Seizing the boats had nothing to do with America. It was done to send a message to Saudi Arabia. Not even the Americans can protect the Saudis.
January 18, 2016 at 12:06 am
B Woodman
You’ve GOT to be Joshing me. You can’t be in Earnest (ugh. that brings up another mind bleach image).
There’s a lot more to this Iran/USNavy incident then we’re being told. Matt Bracken (posted on Western Rifle Shooters) has brought up some good questions that we’re likely to not find answers to for another 50 years.
January 18, 2016 at 12:09 am
B Woodman
“No reason to be embarrassed.”
Only if you’re a DemonRat with no sense of self worth or national pride. In other words, the attitude of a typical Prog Libtard.
January 18, 2016 at 12:11 am
Sergeant Alan Dean Briley, RN
I was an Airborne Infantryman. I was a Top Team Sniper in the 18th Airborne Corps ( not “Corpse” as the POS in the White House called it ), and an aggressive, mission oriented bastard who would die in place before embarrassing my nation, my unit, or my bothers, because mission first, men always. You kill the other bastard for his country, because we represent the moral high ground, and the last great hope for the world. If I was on my knees, it gave me the best opportunity to allow the other bastard to die for his country. Obama is not my president, and not my CIC.
January 18, 2016 at 1:40 am
NotYetInACamp
I know smart capable young men who are delaying entering the military because they do not want Obama as their CIC.
January 18, 2016 at 2:34 pm
Strnj1
Would you ??
January 18, 2016 at 12:36 am
JohninMd.(Help!?!!)
Mr. Earnest ( so frikkin’ ironically named) is like every other Obama official. You can tell when they’re lying, cuz their lips are flappin’.
January 18, 2016 at 12:45 am
interventor
Josh Earnest, now the buggers have names straight from an Ayn Rand novel
January 18, 2016 at 1:10 am
CAPT Mike
I retired from the Sub force.
I am beyond angry at this situation.
Lots of fault to go around here.
Considering how the Israelis regard a nuclear-armed Iran, might this not be the time for the House of Saud to drop the pretenses and make formal alliance with the far more effectively nuclear-armed Sabras?
If there’s no counting on our Indonesian-in-Chief to provide the required weight in the Sunni-Shia balance of terror, needs must while Shaitan drives.
Once upon a time… There is a leave no fallen behind, never surrender so long as you can resist, etcetera, code in the military. There was one round of ammo kept in the ball on the top of the flagpole so there was always that one round left to resist with. This was done at the orders of the MGMMPOS to further embarass America in the world’s eyes.
Fifty-odd years ago we knew CIC Ike would bail us out if needed. God bless those who “go in harm’s today. They carry a double load, their duty and that road apple in D. C.
January 18, 2016 at 6:53 am
Bill G
One more part of Obola’s program to do as much damage to this nation as possible in the remaining time.
January 18, 2016 at 7:03 am
Cliff
Graphic.
January 18, 2016 at 7:12 am
eclark
Wonder what would be said and thought of the US presenting Iranian sailors that way? And making them read a statement? Bet there would be international “outrage”… at the US.
January 18, 2016 at 7:57 am
Pamela
Isn’t aiding and abetting the enemy considered a Treasonable Act.
Does Obama and Kerry telling them where our sailors and their boats were broke down rise to that level yet? Did they keep the boats with all our Tech and Secrets?
Remember in WWII the Pilots blowing the Norden bomb sights on their planes so the tech wouldn’t fall into the hands of the enemy? Fast Forward to 2016 and the I-i-C hand our people and it over.
And where wee the boats weapons to resist the attack? Where were the support ships? Was there available air cover? This was done by the DC cabal to embarass America.
The One, and progressives generally, see Western civilization as inherently evil, with themselves as the only “good” thing it ever produced, precisely because they “have the courage” to hate it. This is the only form of “courage” they recognize as being “good”.
The U.S. military comes in for their especial loathing, as in their minds it is the instrument of “oppression” of other more enlightened and “mystical” cultures. Which they define as superior and morally perfect. Like…Islam.
