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  • August 10, 2015 at 1:19 am

    Remains to be seen where this actually goes.

  • August 10, 2015 at 1:51 am
    NotYetInACamp

    As the SJW demands the delicate feelings of some be prioritized over the life or feelings of others in the name of equal treatment, so do they demand that women must never be offended or have their feelings hurt. They are trying to use women and their feelings allegedly being hurt as a weapon against people who tell the truth. If the person says something that could in the least way by any contortion of meaning possible be pinned on their target as being mean spirited, offensive, or any “bad” meaning, they will attack with vigor and blood may spurt from their eyes and nose. Language contortion, again, for the benefit of the cause. Truth has nothing to do with it, again.
    The ACLU explains why they take a stance against the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA). Their deputy legal director Melling argues that there is real harm done…to people’s feelings! “People turned away by an inn or bakery suffer the harm of being told that their kind isn’t welcome,” she writes.
    The quote was from a conservative Taiwan born American living in Hellish Taxachussetts. Good article.
    http://patriotupdate.com/the-new-liberalism-their-hurt-feelings-trump-your-constitutional-rights-2/

    A liberal friend of mine told her prize winning journalist husband that she would only watch the debate if Trump was in them, and then for entertainment value.

    This is the attempt to divide us even further so that issues and values disappear from consideration and punishment (Idiocracy’s Rehabilitation) becomes a network show.

    Idiocracy is one of my all time favorite movies. Again. The movie was not meant to be an instruction manual.

  • August 10, 2015 at 5:58 am
    Bill G

    If I was in a nasty mood, I’d suggest that Trump will only run on a third party platform if Hillary is nominated.
    That way he will be able to reap the benefits of being the sole reason she could win, and as admitted pay-for-play guy he’ll have made the payment and be sitting back waiting for the results.
    If he announces it will be a time to buy stock in his companies.

    • August 10, 2015 at 8:38 am
      nonncom

      I wouldn’t be surprised if that were the reason for the phone call from ol’ slick willy….”Get in there and shake things up on the Republican side….if they’re dumb enough to select you for their nominee, hillery’ll win….if not, just go third party, and hillery’ll win…either way, we’ll make sure to take care of you later”….this was, of course, before the self-destruction act hillery is performing….all of this is stated with a ton of skepticism, sprinkled liberally with sarcasm….Carly Fiarino and may well be the best the Republicans have to offer….can’t wait for the real war on women from the democrats….Ted Cruz stands out as well….

    • August 10, 2015 at 10:31 am
      DDS

      I suspect that’s the sole reason Trump is running: to guarantee a Demoncrat president in 2016 (whether Hildebeast or Bernie the Commie) by going “third party,” a la Ross Perot. He has always supported liberal policies and politicians, and only recently put on a populist, faux-conservative veneer to attract the angry, low-information, right-leaning voters. He only needs to pull a few percentage points from the Republican candidate to swing the election to the Dims.

      • August 10, 2015 at 1:57 pm
        Ming the Merciless

        Sarah Palin Just Uncovered The Real Reason Trump Is Dominating The Polls (The Media Hates It)…Western Journalism:
        Donald Trump is leading in the polls because he speaks for working class voters, according to a Breitbart column by Sarah Palin.

        “Trump has tapped into America’s great populist tradition by speaking to concerns of working class voters,” Palin wrote. “He talks about fighting to bring back our factories. When was the last time a candidate talked passionately about reclaiming our manufacturing base (and knew what he was talking about)?”

        Not everyone agrees. GOP presidential hopeful Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., blamed the media for Trump’s rise in the polls to the point where he is the Republican front-runner.

        “If I had a billion dollars’ worth of advertising and every network going gaga over that, I think we could get our (poll numbers) to rise also,” Paul told CNN. Paul also said he expected that the “temporary loss of sanity” over Trump would be short-lived and that eventually more serious candidates would rise to the top.”

        “It’s no surprise pundits and politicos are determined to destroy a candidacy they can’t control or shape with their mere words,” Palin wrote. “Expect marginalization of anyone speaking well of Trump’s efforts. He’s a threat to the permanent political class.”

