Personally, I prefer the ocarina version of the march.
Pete in NC
Jun 03 2016 at 7:25 pm
Perfect!
Chris Muir
Jun 02 2016 at 10:33 pm
Thanks to H_B!
H_B
Jun 03 2016 at 3:50 am
Yay \o/. My second strip-inspiration.
Morgul Lord
Jun 02 2016 at 10:38 pm
The cartoon, sadly, is an insult to Lord Vader
eon
Jun 02 2016 at 10:45 pm
The One is more like Count Dooku aka Darth Sidious. Never “good”, corrupt to his core, an egotistical narcissist with a bad case of prissiness, and not nearly as smart as he imagines himself to be.
I second the notion that Vader is an improper image. Vader was redeemable.
Bill G
Jun 03 2016 at 5:57 am
Trump’s ground game is to ignore Political Correctness. The outrageous things he says keeps the media spotlight on him and encourages all the folks who have hated that this insanity is replacing common courtesy.
The Instapundit’s May 31st column in USAToday (of all places) says it’s a major part of Trump’s success.
eon
Jun 03 2016 at 7:25 am
Hence the parallel to Roderick Kinnison. I doubt Rod the Rock would be capable of anything approaching “political correctness”, either verbally or on the Lens. As Mase Northrup said, first he’d start talking, then he’d add in the Lens, and by the end he’d be yelling as well as thinking.
Anyone familiar with the First Historian’s work would understand the difference between a power-hungry demagogue (Like Senator Morgan or a certain ex-Senator and SecState), and someone who believes in their cause passionately and just doesn’t care what the opposition thinks (Rod the Rock or DT).
Another point of contact is that Morgan & Co.’s backers (like Isaacson and Towne) wanted a “One Galaxy” form of government, under their control, both economically and politically. Rod pointed out (when Isaacson tried to bribe Virgil Samms) that there was plenty of precedent for it, going back to the Royal East India Company and before that the Hanseatic League. Samms replied that what they wanted was a form of slavery that would set Civilization back a thousand years.
We face the same choice today. Consider how this lot admires the “new, capitalist” Red China. Then consider that China’s form of government, an oligarchy with total control of everything, by nationalization or simple force, has not changed in three millennia, regardless of the titles and ostensible “philosophy” of the rulers. (It has been said that in changing from Imperial rule to Communism, all China did was change from a group of irrational, brutal, and often-homicidal autocrats with poor fashion sense, to another such group with even worse fashion sense.)
There’s another parallel, as well. The Democrats (like Morgan’s crowd) are the ones trying to win with violence and intimidation. I suspect it is only a matter of (a rather short) time before they move from mere “intimidation” to bomb, bullet, and blade.
It’s all they know, ultimately. And after all, they enjoy it.
clear ether
eon
MasterDiver
Jun 03 2016 at 7:29 am
Great post eon!
And like Rod the Rock’s opponent, Obama should have been impeached the day HE was inaugurated!
Zar Belk!
eon
Jun 03 2016 at 10:22 am
Indeed. The One has always reminded me more of that nincompoop Witherspoon than his boss, Morgan.
Dictators, like managers, seek to multiply toadies, not competitors for power. Hillary made a colossal error with The One eight years ago. She can’t really afford any now.
I expect that DT will capitalize on this. The opposition does not yet understand that, like Kinnison, he isn’t going to play by their rules, which inevitably end in them winning.
Once they do, I expect things to turn ugly very quickly. As in “South American Caudillo Election” ugly.
“There’s another parallel, as well. The Democrats (like Morgan’s crowd) are the ones trying to win with violence and intimidation. I suspect it is only a matter of (a rather short) time before they move from mere “intimidation” to bomb, bullet, and blade.
It’s all they know, ultimately. And after all, they enjoy it.”
As the feces begins hitting the fan in America as opposed to Cali, I’m thinking their enjoyment might get…diminished rather quickly.
And was that an actual accurately reported piece by WaPo? WTF?
H_B
Jun 03 2016 at 12:33 pm
“Then consider that China’s form of government, an oligarchy with total control of everything, by nationalization or simple force, has not changed in three millennia, regardless of the titles and ostensible “philosophy” of the rulers.”
So often left unsaid. Thank you, eon.
It’s not one particular policy or set of laws that’s holding China back (and twisting their current “emergence” into a Potemkin Economy), it’s the base culture. I’ve had Chinese nationals wax passionately to me about how China invented gun powder, the compass, the steam engine, the clock, the printing press, et cetera; and all I can think through their diatribes is “how embarrassing”. Someone can invent something in that culture, and it just gets buried and has no effect whatsoever. The main focus of human endeavor in China is increasing one’s Face by fooling competitors and business partners in some way – hence all the endemic corruption and shoddy manufacturing practices.
