Progressives Comments Heltau Oct 04 2017 at 12:07 am Yes, “Dune”, helped to show all that and more. JackDeth 72 Oct 04 2017 at 12:07 am No wonder the Klan and Jim Crow are shining examples of “inclusion” within the Democrat Party’s history. JTC Oct 04 2017 at 12:10 am Fear is indeed the mind killer, freedom killer…people killer. And while the logistics might make it not applicable in this case (this psycho thought this through), the prospect of overwhelming self-defense is what fascists fear most. John Andrews Oct 04 2017 at 12:11 am Nevada has open carry with few restrictions. See http://www.newsweek.com/las-vegas-gun-laws-open-carry-concealed-weapon-machine-guns-all-legal-nevada-675310 JSStryker Oct 04 2017 at 12:15 am Good for them! WayneM Oct 04 2017 at 12:44 am “Progressive” is another example of a word being co-opted by globalists… At least, according to the Ministry of Truth… JackDeth 72 Oct 04 2017 at 1:30 am And do not forget The Department Of Redundancy Department, Comrade Wayne. Brasspounder Oct 04 2017 at 7:18 am From Wikipedia: Progressive disease or progressive illness is a disease or physical ailment whose course in most cases is the worsening, growth, or spread of the disease. This may happen until death, serious debility, or organ failure occurs. Some progressive diseases can be halted and reversed by treatment. Many can be slowed by medical therapy. Some cannot be altered by current treatments. John Oct 04 2017 at 4:02 pm Socialism is a progressive disease of government. Explains everything. Alex J Oct 04 2017 at 1:11 am Quoting Col. Kurt Schlicter: The same people who want to take away our right to keep/bear arms also want to limit our speech, limit our ability to practice our religion and eliminate our basic due process rights. Funny how the problem is always – always – normal Americans having rights. Kurt Schlicter is a sometimes outspoken lawyer and veteran who writes for Town Hall. Browncoat Oct 04 2017 at 7:21 am Just learned of him from a friend posting this on FB. https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2017/10/02/draft-n2389301 John Oct 04 2017 at 4:16 pm I do hope the good lieutenant gets to go to Leavenworth, and I _don’t_ mean the Command and General Staff college. GruntGI Oct 04 2017 at 9:11 am It does seem that every “progressive” is filled with nothing but hatred, envy, and a general unhappiness no doubt caused by their own self-loathing…which of course they have to project on everyone else. So weird that so many white “limousine liberals” seem to be filled with vitriol toward other white people because of their guilt at being born white. Oyyy…at least Jan has managed to break free and find some happiness. Good for her. I especially like it when Jan exercises her right to be “top-free” and “free the nipples” That’s my favorite freedom. 🙂 Jack M Feldman Oct 04 2017 at 1:16 am Sorry, this one’s just dumb. If every single one of the concert goers was armed and trained, they couldn’t effectively return fire with handguns against an obscured target 400 yards distant and 300+ feet above them. Even if they all had rifles the point stands. An Orlando-style attack is another matter. Chris Muir Oct 04 2017 at 2:59 pm Cartoon,Jack,cartoon.Serious sometimes in principles, not so much in scenarios.;) KenH Oct 04 2017 at 2:21 am Frighteningly , Janny, that makes you a fool, AND a Fascist But those are not mutually exclusive. Especially for RATS Halley Oct 04 2017 at 2:32 am “As a Democrat, you fear free men” How many lives here does that so succinctly define? More than just mine, I’m sure. Being surrounded by Democrats challenges the better angels of both one’s mind and body. cmblake6 Oct 04 2017 at 2:55 am Truth can indeed be painful, nicht wahr? Browncoat Oct 04 2017 at 3:22 am Hey Progressives… “May thy blade chip and shatter!” Bill G Oct 04 2017 at 5:12 am The hoplophobes who make up a large part of the left’s base, the living part, fears armed citizens because they know that they could not be trusted to handle a gun responsibly. I believe that what the left’s elites fear is the mind of the armed citizen, who is not waiting around for