSM and progressives, or just by alpha male current taught bias, that Donald is part of the pack, herd, culture, one of us, one of the clowder, pounce, clutter, or glaring.
    Some people respond negatively to him by conditioning. He likely alleviated many of those feelings and enable more people to feel better about considering voting for him, then voting for him.
    More people will vote for him as a result of how he approached the debate. Now many are more likely to listen to facts he says in the future.
    He was dealing with the way things are now.

    There is more than one way to skin a cat / catt.

    • September 27, 2016 at 10:06 pm

      Also the audience dropped measurably when the game started on another channel. many of those were the infamous undecideds. Many of those do not decide until later. They often are effected by reasoning that we do not use. many want to be on the winning side, which is what the Trump side is rapidly showing itself to be.

      reminds me of the grandparents and older member of a girl I was dating’s family. They asked me who was the best candidate to vote for. I gave them an answer based on the person’s positions. The man lost the primary vote. i was chastised by them when the candidate i recommended did not win the primary. I then determined that they wanted to know who would win (and was not a big ogre). I discussed that with them. they never forgave me for my poor choice.
      Appearances. feelings. being part of the winners. many things matter beyond our own used reasoning enters into the choices of who one makes a mark for on the ballot.
      This is not a perfect world. That is too obvious.

    • September 28, 2016 at 6:16 am

      Hey! HEY! Enough with the cat abuse, okay?
      Go pick on a Chiwawa … Chiuwawah… Dammit.
      Go pick on a dog-shaped, ankle biting, noisy little bug-eyed rodent.

      • September 28, 2016 at 9:32 am

        Mop Dogs. Can’t tell which end is what, and so neurotic they shake more than a junkie needing a fix or Hillary getting ready to implode.

      • September 28, 2016 at 11:14 am

        Chihuahua…and neither of you had best darken wifey’s doorstep; hell hath no fury like a five foot nothing blonde Georgia girl in defense of her almost-a-dogs, who ironically are essentially cats (oh yes they are).

        Not my fave flavor of canine either but then I could do without the three rescue cats who also prowl the premises. NYIAC was exposed to the lot of them the other night and after alerting to the presence of an outsider (they’re really good at that) they let him be.

        Gives you an idea how much say-so the man of the house has when it comes to matters of the heart. But all the furballs like me in spite of me being agnostic about them, so she’s let me stay around for 45 years; I pick my battles carefully.

      • September 28, 2016 at 11:52 am


        Two of my cats are larger than those critters.
        I did have a 125 pound Wolfhoud/Irish Setter/Lab mix named Charlie with what appeared to be a grown out wanna be blond/ redhead die job. She was a good Dog even with loose screws rattling around that head of hers. I like them big.

      • September 28, 2016 at 12:15 pm

        I figured JTC would comment on his rat dogs. The first time my niece’s rat dogs came to the house, my large Maine Coon cat (irreplaceable and deceased) saw them from the church across the street. She then started a circuitous mostly hidden stalk behind cars, through hedges, maintaining cover for about 60 yards. When she emerged from under a car in the driveway she headed through the legs of the people standing there and pounced. I had moved strategically and positioned myself so that a last second move enabled me to catch her in mid pounce on a rat dog. She was very unhappy to have been denied her prey. The dogs were smaller than rats that she had previously proudly given to me, including one on my bed that she waited for me to wake up and be happy about. She had a cat door. Two of the people noticed what had happened. The rest were in oblivion, as most people are. Lack of situational awareness plagues mankind.
        His wife has nice animals. And that trick with blinking your eyes at a cat that is staring at you, then looking away works. It is a non threatening signal to the cat.
        JTC is OK also.

      • September 28, 2016 at 12:19 pm

        “I like them big.”

        Heh. Why does that not surprise me? Right there with ya.

        Oh, dogs? Yeah, them too.

      • September 28, 2016 at 1:32 pm

        Conversely, cats are sometimes dogs…from the old dead blog, this is the story of mine:

        Eight years gone almost to the day, and I miss him still.

  • September 27, 2016 at 10:10 pm

    We saw some of how they think and what they think will crush Trump in Holt’s outside directed comments.
    The bad people were in his ear. Holt followed orders.

  • September 27, 2016 at 10:14 pm

    Holt didn’t mention Benghazi — no surprise there. Trump had plenty of opportunities to mention Benghazi and didn’t. What the heck?

    • September 28, 2016 at 6:30 am

      Nor did he mention the Clinton Foundation when the subject of taxes was broached, or Hillary’s serial enabling of Bill’s sexual predation when Herself began to scold Trump for saying mean things about women. Both of those lines of attack were utterly predictable and should have been rehearsed ad nauseum in debate prep.

  • September 27, 2016 at 10:28 pm
    B Woodman

    “There are children present.”
    Mother, censor thyself. Like Bill Cosby’s old routine about self-censoring fathers.

  • September 27, 2016 at 10:34 pm
    B Woodman

    I KNEW that hippie slogan pap would eventually be used for good someday (what if. . . ..and nobody came ). Now let’s see if we can find a way to apply this to FedGov taxes and regulations. Like. . . .maybe. . . . VOTE TRUMP!!

    (sorry for the ramble and disjoint).

  • September 27, 2016 at 10:42 pm

    The media are merely cheerleaders for the democrats.

  • September 27, 2016 at 11:48 pm

    The LSM can go forth and fornicate itself. They’ve had plenty of practice doing it to us.

    • September 28, 2016 at 5:58 am
      Bill G

      I recently saw the Old Media referred to as the Democrat Media Complex, and thought it was perfect, labeling the DMC as they are; they have become a subsidiary of the DNC.

