As Col. Cooper taught
“The first rule of a gunfight is bring a gun”
Chris, that strip was poetry.
The only people not carrying – besides Jan – are the tots. And probably Skye. And the hogs…
I’m sure that will change soon for Mari and Kiko.
Don’t mess with anyone at the ranch…
Skye used to carry but she’s progressive enough that she might have decided that was unnecessary.
While the kids might not “carry”, I’d be surprised if they didn’t have toy guns (like sensible children of ages past).
As to how to teach children about guns: buy a Cricket Rifle or similar youth-model single-shot .22 rifle. (For a girl you may want to make it distinctive; purple walnut stock, or multi-color wood laminate or such – you want them to feel a connection to their (special) gun.) Then tell them “this is YOUR gun. You can see it whenever you want, for as long as you want, but you must have mommy or daddy give it to you when you do.” You control access to the firearm, access to the ammunition, some Crickets come with a button key-lock in the action that you can close just by grabbing the stock, and you go over the Four Rules each time you hand the child the rifle.
What you end up with is child that views firearms with respect and interest, but doesn’t feel a need to sneak into mommy and daddy’s gun collection to curiously “play” with them in secret. If they were simply forbidden, that latter is exactly what would happen. Since they can handle the guns ad libitum but it’s a careful production when they do, it reinforces in their heads that carrying a firearm is a responsibility.
The thing is… if they’re truly libertarian, Jan’s choice to not carry would be accepted without question so long as Jan accepts the consequences of such.
I spelled libertarian with a lower case letter since the Libertarian Party can’t seem to keep from shooting itself in the foot, so to speak.
It seems to me that libertarians would be inclined to disagree with her if they damn well felt like it.
And Jan is surprised because…. ?
As I often explain to people:
Democrats and Republicans debate magazine size, concealed carry, silencers, etc.
Libertarians (small-“L”) and AnCaps debate whether individuals should be able to own nuclear weapons.
AnCaps? Vas ist?
AnCaps = AnarchoCapitalists
Yes, that’s a thing.
Similar or close to MinArchists? (Minimum Government Anarchists)
Libertarians (small-“L”) and AnCaps debate whether
individuals should be able to own nuclear weapons.
Logically, yes. Does the U.S. government have the authority to procure, deploy, and–if necessary–use nuclear weapons? If yes, whence did it derive that authority (read: “just power”)? From the people (read: “the
consent of the governed”) who delegated that authority to said government. Now, just because we delegate that authority to our government (read: “agent”) doesn’t mean that we relinquish that authority, any more than an artist who hires an agent to speak on his behalf in contractual matters relinquishes the authority to engage in his own negotiations if/when he becomes unhappy with said agent. Logically, then, we should retain the power to tell Uncle Sam to sit down and be quiet while we set up our own missile silos. I say “should” only because we all know that Uncle Sam is damned jealous of that authority which we delegated to him—and he’ll send his guys with guns to take back “his” toys and make examples of his masters (meaning, of course, we-uns), since HIS logic is a damned-sight more powerful than anybody elses logic!
Perhaps Dick the Butcher gave Falstaff some excellent advice in Act IV of Henry VI, Part II, hmmmm? : )
If you haven’t yet, I highly recommend buying yourself a copy of Robert A Heinlein’s The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress, with special attention to “Professor de la Paz”‘s political philosophy.
If you’ve never heard of it, it’s a nuts-and-bolts look at the inside of the American Revolution…set on a fictional Lunar penal colony with an intelligent super-computer. Good stuff!
And we debate over Nuclear weapons only because there aren’t bigger things to carry…………… 😉
Srsly, in Texas? On the frikkin’ BORDER? They’re NOT livin’ in Austin, fer Gawd’s sake!
Sam, Zed, Wade, Naomi, not sure ’bout ‘Toli, but flybois need belt-feds, anyhoo. The Sheriff, most of the clientele of the Club, more gunslingers than not. Works for me. And why NOT Libertarians? Non-initiation of force doesn’t mean be unprepared to return it, if necessary!
“Jan, Sweetie, I’m NOT patronizing you, but REALLY you need to get your mind wrapped around WHERE you are and WHAT the dangers are HERE and NOW!!”
Every woman worth her salt has that little black dress in the closet and a Beretta Storm holstered at her back.