That’s not going to change so long as the base culture remains the same, and the base culture isn’t going to change so long as the pictographic writing script codifying that culture, imposed by First Emperor Chin two and a quarter millenia ago, remains the medium of communication and thought.
B Woodman
Jun 03 2016 at 3:05 pm
H_B,
Next time a Chinese national waxes poetic about China’s inventions and accomplishments (which I agree with – read Gavin Menzies’ books, 1421 and 1434. the evidence is circumstantial, but strong and compelling), ask them why they aren’t ruling the world? They had a strong opportunity to, long before Prince Henry the Navigator and Columbus; but they chose to implode and seclude themselves instead.
H_B
Jun 03 2016 at 6:50 pm
That’s exactly my point. When the British first opened diplomatic relations with China, the Chinese ambassadors insisted they meet in a yurt – because that was the kind of hut “barbarians” lived in anyway. The British brought a cannon with them and presented it to the ambassadors with an offer to provide more European cannons. The Chinese sniffed that the device was grossly inferior to cannons of Chinese manufacture.
After blasting their way past the fixed, non-traversable cannons of the Bogue Forts and sacking the Beijing Summer Palace in the 1860, the British found that meager field piece (superior to the antiquated devices the Chinese had fought with, but more than a century out of date compared to what the British and French brought with them) in a room for the Chinese court to point and laugh at.
Pete in NC
Jun 03 2016 at 7:30 pm
“(It has been said that in changing from Imperial rule to Communism, all China did was change from a group of irrational, brutal, and often-homicidal autocrats with poor fashion sense, to another such group with even worse fashion sense.)” If I hadn’t been following Rule # 1 of DbD blog reading (never with your mouth full) you, sir, would owe me a new keyboard! 😎
Jon
Jun 03 2016 at 5:15 pm
Lord Teflon Camel-Toe has spoken!
Pamela
Jun 03 2016 at 5:44 pm
How can he speak? It’s not only bent and forked, it’s twisted ,
H_B
Jun 03 2016 at 6:52 pm
I love this group of commenters. Chris puts up a Star Wars strip, and everyone talks about Lensman.
eon
Jun 03 2016 at 8:03 pm
Without the Wearers of the Lens there wouldn’t be a Star Wars, or Star Trek. Edward Elmer Smith, Ph.D (Org Chem) basically invented “space opera”, even more than Edmond Hamilton.
Without “Doc” there would be no warp drive, transwarp conduits (“hyper-spatial tubes” in Doc’s parlance), impulse engines, antimatter power (“negative matter” and “exotic matter”), deflector shields, blasters, “phaser banks” (“primaries”), torpedoes, wall-shields, universal translators, or superintelligent, highly logical and pacifistic aliens. The Vulcans owe a great deal to Tregonsee of Rigel IV and Nadreck of Palain VII, to say nothing of Worsel of Velantia; when Worsel says to LaVerne Thorndyke, “I have been thinking. I have been thinking about thought”, you can almost see Spock’s eyebrow elevate.
Doc created the idea of not a “space patrol”, but a Galactic Patrol that served not one world, but Civilization as a whole. And not everybody in it was from Earth, or even human. As Kimball Kinnison once observed, any typical stay-at-home Earth human would pass out cold at meeting Worsel in a dark alley. By comparison, Kim and Worsel had a running joke about their respective appearances, saying to friends of their own species, “he’s so hideous, he’s positively distinguished-looking” re each other.
And oh yes, the Patrol didn’t interfere in other cultures’ affairs unless those cultures did some “interfering” in Civilization’s first. If the “interference” reached too high a level (like, say, attacking Patrol HQ at Cheyenne Mountain, as in First Lensman), the attacker found out the hard way that before anything else, the Patrol was a hammer of war.
The Lensmen of the Patrol would have called the Federation Star Fleet brothers and sisters, of whatever shape, from a human to an Andorian to a Horta. And the Rebel Alliance friends in need.
As for the Jedi, they would have found them…interesting, if a bit pretentious. The Sith, by comparison, would get away with an attack on a Lensman…just once.
It would fail, and the Sith would be dead a half-second later. And Klono and Noshabkeming help any Sith who even was noticed by an Arisian… child.
BTW, OUAT, when I worked cons in college, I got this direct from the horse’s mouth. Or more precisely fro that of the Great Bird of the Galaxy, Gene Roddenberry. Doc was one of his favorite authors, along with C.S. Forester.
Swansonic
I can almost hear the imperial march being played on kazoo’s in my head….
Priceless series of strips, Chris!
B Woodman
Now THAT is worthy of a long loud gigglesnort.
MilsurpShooter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=753nCv6tl2s Imperial March on a Kazoo, the interwebs really does have everything
DCE
Personally, I prefer the ocarina version of the march.