        Palin’s piece emphasizes repeatedly that Trump is the lone candidate talking about the issues that truly matter to the American people. He takes stands that are in line with what they wish the leader of their country would do, she wrote.

        “Trump focused in on two major populist grievances: the loss of working class jobs due to awful trade agreements, and the unfair competition for those jobs – along with security threats – due to the flood of illegal immigrants pouring across unsecured borders,” she wrote.

        Further, she said, Trump stands out from the crowd.

        “Trump’s unconventional candidacy is a shot in the arm for ordinary Americans fed up with the predictable poll tested blather of squishy milquetoast career politicians who campaign one way and govern another,” she wrote.

        Beside, them damn Pauliacs are the stooges of Conquering Islam…the
        surrender party if there ever was one!

    • August 10, 2015 at 1:53 pm
      Erik

      I’m surprised more people haven’t caught on to this. He’s a long-time friend of the Clintons. The only thing that could keep him from playing spoiler is if he actually gets a shot at winning – then I think his ego will override his friendship. But it doesn’t really matter. Bush, Clinton, Trump – the same politically-connected fat cats win regardless of who gets the elaborate government-subsidized housing at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., and the rest of us get the bill.

      • August 10, 2015 at 8:41 pm
        Evan3457

        This.

  • August 10, 2015 at 6:17 am
    Paladin

    As Angelo Codevilla wrote about the “Ruling Class vs the Country Class” they are the two sides of the same coin. They will give us a choice of Hillary vs Jeb. For them, it doesn’t matter who wins. I for one will not vote for another RINO. I did not stay home like many Republicans did when given the Choice of Mitt vs Obama. The only reason I voted for McCain was Sarah Palin. If it comes down to, and I think it will, of Hillary, Jeb, and Trump as an Independent. I’ll vote Trump. Sure, he will screw up this country, but in a different way than Hillary or Jeb will. And it will be HUGE!

    • August 10, 2015 at 9:14 am
      Desert Lion

      Every four years since the end of the Reagan administration, someone trots out this tired and self-righteous argument. “I refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils, because the lesser of two evils is still EVIL!” Seriously? The arrogance of one person thinking that they will “send a message” by joining with a few others to ensure the enemies of liberty win simply boggles the mind.

      People, this isn’t about a campaign, an election, or who is in the White House. All of those are but symptoms. The core problem is a fundamental shift in what people believe to be important. The Founders were very clear about what they thought was important. Had they not codified it in our founding documents, liberty would have long ago been buried here as it has been in most other places around the world. We have rested on their sacrifices far too long and are now paying the price. That our inheritance has lasted this long can only be attributed to its original value because recent generations have squandered it.

      Don’t assume that means I think we should give up. We need instead to wake up, and wake others up as well. I know I’m preaching to the choir a bit because most here are already awake. Being awake isn’t enough, and it’s far too late for most of our generation who isn’t already awake. Most of the dictators who have overthrown free peoples have done so by co-opting the youngest generation and being patient. Schools become indoctrination centers where the most malleable are programmed to support the new regime. The vast majority of children in this country still attend the government indoctrination centers, aka public schools, for most of their young lives. How many here have worked to change what happens there? Do you pay attention to school board elections and either get on the board yourself or support candidates who will turn the systems around? If not, maybe it’s time to consider it. Home schooling is a great start, but only affects one family unit. Changing what happens in public school is much more difficult and a much greater sacrifice, but also affects the whole community. They then take that solid foundation with them to college where the next generation of teachers are created. That’s how the progressives have incrementally taken over the system, and it’s the only way we can take it back.