As such, any opportunity they see to destroy the morale and the actual operational capability of the U.S. military will be exploited. Like putting women in functions which require physical prowess they do not possess. (Sorry, ladies, but facts are facts.)
This was a perfect example. Send a unit in harm’s way with orders and RoE that virtually guarantees its capture or destruction, let it be captured, grovel to get the unit returned after being publicly “shamed” by the enemy, then pretend that it was “all a big misunderstanding” caused by those “uniformed fools” who can’t possibly be “smart” because they didn’t go to law school liker the SecState. Who Is The Second Smartest Man Who Ever Lived (since he dare not claim to be smarter than The One).
In short, an auto-da-fe’ created by the POTUS and his minions.
Their endgame is a military like most European ones, which are basically considered laboratories for “social engineering” by the EU. (“We can make people live in the same room with gays, drug addicts, and other ‘enlightened’ people, accede to their demands on all subjects, and like it. After all, they have to obey our orders.”)
As for “defending the country”- the don’t believe it deserves to be defended. Except for themselves, and they have the Secret Service, etc., to do that.
It all is easily understood once you comprehend the mindset behind it. No, it is not right. But it is very real.
And when they tell you how much they “love” this country, the military, or you as a citizen- they are lying through their teeth.
The only things they love are themselves.
clear ether
eon
January 18, 2016 at 10:46 am
GWB
progressives generally, see Western civilization as inherently evil, with themselves as the only “good” thing it ever produced, precisely because they “have the courage” to hate it.
Not quite, eon. Though there are plenty of actual haters, the attitude arises from the progressive concept – even as good as Western Civ is, it’s only a step on the way to utopia. So, naturally they despise it, as we have to leave it behind to achieve their vision of perfection. Progress is the ends, not the means.
This *does* lead them to hate us, though. Because we stand in their way. “We” being those who think Western Civ pretty much is as good as it gets. It’s not supposed to be hate – but they honestly can’t keep it to merely-looking-down-their-noses. The longer Western Civ hangs on, the more frustrated they grow, and the more their hate builds.
The destruction of our country isn’t a goal – not really. It’s merely a necessary step – because we stand in their way – to that utopia, where there are no nations, there is no god (except them), there is no resistance. If we would just stop impeding this progress then we could go gently into that good night.
Lan astaslem
(That isn’t written nearly as coherently as yours, but I haven’t had breakfast, yet.)
Somebody said there is a separation of sexual/emotional love for mussies.
But for our 0 who leads from his knees I think they’re inextricable.
January 18, 2016 at 10:09 am
derfel cadarn
EXACTLY !
January 18, 2016 at 10:32 am
Spin Drift
I wonder what would have happened if the female sailor had not surrendered, had not knelt down, had not worn the bag? How does that play out? Do the Iranians beat her? Do the Iranians kill her? Do the Iranians torture her? If any of this happens do her shipmates object? What’s the response of our government? Crying?
If she survives, is she court-martialed for failing to obey orders to surrender. I believe that the UCMJ allows for an able bodied seaman to not honor an unlawful order. Is an order to surrender to a country you are not at war with legal? Is being forced/ordered to wear a piece of non authorized clothing legal?
The failure here is at the captains of the ships and the chain of command above that. The only ones who know for real were on the boats and they will talk, eventually. Most likely another movie like 13 hours.
Spin
“Give me a fast ship ‘fore I plan to go in harms way.”
Scenario one; Two Navy boats each with two engines and GPS plus comm systems have widespread mechanical and electronic failures that render them helpless and drift into enemy waters.
Scenario two; Larger and faster Iranian warships overtake and capture two river patrol boats at sea and under their guns board and film humiliating propaganda plus examine and remove key crypto and comm gear from the US Navy boat. In response to which the CIC of the US Armed Forces bends over, again.
Which do you believe?
January 18, 2016 at 5:10 pm
Otto Didact
Per Matt Bracken: scenatio 2.
January 18, 2016 at 7:26 pm
Pamela
So how did two boats break down with the same problems at the same time? Did some enterprising person sell our guys out? Do a little jammer jammer to get the goods?
OK you guys got me. Make me feel stupid. What does MGMMPOS mean? It is not obvious to this old Phart, but I also realize that that is its purpose, to separate the young from the old.