      • September 28, 2016 at 6:06 am
        B Woodman

        Been calling “it” the Dem-S-M for awhile.

  • September 27, 2016 at 11:50 pm
  • September 28, 2016 at 1:47 am

    I recorded it, and watched it tonight. The Donald could have done better, I must admit, but he put in a few good strokes. Maybe he’ll go for the throat next debate.

    • September 28, 2016 at 6:49 am

      He’s a businessman who is used to negotiations, often with hostile opponents ranging from other business people to government authorities from nation-stats who are little better than con men and fraudsters who happen to have an army to do their dirty work for them.

      I believe this was the first time he’d ever met Hillary face-to-face. For him, this was the meet-and-greet, where he sizes up the other party.

      You don’t go for the throat at the meet-and-greet. You figure out your opponent and decide exactly what crowbar to use in the final stage.

      Just as you don’t sell past the close, you also don’t lay out all your wares at the open.

      I don’t believe either the progressives or their media acolytes understand this. Which is all to the good. After all, for the good of the world, they have to lose.

      clear ether


      • September 28, 2016 at 9:25 am

        Indeed, and indeed.

      • September 28, 2016 at 12:10 pm

        The consummate businessman/negotiator, yes. But an imperfect metaphor here since the buyer is the unseen third party…or really fourth party in this case…there are two competing salespeople with very different products, one of which has the full backing of the sponsor of the presentation.

        So DT has to not only outsell the competition with a superior product but get past the vested interests who control the negotiations. That’s a tough deal to make even for the master of them. Yes I agree you hold back your closing argument until the final round, but you gotta get to the final round with as much damage done to the competition’s false claims and inferior bill of goods as possible in the early rounds…it’s a progression. And absolutely some opportunities to snatch some low hanging fruit was left unsnatched.

        But Trump acknowledged this at the end, and I think set the stage as it were, for the onslaught to come. And he cannot afford to miss any more opportunities to draw the hard line between the efficacy of his product compared to the other one, in spite of the huge team of interference on the other side trying to tilt scale with lies and innuendo, especially when the ultimate (fourth party) consumer is not very sophisticated and has a proven record of terrible judgment and bad purchases.

        Gloves off, Donald, that’s what got you where you are, don’t let “advisers” make you adopt a namby pamby approach now!

      • September 28, 2016 at 6:27 pm

        Baloney. There are plenty of old publicity photos of Donald Trump schmoozing with Hillary and Bill back when he was contributing money to the Clinton Foundation.
        I smell a rat. It’s almost as if Trump is trying to throw the fight.

  • September 28, 2016 at 6:05 am
    Bill G

    Fewer and fewer are going to the Old Media for news; this is why the left is so intensely focused on winning now.
    A victory in this election will get them at least a 5-4 edge on SCOTUS, allow them to give voting rights to millions of new ‘citizens’ and get their Permanent Democrat Majority.

  • September 28, 2016 at 11:33 am
    Oliver Heaviside

    Frankly, Trump needed a lot of interrupting. I was disappointed.

    There should be two phases. One where it is timed, same for both sides, and the other person’s mic is dead. One where it’s much more of a free for all – candidates can argue with each other.

  • September 28, 2016 at 11:40 am

    HAHAHA…man if it wasn’t so fucking pathetic and symbolic of the desperate decay of this “culture”, that would be the funniest thing I’ve seen all year.

    • September 28, 2016 at 11:55 am

      They just don’t like him ‘cuz he’s green.

      • September 28, 2016 at 12:20 pm


      • September 28, 2016 at 12:23 pm

        They don’t like the IRISH????

        I also am IRISH!
        I also am a Notre Dame Fighting Irish!

        Do they want a fight? Well! Do they? I’m ready.

        Europe is banning all national and place names for sports teams, I hear.

      • September 28, 2016 at 2:42 pm

        Ditto on the Irish.
        You never want to be on the receiving end of a pissed off redhead under full steam of being totally torqued off looking for blood. The results are not pretty.

  • September 28, 2016 at 12:19 pm

    The “Cleaner.”

    Even more than prepared answers from whatever source on her podium, the signals seem to follow the narrative of interaction.

    By any means necessary is a basic Alinsky method.

    Hillary always has people there to wipe her butt.
    Also notice the smug smile on the cleaner’s face when he hands the folder with the “papers” to Lester Holt.
    Lester left as someone could accidentally knock those papers out of his hand, see what they are, and ruin what had been a job well done.

  • September 28, 2016 at 1:07 pm

    Dr. Michael Savage is still off the air after his New York market was pulled off the air mid show. He then complained on air during the rest of the show and was then pulled during his feed to over 400 affiliates. This happened two days ago.

    Our future? Do we need a miracle dealing with organized crime which is establishing a worldwide regime.
    The spy grid corporate takeover of the world is in process.

    • September 28, 2016 at 2:38 pm

      Time to exercise the power of the purse and “BOYCOTT” whoever the rat bastards are that pulled him off the air.

      • September 28, 2016 at 6:16 pm

        I believe that ABC is the holder of his radio contract. It was the main ABC Radio station in New York City that was pulled first, i recall.

        Heck. I don’t watch TV these days. It’s kind of hard to boycott (an Irish world named after the shunning of retired English Capt. Boycott for his refusal of demands concerning land and rents during an economic downturn.) when one already is boycotting TV. I may still set up an antennae. But yet aqnother excuse to delay.

        I think people are already boycotting much of the media.the new real media seems to already be displacing the lame old media.
        The new is a better source of facts and true analysis.

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