Pete in NC
Perfect!
Chris Muir
Thanks to H_B!
H_B
Yay \o/. My second strip-inspiration.
Morgul Lord
The cartoon, sadly, is an insult to Lord Vader
eon
The One is more like Count Dooku aka Darth Sidious. Never “good”, corrupt to his core, an egotistical narcissist with a bad case of prissiness, and not nearly as smart as he imagines himself to be.
clear ether
eon
JTC
Count Dookie…that shit just might stick!
NaCly Dog
Good one eon.
Clear ether yourself.
Virgil Samms / Roderick Kinnison 2016
H_B
Oh, if only we could have that ticket…
eon
Damn, or rather by Klono, I was just thinking the other day how much this election reminds me of First Lensman.
And how much the progressives remind me of Boskone.
clear ether and light landings!
eon
MasterDiver
Yes, and like Boskone, they’ve found that VICE is a much more powerful tool to undermine Civilization!
Down with Witherspoon!
Zar Belk!
H_B
There certainly are a lot of Zwilniks out there, eon.
John T
“Only the best for our boys in the service…”
billf
The latest cartoons are spot on Chris,but watch your six-we’re not the only ones watching.
Pamela
Eww gross. But considering how much comes out of his mouth hourly, it should be easy to accomplish quickly.
B Woodman
Wait. . . .what . . .. ? Is Chris comparing #BLM to feces throwing primates. . . ? How waisssss. . . for the primates.
KenH
Bitches, please
BOINGO would be stone DEAD for trying to impersonate or even wear black around the real Man In Black
Morris
“Virgil Samms / Roderick Kinnison 2016”
Yeah, pity there’s no such things as Lens to keep things honest 😛 /nerd
Bill G
And no Valerian troops with their DeLameters and Space Axes to clean up the mess.
H_B
Bikers For Trump: http://spindit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/bikers-for-trump.jpg
Bren
I second the notion that Vader is an improper image. Vader was redeemable.
Bill G
Trump’s ground game is to ignore Political Correctness. The outrageous things he says keeps the media spotlight on him and encourages all the folks who have hated that this insanity is replacing common courtesy.
The Instapundit’s May 31st column in USAToday (of all places) says it’s a major part of Trump’s success.
eon
Hence the parallel to Roderick Kinnison. I doubt Rod the Rock would be capable of anything approaching “political correctness”, either verbally or on the Lens. As Mase Northrup said, first he’d start talking, then he’d add in the Lens, and by the end he’d be yelling as well as thinking.
Anyone familiar with the First Historian’s work would understand the difference between a power-hungry demagogue (Like Senator Morgan or a certain ex-Senator and SecState), and someone who believes in their cause passionately and just doesn’t care what the opposition thinks (Rod the Rock or DT).
Another point of contact is that Morgan & Co.’s backers (like Isaacson and Towne) wanted a “One Galaxy” form of government, under their control, both economically and politically. Rod pointed out (when Isaacson tried to bribe Virgil Samms) that there was plenty of precedent for it, going back to the Royal East India Company and before that the Hanseatic League. Samms replied that what they wanted was a form of slavery that would set Civilization back a thousand years.
We face the same choice today. Consider how this lot admires the “new, capitalist” Red China. Then consider that China’s form of government, an oligarchy with total control of everything, by nationalization or simple force, has not changed in three millennia, regardless of the titles and ostensible “philosophy” of the rulers. (It has been said that in changing from Imperial rule to Communism, all China did was change from a group of irrational, brutal, and often-homicidal autocrats with poor fashion sense, to another such group with even worse fashion sense.)
There’s another parallel, as well. The Democrats (like Morgan’s crowd) are the ones trying to win with violence and intimidation. I suspect it is only a matter of (a rather short) time before they move from mere “intimidation” to bomb, bullet, and blade.
It’s all they know, ultimately. And after all, they enjoy it.
clear ether
eon
MasterDiver
Great post eon!
And like Rod the Rock’s opponent, Obama should have been impeached the day HE was inaugurated!
Zar Belk!
eon
Indeed. The One has always reminded me more of that nincompoop Witherspoon than his boss, Morgan.
Dictators, like managers, seek to multiply toadies, not competitors for power. Hillary made a colossal error with The One eight years ago. She can’t really afford any now.
I expect that DT will capitalize on this. The opposition does not yet understand that, like Kinnison, he isn’t going to play by their rules, which inevitably end in them winning.
Once they do, I expect things to turn ugly very quickly. As in “South American Caudillo Election” ugly.
clear ether
eon
JTC
“There’s another parallel, as well. The Democrats (like Morgan’s crowd) are the ones trying to win with violence and intimidation. I suspect it is only a matter of (a rather short) time before they move from mere “intimidation” to bomb, bullet, and blade.