Right there with ya OCB, although I’m sure muzzie piece of shit is involved. As a fellow old fart who doesn’t give a shit, I’d just as soon say it right out.
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Is this a mind bleach, or zofran for nausea or tequila to kill the pain moment? I think all three.
Listen, some people pay big money to service their masochism fetish.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-to-pay-iran-dollar17-bn-in-debt-and-interest-kerry/ar-BBoiXfd?li=BBnb7Kz
OPM, that is.
Seizing the boats had nothing to do with America. It was done to send a message to Saudi Arabia. Not even the Americans can protect the Saudis.
You’ve GOT to be Joshing me. You can’t be in Earnest (ugh. that brings up another mind bleach image).
There’s a lot more to this Iran/USNavy incident then we’re being told. Matt Bracken (posted on Western Rifle Shooters) has brought up some good questions that we’re likely to not find answers to for another 50 years.
“No reason to be embarrassed.”
Only if you’re a DemonRat with no sense of self worth or national pride. In other words, the attitude of a typical Prog Libtard.
I was an Airborne Infantryman. I was a Top Team Sniper in the 18th Airborne Corps ( not “Corpse” as the POS in the White House called it ), and an aggressive, mission oriented bastard who would die in place before embarrassing my nation, my unit, or my bothers, because mission first, men always. You kill the other bastard for his country, because we represent the moral high ground, and the last great hope for the world. If I was on my knees, it gave me the best opportunity to allow the other bastard to die for his country. Obama is not my president, and not my CIC.
I know smart capable young men who are delaying entering the military because they do not want Obama as their CIC.
Would you ??
Mr. Earnest ( so frikkin’ ironically named) is like every other Obama official. You can tell when they’re lying, cuz their lips are flappin’.
Josh Earnest, now the buggers have names straight from an Ayn Rand novel
I retired from the Sub force.
I am beyond angry at this situation.
Lots of fault to go around here.
Considering how the Israelis regard a nuclear-armed Iran, might this not be the time for the House of Saud to drop the pretenses and make formal alliance with the far more effectively nuclear-armed Sabras?
If there’s no counting on our Indonesian-in-Chief to provide the required weight in the Sunni-Shia balance of terror, needs must while Shaitan drives.
Once upon a time… There is a leave no fallen behind, never surrender so long as you can resist, etcetera, code in the military. There was one round of ammo kept in the ball on the top of the flagpole so there was always that one round left to resist with. This was done at the orders of the MGMMPOS to further embarass America in the world’s eyes.
Fifty-odd years ago we knew CIC Ike would bail us out if needed. God bless those who “go in harm’s today. They carry a double load, their duty and that road apple in D. C.
One more part of Obola’s program to do as much damage to this nation as possible in the remaining time.
Graphic.
Wonder what would be said and thought of the US presenting Iranian sailors that way? And making them read a statement? Bet there would be international “outrage”… at the US.
Isn’t aiding and abetting the enemy considered a Treasonable Act.
Does Obama and Kerry telling them where our sailors and their boats were broke down rise to that level yet? Did they keep the boats with all our Tech and Secrets?
Remember in WWII the Pilots blowing the Norden bomb sights on their planes so the tech wouldn’t fall into the hands of the enemy? Fast Forward to 2016 and the I-i-C hand our people and it over.
And where wee the boats weapons to resist the attack? Where were the support ships? Was there available air cover? This was done by the DC cabal to embarass America.
“were the boats…”
The One, and progressives generally, see Western civilization as inherently evil, with themselves as the only “good” thing it ever produced, precisely because they “have the courage” to hate it. This is the only form of “courage” they recognize as being “good”.
The U.S. military comes in for their especial loathing, as in their minds it is the instrument of “oppression” of other more enlightened and “mystical” cultures. Which they define as superior and morally perfect. Like…Islam.
As such, any opportunity they see to destroy the morale and the actual operational capability of the U.S. military will be exploited. Like putting women in functions which require physical prowess they do not possess. (Sorry, ladies, but facts are facts.)