Or holstered at her stockings.
If she’s totin’ a PX4 on her leg, that’s a big enough girl she wouldn’t even need it except under the direst circumstances…that ain’t no mouse gun.
Good firearms make for good neighbors
The man said NO border, not just southern.
From all sides and by all means it is an onslaught with a purpose.
For that to work, you must be disarmed. That is the plan…count on it.
Carry your pistol(s) for the unlikely one-on-one encounter, of course.
But stockpile two or more each of EBR’s and shotties and a case of food for each, for the onslaught.
The borders are a bad joke, lunatics are going bat-shit crazy wherever they see a “Gun-Free Zone” sign (which, to them, means, “Free-Fire Zone”), and Lil’ King Putt wants to import scores of thousands of “refugee” camoflage for ISIS jihadis…..
Yeah, if you’re not going heeled, then you’re either a pollyanna or an ostrich.
Missed responding yesterday.
Regarding the need to be a “property owner” requirement for voting. Too many people can’t afford to “own” their own housing these days.
I’d rather see the change to a taxpayer requirement before being able to vote.
Don’t pay fed taxes – can’t vote in federal elections. Don’t pay state taxes – can’t vote in state elections. Etc.
Only those whose money is getting spent should have a say in who gets to spend it.
That would put the kybosh on a whole bunch of crap spending right now.
Sm, FYI, that is sorta how it USED to be in Texas. Any registered voter could vote for who would hold public office but only property “owners” could vote in bond elections, school board elections and anything directly affecting property tax rates. But then things got more “democratic” and everybody got to vote on everything. At the time, being a good product of the education doctrination system I thought it was unfair to exclude someone from voting simply because they did not “own” property. Naturally, I also applauded the 17thA.
Then I grew up and WOKE up.
I would prefer people had to spend at least one 4 year enlistment time in the military or some sort of equivalent service before they get to vote. If you’re not willing to put your life on the line for the ability to say how things gets done your country then you should not have the right to make decisions about how things get done period. I spent ten years protecting this country willing to lay down my life for it. You try to take my vote away because I can’t afford some overpriced piece of land somewhere and someone is going to get put down like a rabid dog, property owner or not.
Ah, what to carry?
IIRC, Sam bought Skye a Beretta 3032 Tomcat back in the day.
Since Jan is converting, something more than a mousegun would be nice.
Smith M&P Storm 9 mm (for a starter – Sam and the guys would undoubtedly carry it in .40). Sig P320 Compact – 15 rounds of 9 mm goodness or 13 of .40/.357? If she wants to stay with a lighter caliber in a starter pistol, the Beretta Cheetah or Ruger LC380 might be a good choice.
And yes, for some reason the US and Western countries remain the only places that don’t need no stinkin’ borders.
The rest of the world is divided into those who think they can Kumbaya their way to Utopia, and those who seek to impose their definition of Utopia -for themselves– on everyone else by force.
The latter really appreciate the former’s help, intentional or otherwise.
When the homicidal Utopians set the house on fire, the Kumbayaers call the fire department.
The rest of the time, they don’t like to be reminded that fire will burn them, as Kipling said.
And no, they don’t believe the Gods of the Copybook Headings are real.
M&P45c if she wants something in a heavy-and-slow caliber.
Beretta Nano 9 mm if she wants style.
M&P Shield 9 mm if she wants compactness but doesn’t want the Nano.
Charter Arms Bulldog in .44 if she wants to go revolver in heavy-and-slow.
M&P Bodyguard .38 if she wants to go revolver with maximum compactness.
Some smallness of Sig or make of “Officer’s” 1911 if she likes the feel of steel.
Ahhh. . . The Gods of The Copybook Heading. Excellent material, Kipling at his finest. I’ve been hearing that lately from Glenn Beck. I need to download a copy.
Jerry Pournelle included it in one of his “There Will Be War” collections back in the 80’s. My copy is well worn and well read. He and Heinlein had the liberals pegged way back when.
Jan hasn’t realized that everyone at the DD carries? I guess they carry concealed very well.
“With no border, to speak your piece, you NEED a piece.”
Zed/Sam nailed it. Brief and pithy.
Speak your piece, or peace? Armed persons make for polite persons.