gummint to solve all his or her problems. When that mindset gets prevalent enough the liberal party is done, no matter how many dead and repeater votes they have. eon Oct 04 2017 at 5:52 am Mostly, what they fear is retribution for what they dream of doing. One reason for the left’s embrace of anti-Christianity, anti-Semitism, and atheism is that the Judeo-Christian faiths hold that what you do in this life decides what you get in the afterlife. And the rules are pretty specific; they’re called the Ten Commandments. Now, if you WANT to engage in theft, cuckolding, murder, adultery, idolatry, and etc., it’s far easier to justify it to yourself and others if you maintain that either (a) there is no afterlife or (b) the rules of those faiths don’t apply, but those of some others might. Like Islam, which demands the destruction or enslavement of “unbelievers” as an act of faith. Not to mention belief systems that insist that getting high is the One True Path To The Divine. Obviously, if such belief systems are the only ones recognized as valid, then you can do whatever you want, to whoever you want, whenever you want, as long as you can avoid having to pay for it in this life. In the next life, you’ll be rewarded for hurting others. Or else there is no next life, so after you’re dead, who cares? You’ve had your fun at everyone else’s expense. Yes, it is the mindset of “nobility” down through history. Notably in ancient China, Islam, and medieval and Renaissance Europe. Needless to say, this sort of super-self-indulgent life is a lot easier to live if those you want to hurt for your own edification are defenseless. Predators, even fairly dumb wannabee ones, tend to avoid prey that can hurt them. There are always easier targets. An armed populace is no longer a herd of easy prey, but a minefield of “hard targets” in the eyes of the “superior ones”. It forces them to do the one thing they will resist to their own deaths; exercise restraint in their behavior. They see that as a betrayal of their true selves, and it simply will not be tolerated by them. This is at the heart of the “gun control” debate. it’s ultimately about people who see themselves as something innately superior to the rest of humanity, and who want to do as they please- with the rest of humanity. And who have spent their lives being enraged that the consequences of what they dream of doing would not be pleasant for them. Unless of course, they can strip the prey of their teeth and claws before getting down to the serious business of getting Gilles de Rais and/or Erzebet Bathory on their asses. clear ether eon Olddog Oct 04 2017 at 6:41 am Well stated. I especially liked you phrase “in the next life, you’ll be rewarded for hurting others.” One of the things people know, but haven’t stated as clearly. In relation to Islam, I plan to steal it. NotYetInACamp Oct 04 2017 at 8:16 am Killing an infidel gains them paradise. So they have been indoctrinated. GruntGI Oct 04 2017 at 10:32 am Interesting that in Christianity you become a martyr by dying for faith, in Islam you become a martyr by killing other people for their faith. Just a thought. Swansonic Oct 04 2017 at 10:51 pm Well said, Grunt GI. Very well said… The Nth Doctor Oct 04 2017 at 9:07 am Or, to put it more succinctly: If someone wants to take your guns away from you, it’s because they want to do something to you that they couldn’t do if you still had them. armedandsafe Oct 04 2017 at 2:40 pm That I like. I’m going to steal it (With your permission, that is.) The Nth Doctor Oct 05 2017 at 8:31 am Feel free to spread the word as necessary. 