This was a perfect example. Send a unit in harm’s way with orders and RoE that virtually guarantees its capture or destruction, let it be captured, grovel to get the unit returned after being publicly “shamed” by the enemy, then pretend that it was “all a big misunderstanding” caused by those “uniformed fools” who can’t possibly be “smart” because they didn’t go to law school liker the SecState. Who Is The Second Smartest Man Who Ever Lived (since he dare not claim to be smarter than The One).
In short, an auto-da-fe’ created by the POTUS and his minions.
Their endgame is a military like most European ones, which are basically considered laboratories for “social engineering” by the EU. (“We can make people live in the same room with gays, drug addicts, and other ‘enlightened’ people, accede to their demands on all subjects, and like it. After all, they have to obey our orders.”)
As for “defending the country”- the don’t believe it deserves to be defended. Except for themselves, and they have the Secret Service, etc., to do that.
It all is easily understood once you comprehend the mindset behind it. No, it is not right. But it is very real.
And when they tell you how much they “love” this country, the military, or you as a citizen- they are lying through their teeth.
The only things they love are themselves.
clear ether
eon
Not quite, eon. Though there are plenty of actual haters, the attitude arises from the progressive concept – even as good as Western Civ is, it’s only a step on the way to utopia. So, naturally they despise it, as we have to leave it behind to achieve their vision of perfection. Progress is the ends, not the means.
This *does* lead them to hate us, though. Because we stand in their way. “We” being those who think Western Civ pretty much is as good as it gets. It’s not supposed to be hate – but they honestly can’t keep it to merely-looking-down-their-noses. The longer Western Civ hangs on, the more frustrated they grow, and the more their hate builds.
The destruction of our country isn’t a goal – not really. It’s merely a necessary step – because we stand in their way – to that utopia, where there are no nations, there is no god (except them), there is no resistance. If we would just stop impeding this progress then we could go gently into that good night.
Lan astaslem
(That isn’t written nearly as coherently as yours, but I haven’t had breakfast, yet.)
perfectly said Eon
“The only things they love are themselves.”
And that/those for/to which grovel.
Somebody said there is a separation of sexual/emotional love for mussies.
But for our 0 who leads from his knees I think they’re inextricable.
EXACTLY !
I wonder what would have happened if the female sailor had not surrendered, had not knelt down, had not worn the bag? How does that play out? Do the Iranians beat her? Do the Iranians kill her? Do the Iranians torture her? If any of this happens do her shipmates object? What’s the response of our government? Crying?
If she survives, is she court-martialed for failing to obey orders to surrender. I believe that the UCMJ allows for an able bodied seaman to not honor an unlawful order. Is an order to surrender to a country you are not at war with legal? Is being forced/ordered to wear a piece of non authorized clothing legal?
The failure here is at the captains of the ships and the chain of command above that. The only ones who know for real were on the boats and they will talk, eventually. Most likely another movie like 13 hours.
Spin
“Give me a fast ship ‘fore I plan to go in harms way.”
Scenario one; Two Navy boats each with two engines and GPS plus comm systems have widespread mechanical and electronic failures that render them helpless and drift into enemy waters.
Scenario two; Larger and faster Iranian warships overtake and capture two river patrol boats at sea and under their guns board and film humiliating propaganda plus examine and remove key crypto and comm gear from the US Navy boat. In response to which the CIC of the US Armed Forces bends over, again.
Which do you believe?
Per Matt Bracken: scenatio 2.
So how did two boats break down with the same problems at the same time? Did some enterprising person sell our guys out? Do a little jammer jammer to get the goods?
OK you guys got me. Make me feel stupid. What does MGMMPOS mean? It is not obvious to this old Phart, but I also realize that that is its purpose, to separate the young from the old.
Miserable Gay Marxist Muslim Piece Of Shit.
Right there with ya OCB, although I’m sure muzzie piece of shit is involved. As a fellow old fart who doesn’t give a shit, I’d just as soon say it right out.
Well there ya go…and from a fellow almost old fart too. 😉
Brutal: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/17/exclusive-linda-tripp-bill-had-affairs-with-thousands-of-women/
I don’t think Hillary was expecting to have to campaign in a post-Cosby world…