      It has taken over a century of dedicated, patient work to get this country to the brink of destruction where we are now. I’d like to think that we’re not yet fully over the cliff where destruction of liberty is inevitable. Maybe that’s wishful thinking, but it’s the only option that gives any hope whatever. My fight here is well past its peak, but it will continue as long as above me is sky, not dirt. Even so, I will likely not see the restoration of liberty in the form our Founders intended, but perhaps my daughter, or granddaughters, or their children, will. Expect it to take that long and prepare for the marathon. I will grant that the ability to sustain the battle for years is irrelevant if we lose the war in the next election, so don’t focus so completely on the long objective that we break our legs on the boulders in the path.

      Elections have consequences, and we have too often suffered the immediate and painful consequences of not voting wisely. Doing so means taking the long view, dispensing with the arrogance and futility of a pyrrhic victory for the sake of making a point. Take a lesson from one of the most famous such cases in recent memory – Ross Perot. Do whatever possible to ensure the primary season results in a candidate you can vote for instead of being stuck with simply voting against something worse. However, the general election is too late to be making statements. If you can’t fully support the candidate and his or her platform, vote to limit the damage for the long term.

      The lesser of two evils is still LESSER. Vote Wisely.

      • August 10, 2015 at 11:41 am
        Bad Cyborg

        Haven’t you figured it out yet? It does not matter who the likes of us vote for. The people who cast the vote decide nothing. The person our political masters have likely already decided will win come 8 November, ’16 and schmucks like us have no say in the matter. I plan to be camping above 7,000 ft in the Gila National Forest on that date and don’t plan to come down until I run out of food and water and HAVE TO. Don’t reckon I’ll find much to like about the result whomever wins (and remember, folks, most of had hardly heard of the Kenyan by this time in the ought eight election cycle either). I suspect that if we were to fast forward to this time a year from now we might be surprised at how things had shaken themselves out.

      • August 10, 2015 at 1:52 pm
        Desert Lion

        No, I haven’t figured that out and don’t believe it either. That sort of fatalistic attitude is part of what’s wrong with today’s politics. There would be no United States of America if the Founders had that attitude. “The king is just going to do what kings do. There’s no point in us doing anything. I’m just heading for the mountains with my musket until it’s all over.”

        I’m glad to see that 24M people watched the prime time debate, and a pretty fair number watched the happy hour debate. That certainly shows a high level of interest in next year’s elections when it’s rare for anyone to get any attention at all before autumn. This is the time to get involved – wait until after the primary elections have started and it’s too late. Maybe that’s why you feel like it doesn’t matter, that you have no say in the matter.

        Yes, I’m sure we will all be surprised by how things stand in a year from now. I’m doing all I can to ensure it’s a pleasant surprise for a change. Enjoy your camping trip.

  • August 10, 2015 at 6:43 am
    Pamela

    Oh sod it. Fornicate Feelings. We’ve been woosified all in the name of feelings. Feelings will not pull us out of the hole (grave) we’ve dug for ourselves. Don’t want your little feelings hurt, grow a thicker hide.
    Get Over It.
    The Left wants all forms of Depravity accepted in the name of Feelings.
    That’s the end game. That and total dominion over all.

  • August 10, 2015 at 8:13 am
    Desert Lion

    I guess I’m going to have to slog through the whole debate night again when I have time. For this meme to be trotted out yet again, I can only conclude that I must have missed something. From the first time through, I certainly didn’t get the whole feelings thing or that there was any sense of anyone with a thin skin.

    Well, anyone besides Trump, that is. He certainly reacted instead of responding to pretty much all questions and challenges. In fact, he’s been doing it all weekend – attacking people, not issues. The more he protests, the less he seems to have anything backing all those solutions he keeps promising but not describing in any detail. Most of them don’t even have a “what” behind them, much less “how.” I sincerely hope he gets it together and starts dealing with the questions being asked instead of just pushing back against them and making it all personal. This really needs to be a campaign about issues; there are more than enough that need to be addressed. It will get personal soon enough anyway when the party of the thin-skinned feeler-in-chief starts throwing bombs.

    • August 10, 2015 at 8:25 am
      steveb919

      The questions that the so called moderators asked had nothing to do with politics. They had to do with bashing Trump and make him look bad. They should be banned.

