A 16 year old girl sitting in a legally parked car talking to her mom on the phone. A mob forms, begins banging on the car, and threatens to rape her to death.
That type of threat far exceeds a reasonable standard for use of deadly force, and justifiable homicide.
The moment the mob breached the peace with either Assault (the verbal threat to rape her to death), or Vandalism and attempting to Break and Enter the vehicle, they should have been dead right there.
If civilization is to survive, the instantaneous elimination of that type of threat must become far more commonplace.
Ditto for the idiot congress-bitch that laid hands on the ICE agent. If you choose to initiate kinetic action you deserve an immediate and overwhelming response.
In L. Neil Smith’s North American Confederacy, they swear by the Gallatin Principle never to INITIATE violence; but, if attacked, they are EXPECTED to respond with overwhelming, and most likely, lethal force.
One must read Col. Jeff Cooper’s “Principles of Personal Defence. Its not tactics, you had to “go to school” at Gunsite to learn those…the Principles are all strictly mind-set, to be ready to deal with the feral human….
The problem is that the law is not enforced as written. The mob will inevitably get a “Get out Of Jail Free Card” treatment, while anyone who attempts to defend themselves will be both legally sanctioned and vilified in the “press”.
The deck is stacked in favor of those who want chaos, dream of destruction, and practice sociopathy.
The enlightened elite idolize the mob. Not least because they see it as both their primary means of controlling the peasantry (by terror), and the primary pipeline for the recreational drugs which the elite apparently just cannot do without.
To solve this problem, simply doing a Bloody Sunday (London 13 Nov 1887) every time the mob goes on a tear isn’t enough.
We need to bring the elite to account. Preferably with prison time.
That tends to empower the elite to suppress “dissent” by the proverbial Any Means Necessary.
And our elite would like nothing better than to have an excuse to do exactly that.
That’s why the remedy must be legal, as much as is feasible.
Put simply, we need a Churchill. It’s either that or a Cromwell.
And once a nation-state reaches the point of needing the latter, it’s Caesar crossing the Rubicon time.
clear ether
eon
May 13, 2025 at 9:27 am
Oldarmourer
In Canada, you have no legal right to defend yourself, so sayeth our last PM and his hand appointed ‘judges’, all surrounded by armed security and a great many rcmp officers that should be out protecting the people instead.
Supposedly, according to the Criminal Code at least, you are allowed to return force for force received, but that’s been interpreted as ‘you can’t use a weapon on an assailant unless he’s already used the same exact sort of weapon on you.’ no ‘he uses his fists you use your stick, he pulls a knife you use your gun’ permitted.
In a case close to this area, when a man retrieved his locked firearm from it’s locked container in a locked room and then retrieved the ammunition from it’s locked container in a seperate locked room, in order to defend his family from a mob of local organized crime supporters who had already tried to burn his house with him in it…repeatedly…he was the only one charged with anything. He lived in a village on an island some distance offshore with no local police or fire department and any assistance was hours away but that was irrelevant to the court. He dared to defend himself and an example had to be made of him so nobody else would be inclined to resist their fate at the hands of a mob.
The annoying part is that when an inmate in a maximum security federal prison was charged with possessing a ‘shank’ with the intention of attacking Officers, the judge dismissed the charges saying “if I were in prison I’d want a weapon too”…save yourselves, we’re done for.
Believe it or not, Canada used to have more firearms per capita than the US. The vast majority of said firearms were long arms. Handguns have restricted since 1934. Originally the only restriction was the owners were required to register the handgun.
Wannabe communist Trudeau the Elder started the ball rolling on gun grabbing back in 1969 by creating legislation to classify firearms as either unrestricted (long arms), restricted (handguns) and prohibited (of course).
The real push began when the Liberals under Chretien decided all firearms should be registered and graciously offered to dispose of any firearms of legacy owners who didn’t want to meet their new safe storage regulations.
Long story short, although the long arm registry was ultimately disbanded, the Liberals “won” by forcing all firearm owners to be licensed; made the register moot. And the Conservatives have been completely ineffective on the issue.
If there is one compelling argument the left and right are two wings on the same dirty bird, firearms would be that argument.
The issue remains, since we
are constantly made aware of
rising crime, why are so many
in office fixed on trying to
make it as difficult as possible
for people to defend themselves.
We must vote in logical types
who believe people have the
right to self defense.
Unfortunately logic and common
sense are not all that common.
Spot on, Mort. Folks like those judges giving any, and I mean any criminal illegal alien rights to remain or return to the U.S. after repeated convictions should be impeached and removed. U.S. safety for U.S. citizens and legal immigrant workers and tourists of all stripes. But deciding against us, for the criminal, is insane, mean, nefarious, and sad.
Even the so-called “imprisoned” elites in their Club Fed country clubs will eventually be released to continue their greedy grifting. There is no pretrial diversion, parole, pardon, or commutation of a sentence to the graveyard! Particularly one achieved by “extra-judicial” means!
We were taught to fear the military industrial complex. What we have now is the Judicial industrial complex where they want as many people as they can into the system defending themselves.
During a gun control debate, i was told by an Illinois congresswomen she wasn’t concerned about criminals since they were already in the system. She added she was afraid of those who weren’t in the system YET.
A law abiding citizen who kills an attacker denies a lawyer a chance to make an income off that criminal.
How many thousands of taxpayer dollars are paid out to a killer’s lawyer as that lawyer defends the death row inmate? If that lawyer is so concerned about the killer’s wellbeing, then the lawyer’s time shouldn’t be billed.
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A 16 year old girl sitting in a legally parked car talking to her mom on the phone. A mob forms, begins banging on the car, and threatens to rape her to death.
That type of threat far exceeds a reasonable standard for use of deadly force, and justifiable homicide.