🙂 Halley Oct 04 2017 at 7:21 am I’ve had far too many all-to-close encounters arguing with “Democrats” (what a ludicrously deceptive label) and have concluded that what they absolutely fear most is having their bad intentions exposed. No matter what you pretend to believe in, you cannot join the Left unless, at the very perhaps-unconscious root of it, you lust to destroy, punish, and steal. Expose that core motivation, and be careful they don’t draw a knife on you. S'aaruuk Oct 04 2017 at 7:45 am They pull a knife, I pull a gun. They NEVER LEARN to not bring a knife to a gunfight. NotYetInACamp Oct 04 2017 at 8:17 am She finally found a free man. … Pecan Scandi Oct 04 2017 at 9:20 am THEM: “You’re a free man!!” ME: “No I ain’t! I’s expensive” Spin Drift Oct 04 2017 at 9:21 am As to the return fire, the 32nd floor window is about 360 yards to the center of the kill zone. Since most of Texas would be CCW handguns it would be lucky shots that make it to the shooter. Many would be short and low into the hotel. Oh the humanity that would perish in that scenario. As more “facts” come, more “iron clad conclusions” don’t add up. The list of why questions is astounding. One absolute change from now on is the fact that all the Vegas hotels will now have mandatory room service everyday. Spin Shoot low boys, they’re riding Shetland pony’s. War Damn Eagle JTC Oct 04 2017 at 10:32 am Correct as to ROF, hence my logistics comment above that self-defense in this case was not applicable, exactly as the POS planned. Getting to your truck for a rifle presumably while under fire, coming back and ID’ing the target, would have taken way longer than the active shooting went on…less than ten minutes or so they’ve said. Thanks to God that the first LE to the door caused him to go ahead and off himself, since the additional hour it took for SWAT to access would have meant a hell of a lot more shooting and a hell of a lot more casualties…which of course was the plan and is the answer to the media’s incredulous “Why so many guns and so much ammo?” This could have been much, much worse. And as you said we can be grateful too that there was no external ROF as no doubt any kills from it would have been more innocents. Sometimes there is no ideal response to or prevention from abject evil that as Trump said this individual embodied. But for leftists (and I don’t just mean those with D’s after their name, I’m looking at you, Ryan), to use such to curtail or infringe my right and ability to defend from other much more common and likely attack (like the attack on rights itself), is beyond cold and cruel. The left’s response is to take the opportunity to call for denying my right to buy a gun. My response is to buy another gun today. And if you can, you should too. Edward D Maner Oct 04 2017 at 9:31 am ‘There are worse things than death, even for an entire people.’ – Dune ‘You ****; I would rather see my daughter dead than growing up in the sort of world you would create.’ – John Dahlquist From ‘The Long Watch’ by Heinlein Unca Walt Oct 04 2017 at 9:46 am Regarding the “lone” shooter: And folks… Please listen to the video recording full-auto fire going off: 1. At 2 seconds into the video, distant auto-fire. 2. At 4 seconds, VERY CLOSE auto-fire (that guy could RUN!) because… 3. At 7 seconds, distant auto-fire took up again. “One” fast guy. Impressive. https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/915380392764551168 Z-man51 Oct 04 2017 at 11:27 pm The “CLOSE” sounds are the actual retorts from the rifle…the “DISTANT” sounds are the echoes reflected back from a building approximately 1000 yards away. Being on the receiving end of fire, it’s easy to recognize. DonS Oct 04 2017 at 10:18 am UW, I’ve never been on the receiving end of gunfire, but I’m wondering if the volume difference could be due to the shooter shifting his aim point from way off-axis, to directly at the recording mic, then away again. Single-point recording wouldn’t let you do it, but I’ll bet the audio from the numerous mics on stage could be analyzed for stereo-effect phase difference to determine if the loud vs. soft reports came from different locations on the hotel. I wish we could trust the folks doing the analysis to tell us the truth, and not stick with the convenient “One shooter, he’s dead, end of story.” neat package they have now. As an OKC (metro) resident, I’m remembering all the loose ends from the Murrah bombing… still unresolved to this day (and no, I don’t think that was an inside job.) I was still active duty AF at Tinker AFB, and volunteered to help. They had us policing the surrounding area for bomb truck fragments; little bits of