      • August 10, 2015 at 8:46 am
        nonncom

        Trump should’ve been sharp enough to overcome that…he made it a school yard brawl and continues to do so, instead of letting it dry up and blow away…it would be good to hear exactly how he intends to do the things he says he wants to do, instead of cracks about Rosie O’Donnell…Megyn Kelly was a giggling little girl, who clearly was pissed at Trump’s response, but “the Don” could’ve handled it with some class…

      • August 10, 2015 at 11:43 am
        Bad Cyborg

        Class? The Donald? Shirley!

    • August 10, 2015 at 11:30 am

      If there was any real interest in or intent to determine the plans and platforms of these wannabes, they would dispense with the pulpits and the panel and seat them at a round table, give each nothing but a pen and legal pad, and have them take turns stating what the first 100 days of their administration would bring. There would be a rotating camera in the middle, focused on the face and eyes of the speaker, and a timer that would cut the speaker’s mike at the 3-minute mark, switching both to the next speaker.

      While one is speaking the others would take notes, then in the second round they would comment on or refute statements of others, clarify or reinforce their own. Then a third round of the same, and fourth and a fifth…all with no scripts and no interruptions. By that time each will have had enough time and rope to hang himself or pull himself up, and we would have a chance to see and hear their real thoughts and beliefs and plans and character.

      That would be an actual debate, which would probably weed several pretenders in the minds of voters. Have another identical session in three months, and another three months after that. I’m betting at that point there would be a pretty good consensus of which if any of these people we want to try to undo the damage of the last decades and plot a plan of action to reclaim America’s domestic greatness here at home and global power/standing in the world, and rebuild our Constitutional Republic.

      Never gonna happen.

  • August 10, 2015 at 8:46 am
    Paladin

    I was at the Cruz rally in Huntsville, AL last night. The 1st question asked of him, by a plant in my opinion. “If you defund Planed Parenthood, and repeal Obamacare, How are single women saposto get healthcare?” Lady government is not here to provide you with healthcare, it’s to insure your “LIBERTY”. With Liberty, you can provide your own healthcare. She is willing to vote away her Liberty to get “Free Stuff”, all within her right. However she is willing to vote away My Liberty. Unfortunately, I didn’t get that response to her together, until my drive home.

    • August 10, 2015 at 8:48 am
      nonncom

      “Those who would give up their liberty for safety and security deserve neither”…

      • August 10, 2015 at 5:03 pm
        John Greer

        The same could be said for those who would give up their Liberty for the ever-evasive “Equality” as the liberals would have it.

  • August 10, 2015 at 8:51 am

    Headline for pubs and dims alike should read:

    “Trump Trumps Trump.”

    For both sides, and even the metastasizing murky middle, Trump the Reality Show takes precedence over Trump the Candidacy. Were the words “economy” and “war” even mentioned in that episode…I mean debate?

    And that is to the benefit of the ‘tards who want more than anything to avoid the disasters that they have wrought, and all Donald cares about is the spotlight and his name on the tongues of all. Guess who gets the shaft?

    • August 10, 2015 at 2:06 pm
      Ming the Merciless

      Trump is the only one standing up…ALL the others are disgusting weasels…just look at them and their constant surrender…Who beside Trump want to close the border and repatriate jobs…OK you fucker dont care, but every Tom, Dick and Harry does and are sick of you ideological pundits…

      • August 10, 2015 at 2:08 pm
        Ming the Merciless

        What are the differences between an anarchist-lefty and a libertard pauliac?
        Same bloviating assholes bleating “settled science” nonsense…

      • August 10, 2015 at 3:25 pm

        What’s the difference between an Obamite and a Trumpette?

        Nothing. They’re both blinded and fooled by a beaming face and a big mouth.

      • August 10, 2015 at 6:24 pm
        Pamela

        I thought it depended on which team they bat for…

      • August 10, 2015 at 8:46 pm
        Ming the Merciless

        heartiste.wordpress.com:
        “I hate like the gates of Hades the man who says one thing and holds another in his heart.” Achilles Iliad 9.314.