The moment the mob breached the peace with either Assault (the verbal threat to rape her to death), or Vandalism and attempting to Break and Enter the vehicle, they should have been dead right there.
If civilization is to survive, the instantaneous elimination of that type of threat must become far more commonplace.
Ditto for the idiot congress-bitch that laid hands on the ICE agent. If you choose to initiate kinetic action you deserve an immediate and overwhelming response.
This, exactly.
In L. Neil Smith’s North American Confederacy, they swear by the Gallatin Principle never to INITIATE violence; but, if attacked, they are EXPECTED to respond with overwhelming, and most likely, lethal force.
100% agree.
One must read Col. Jeff Cooper’s “Principles of Personal Defence. Its not tactics, you had to “go to school” at Gunsite to learn those…the Principles are all strictly mind-set, to be ready to deal with the feral human….
The problem is that the law is not enforced as written. The mob will inevitably get a “Get out Of Jail Free Card” treatment, while anyone who attempts to defend themselves will be both legally sanctioned and vilified in the “press”.
The deck is stacked in favor of those who want chaos, dream of destruction, and practice sociopathy.
The enlightened elite idolize the mob. Not least because they see it as both their primary means of controlling the peasantry (by terror), and the primary pipeline for the recreational drugs which the elite apparently just cannot do without.
To solve this problem, simply doing a Bloody Sunday (London 13 Nov 1887) every time the mob goes on a tear isn’t enough.
We need to bring the elite to account. Preferably with prison time.
clear ether
eon
eon,
Historically, the conditions that you accurately describe, assassination becomes the most effective method to resolve the issue.
That tends to empower the elite to suppress “dissent” by the proverbial Any Means Necessary.
And our elite would like nothing better than to have an excuse to do exactly that.
That’s why the remedy must be legal, as much as is feasible.
Put simply, we need a Churchill. It’s either that or a Cromwell.
And once a nation-state reaches the point of needing the latter, it’s Caesar crossing the Rubicon time.
clear ether
eon
In Canada, you have no legal right to defend yourself, so sayeth our last PM and his hand appointed ‘judges’, all surrounded by armed security and a great many rcmp officers that should be out protecting the people instead.
Supposedly, according to the Criminal Code at least, you are allowed to return force for force received, but that’s been interpreted as ‘you can’t use a weapon on an assailant unless he’s already used the same exact sort of weapon on you.’ no ‘he uses his fists you use your stick, he pulls a knife you use your gun’ permitted.
In a case close to this area, when a man retrieved his locked firearm from it’s locked container in a locked room and then retrieved the ammunition from it’s locked container in a seperate locked room, in order to defend his family from a mob of local organized crime supporters who had already tried to burn his house with him in it…repeatedly…he was the only one charged with anything. He lived in a village on an island some distance offshore with no local police or fire department and any assistance was hours away but that was irrelevant to the court. He dared to defend himself and an example had to be made of him so nobody else would be inclined to resist their fate at the hands of a mob.
The annoying part is that when an inmate in a maximum security federal prison was charged with possessing a ‘shank’ with the intention of attacking Officers, the judge dismissed the charges saying “if I were in prison I’d want a weapon too”…save yourselves, we’re done for.
Sounds like a situation where “kill them ALL” should be the standing order.
Believe it or not, Canada used to have more firearms per capita than the US. The vast majority of said firearms were long arms. Handguns have restricted since 1934. Originally the only restriction was the owners were required to register the handgun.
Wannabe communist Trudeau the Elder started the ball rolling on gun grabbing back in 1969 by creating legislation to classify firearms as either unrestricted (long arms), restricted (handguns) and prohibited (of course).
The real push began when the Liberals under Chretien decided all firearms should be registered and graciously offered to dispose of any firearms of legacy owners who didn’t want to meet their new safe storage regulations.
Long story short, although the long arm registry was ultimately disbanded, the Liberals “won” by forcing all firearm owners to be licensed; made the register moot. And the Conservatives have been completely ineffective on the issue.
If there is one compelling argument the left and right are two wings on the same dirty bird, firearms would be that argument.
The issue remains, since we
are constantly made aware of
rising crime, why are so many
in office fixed on trying to
make it as difficult as possible
for people to defend themselves.
We must vote in logical types
who believe people have the
right to self defense.
Unfortunately logic and common
sense are not all that common.
Logic, and Common Sense, are so rare, they should be Superpowers!!
Spot on, Mort. Folks like those judges giving any, and I mean any criminal illegal alien rights to remain or return to the U.S. after repeated convictions should be impeached and removed. U.S. safety for U.S. citizens and legal immigrant workers and tourists of all stripes. But deciding against us, for the criminal, is insane, mean, nefarious, and sad.
Even the so-called “imprisoned” elites in their Club Fed country clubs will eventually be released to continue their greedy grifting. There is no pretrial diversion, parole, pardon, or commutation of a sentence to the graveyard! Particularly one achieved by “extra-judicial” means!
We were taught to fear the military industrial complex. What we have now is the Judicial industrial complex where they want as many people as they can into the system defending themselves.
During a gun control debate, i was told by an Illinois congresswomen she wasn’t concerned about criminals since they were already in the system. She added she was afraid of those who weren’t in the system YET.
A law abiding citizen who kills an attacker denies a lawyer a chance to make an income off that criminal.
How many thousands of taxpayer dollars are paid out to a killer’s lawyer as that lawyer defends the death row inmate? If that lawyer is so concerned about the killer’s wellbeing, then the lawyer’s time shouldn’t be billed.
Right on 2.5, Shakespeare`s Brillant
observance which was “First kill all
the Lawyers”.
I said that once in the company of
a friend who was a lawyer, with another
lawyer standing by…. it wasn`t well
received….but you got to make a living.