twisted metal just beginning to rust. All that experience picking up cigarette butts in boot camp finally came in handy… LOL! BTW, the shooter had 12 weapons fitted with “bump stocks” as opposed to full-auto converted actions. Having fired one (once), it takes some practice to get a consistent rate of fire with those rigs. Accuracy sucks, but he didn’t need accuracy to shoot fish in a barrel. DonS Oct 04 2017 at 10:21 am SD, and unbreakable windows, no doubt. Unca Walt Oct 04 2017 at 11:08 am DonS — This ain’t Dallas with one lady with a Polaroid and a guy named Zapruder. There are gazillions of people who filmed this attack. For instance: Full-auto fire filmed coming from the tenth floor FAR AWAY from those two broken windows. And… Wait… rather than use up Chris’ bandwidth, lemme just post a bunch of sources. And I want to add: Two female employees of a different casino saw two armed men in combat gear go running by them while they hid. Here’s links that really ought to be clicked on before they go away: Two thirty-round magazines fired close by, then — at 1:53 in the video, extremely distant auto-fire is heard. https://video.search.yahoo.com/searc…a&action=click This one has multiple auto-fire 56 seconds in: https://youtu.be/Xd4wBEZcOKE?t=62 This video clearly shows auto-fire from the 10th floor… thirty floors lower than the lone gunman, and in a different part of the building to boot. https://youtu.be/NVnNKOKVhx4?t=99 There are a ton more… but I made a screenshot of the 10th storey shooting position compared to the LONE shooter position. http://goldsilverchat.com/gsc/attachment.php?attachmentid=21536&d=1507128372 Unca Walt Oct 04 2017 at 11:10 am Chris — WFT? “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” How many years I gotta subscribe afore I’se one of de boys? GruntGI Oct 04 2017 at 11:35 am Unca, don’t feel bad…that happens to me sometimes…weird trons…. JTC Oct 04 2017 at 11:53 am UW, two links in one comment will do that. I learned to double-tap to avoid that quote of doom. Chris Muir Oct 04 2017 at 2:57 pm Yeah, I got no clue why that happens. Don in AK Oct 04 2017 at 3:58 pm Unca Walt, note the links you provided have been blocked. I tried 3. One, page no longer exists. One, Video has been removed, violation of utube safety policy. One, google blocked access with a full page red warning that this was a “dangerous site” that would attempt to steal my credit card and other nafarious stuff. The coverup at work??? DonS Oct 04 2017 at 4:24 pm UW, I wasn’t disagreeing with you; just askin.’ Got the same blockage as Don in AK. Found this with muzzle flashes coming from the 4th floor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fp3xgmQgiA Definitely multiple shooters. Z-man51 Oct 04 2017 at 11:34 pm The “CLOSE” sharp and sounds are the actual retorts from the rifle…the “DISTANT” thud sounds are the echoes reflected back from a building approximately 1000 yards away. Being on the receiving end of fire, it’s easy to recognize. Jack Oct 04 2017 at 6:13 pm Sorry, Chris. I largely agree with your principles but if you get simple things wrong you lose credibility. As long as you’re preaching to the choir it doesn’t matter because they’ll “Amen!” everything, but if you want a larger audience you have to get even the details right. Pictures are nice, though. Chris Muir Oct 04 2017 at 8:07 pm Oscar Wilde was right. JTC Oct 04 2017 at 9:19 pm Dang. Not only is Chris a hack, but we are his minions. That you Hillary? GruntGI Oct 04 2017 at 9:49 pm Actually, I wouldn’t mind being Sam’s minion…or Jan’s Just saying… Pamela Oct 04 2017 at 7:49 pm There are some lines a person should never cross and you just did. Any thought of heaven or the after life is now forfeit as is your twisted pitiful soul. Pray all you want, there will be no reply No forgiveness will be granted for the damnation brought down on your sorry head. Salvation won’t be there come judgment day. The gates will be locked and I have the only spare key. With redemption comes accountability and you’ll have better luck cutting a deal with Lucifer than me. NotYetInACamp Oct 04 2017 at 11:47 pm Man. You’re tough!