        To hate your enemies is as natural as to love your friends. Trump is doing things no cuckservative shitheel has done in ages: He is drawing battle lines, and proudly putting his enemies on notice. This is why he polls so high. The nation yearns for a leader with a pair. It’s been too long since the people’s representative was anything other than a soundbite dribbling, deflated scrote.

        Trump does not back down when the Hivemind swarms. There’s another lesson there for the mass of sniveling beta males.

        “For all of the people who were looking forward to Mr. Trump coming, we will miss you,” [Trump’s] campaign said. “Blame Erick Erickson, your weak and pathetic leader.”

  • August 10, 2015 at 9:40 am
    Snafu F. Ubar

    Strategically positioned illegals plus that Secretary of State project plus this instruction: “Vote Democrat or you’ll be deported” equals checkmate against the republicans.

    Throw in that: “won’t vote for the lesser of two evils (gift to the enemies of Liberty)” manipulation of conservative voters, and we have a whole lot of work ahead of us.

    If our army could do Valley Forge, what can we refuse to do now to preserve life and liberty and the Declaration and the Constitution?

    The tryannists are where they are now through 100+ years of outright lies. It’s what they are, it’s what they have ever been, it’s all they have.

    The tryannists are very vulnerable to serious sacrificial truthful attack.

    They know this.

  • August 10, 2015 at 11:09 am
    DDS

    Dreaming: Carly and Crus, or Crus and Carly? Being a old traditionalist, I think the guy should be on top (of the ticket, you sex-obsessed DBDers!) and Ted has a LOT more relevant experience than the Commiedor-in-Chief ever had for the job. As a Constitutional lawyer and Senator, he has a solid, consistent conservative record. And being potentially the “first Hispanic POTUS” will help to attract some of those who want to “make history.” I think Carly will make a great Veep, but doesn’t have the broad appeal (no pun intended) to win the presidency. She could run in 2024 after two Cruz terms, when she will be only a year older than the Hildabeast is now (and a lot better looking!).

    • August 10, 2015 at 11:10 am
      DDS

      Cruz, Cruz, Cruz!!! I was dreaming, OK!

    • August 10, 2015 at 6:29 pm
      Pamela

      DDS- Instead of Cruz or Carly, try Carly or Hilly.
      Who would you rather dream of sleeping au naturale at 1600?

  • August 10, 2015 at 12:47 pm
    GFM

    Heaven forbid!

    Trump was asked about comments he made; then, he was given a forum to respond to them. Oh the audacity.

    Then he gets mad at the question, the questioner and mangles his opportunity to respond? And, responds to the whole thing with insults?

    If this is the best way he manages a debate, how’s he going to manage foreign leaders and domestic policy?

    • August 10, 2015 at 2:12 pm
      Ming the Merciless

      He took names and kicked ass…which is far more than the boner’s weasels ever did…

  • August 10, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    As I’ve said, and as Trumpy knows better than anyone, all PR is good PR:

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-first-post-debate-poll-still-gives-donald-trump-a-commanding-lead/ar-BBlC4jn?ocid=mailsignout

    The best part is that the MSM just cannot fathom it:

    “Despite a critically shaky debate performance and a fresh round of controversy, real-estate magnate Donald Trump still leads the Republican presidential field, according to a new poll.”

    Heh.

  • August 10, 2015 at 9:48 pm
    NotYetInACamp

    Trump has looked like the New President when compared to the President Comachos at the podium. He has had the ideas that they should use toilet water.
    The responses of laughing and saying it is toilet water do not cut it.

    We must find the measure of the man Trump. We must find out before it is too late. We must find out who he is so that we have time to help him, or to stop him.
    Would that the others would even broach the truths as Trump has PC is not for the USA now.
    http://www.wnd.com/files/2015/08/morning-consult-poll-2015-aug-9.jpg

  • August 10, 2015 at 9:57 pm
    Joel

    Someone said the one who is still being talked about three days after a debate is the winner despite the performance. Trumpmania lasted more than three days. Trump won.

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