Another Heinlein reference; “Beyond This Horizon” (1948) is set in a future where everyone either goes heeled, or wears an armband showing that they’re unarmed. And hence that society was very polite to each other, when you had to back up your words with actions.
“An armed society is a polite society.” – R. A. Heinlein
Truer words have yet to be spoken.
Need to reread some Heinlein. I read a ton in middle school, my outlook is different now.
Re: the DD, it’s private property so I’d think OC would be the way to go. Carry big, carry 2+.
But all that totin’ will have blood running in the streets!
Only not. But you won’t read about it in the lamestream because narrative. And agenda.
As shown in the graphs, homicides by firearms have decreased in inverse proportion to the huge growth in per capita gun ownership -and concealed carry- during that period. That’s as close as you can come to “graphic” proof of the deterrent effect of an armed society. Molon Labe, baby.
IIRC when Florida began the shall-issue “revolt” in 1985 all the LSDs predicted rivers of blood in the street. All that happened was: in two years FL went from four points above the national average for violent crime to eight points below it. And the trend has continued ever since.
Anyone have insight on the Taurus Curve? I’m contemplating a Christ-Mass present for Mrs. Vader.
Have read conflicting reports. Positives include comfort, ease/speed of employment, and “concealability.” Negatives include aiming problems (no sights to speak of), finicky ammo tastes, and feed/extract/eject problems.
I’m interested, also, but believe I’ll wait a while and see how it matures.
I have heard too much negative about Taurus in general. Coulda gotten the wife a Taurus for roughly HALF what the Sig set us back. Figured my life-mate was worth it.
I think Taurus jumped the shark some on the Curve, trying to get some solve nonexistent problems and creating others in the process, so do some reading before you go that way.
That said, in the last 20 years I’ve probably sold a few thousand Taurus products. They have evolved over those years from knockoffs of S&W revolvers and Beretta pistols of medium quality and low price, to innovators (sometimes with mixed results like with the Curve and the Judge), and to the point where most of their guns are now equal to or exceed those venerable nameplates…and their price is still much lower (their version of the popular little plastic .380’s are equal to the Smith Bodyguard, Ruger LCP, etc. and can be had new for under 200), and they carry a lifetime warranty that has been awesome the few times I’ve used it.
Still, if you can and want to pay two to three times the price, I do love me some Sig Sauer products!
shit, “trying to get some attention and solve…”
I pack – concealed – a full size Glock .40 cal (hey! I’m a big guy!) as does my wife. She has a cute little Sig in .380auto. I even got her some pink grips. When she took her shooting test for the CHL, she scored 244/250 (97.6%). Shooting my Glock, I shot a measly 246/250 (98.4%). Come the first of the year I’m gonna pack openly. Yes, I expect to experience the pleasure of repeated Terry stops. In anticipation of same I will be carrying my CHL clipped to my belt.
she’s definitely going to need one of these… 😉
Thanks all. Carry for me is a Glock 36, with a Ruger LCP in summer wear. The Mrs. is mostly in dresses and skirts, and doesn’t want the weight of the .45 as a purse gun. So, I’ll probably get myself a 42 for summer carry and get her a couple of flashbang holsters for the Ruger.
Watching Fox News coverage of the San Bernardino shooting, the facts coming out don’t sound like the usual lone wolf crazy scenario. As many as THREE shooters, masked, wearing body armor, using long guns and TARGETING HANDICAPPED PEOPLE (!!!). Sounds to me a lot like the Paris attack. I seriously doubt that even if the shooters WERE Muzzies we will hear of it. My wife is watching one of the alphabet networks. I’d be surprised if there hasn’t already been speculation on the alphabet networks that the shooters were right-wing wing-nuts.
Dollars to donuts by supper time there will have been multiple calls for more gun control. The thought occurs to me . . . false flag?
As sickening as the thought is, considering the agenda and who/what is behind it, possible.
But more likely I think are the leftwingnuts who sympathize with the agenda and would be willing to sacrifice themselves and others to further it, and to get the recognition for themselves…a version of a suicide bomber. And thinking more about it, that’s exactly the way the muzbro operates; plan and inspire from on high that which the faithful and deranged are willing to fulfill. Terrorism is terrorism, regardless of the cause.
This is why I said yesterday to carry your handgun and prep your longguns.
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