It’s all they know, ultimately. And after all, they enjoy it.”
Already happening: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ugly-bloody-scenes-in-san-jose-as-protesters-attack-trump-supporters-outside-rally/ar-BBtOyJC?li=BBnb7Kz
As the feces begins hitting the fan in America as opposed to Cali, I’m thinking their enjoyment might get…diminished rather quickly.
And was that an actual accurately reported piece by WaPo? WTF?
H_B
“Then consider that China’s form of government, an oligarchy with total control of everything, by nationalization or simple force, has not changed in three millennia, regardless of the titles and ostensible “philosophy” of the rulers.”
So often left unsaid. Thank you, eon.
It’s not one particular policy or set of laws that’s holding China back (and twisting their current “emergence” into a Potemkin Economy), it’s the base culture. I’ve had Chinese nationals wax passionately to me about how China invented gun powder, the compass, the steam engine, the clock, the printing press, et cetera; and all I can think through their diatribes is “how embarrassing”. Someone can invent something in that culture, and it just gets buried and has no effect whatsoever. The main focus of human endeavor in China is increasing one’s Face by fooling competitors and business partners in some way – hence all the endemic corruption and shoddy manufacturing practices.
That’s not going to change so long as the base culture remains the same, and the base culture isn’t going to change so long as the pictographic writing script codifying that culture, imposed by First Emperor Chin two and a quarter millenia ago, remains the medium of communication and thought.
B Woodman
H_B,
Next time a Chinese national waxes poetic about China’s inventions and accomplishments (which I agree with – read Gavin Menzies’ books, 1421 and 1434. the evidence is circumstantial, but strong and compelling), ask them why they aren’t ruling the world? They had a strong opportunity to, long before Prince Henry the Navigator and Columbus; but they chose to implode and seclude themselves instead.
H_B
That’s exactly my point. When the British first opened diplomatic relations with China, the Chinese ambassadors insisted they meet in a yurt – because that was the kind of hut “barbarians” lived in anyway. The British brought a cannon with them and presented it to the ambassadors with an offer to provide more European cannons. The Chinese sniffed that the device was grossly inferior to cannons of Chinese manufacture.
After blasting their way past the fixed, non-traversable cannons of the Bogue Forts and sacking the Beijing Summer Palace in the 1860, the British found that meager field piece (superior to the antiquated devices the Chinese had fought with, but more than a century out of date compared to what the British and French brought with them) in a room for the Chinese court to point and laugh at.
Pete in NC
“(It has been said that in changing from Imperial rule to Communism, all China did was change from a group of irrational, brutal, and often-homicidal autocrats with poor fashion sense, to another such group with even worse fashion sense.)” If I hadn’t been following Rule # 1 of DbD blog reading (never with your mouth full) you, sir, would owe me a new keyboard! 😎
Jon
Lord Teflon Camel-Toe has spoken!
Pamela
How can he speak? It’s not only bent and forked, it’s twisted ,
H_B
I love this group of commenters. Chris puts up a Star Wars strip, and everyone talks about Lensman.
eon
Without the Wearers of the Lens there wouldn’t be a Star Wars, or Star Trek. Edward Elmer Smith, Ph.D (Org Chem) basically invented “space opera”, even more than Edmond Hamilton.
Without “Doc” there would be no warp drive, transwarp conduits (“hyper-spatial tubes” in Doc’s parlance), impulse engines, antimatter power (“negative matter” and “exotic matter”), deflector shields, blasters, “phaser banks” (“primaries”), torpedoes, wall-shields, universal translators, or superintelligent, highly logical and pacifistic aliens. The Vulcans owe a great deal to Tregonsee of Rigel IV and Nadreck of Palain VII, to say nothing of Worsel of Velantia; when Worsel says to LaVerne Thorndyke, “I have been thinking. I have been thinking about thought”, you can almost see Spock’s eyebrow elevate.
Doc created the idea of not a “space patrol”, but a Galactic Patrol that served not one world, but Civilization as a whole. And not everybody in it was from Earth, or even human. As Kimball Kinnison once observed, any typical stay-at-home Earth human would pass out cold at meeting Worsel in a dark alley. By comparison, Kim and Worsel had a running joke about their respective appearances, saying to friends of their own species, “he’s so hideous, he’s positively distinguished-looking” re each other.
And oh yes, the Patrol didn’t interfere in other cultures’ affairs unless those cultures did some “interfering” in Civilization’s first. If the “interference” reached too high a level (like, say, attacking Patrol HQ at Cheyenne Mountain, as in First Lensman), the attacker found out the hard way that before anything else, the Patrol was a hammer of war.
The Lensmen of the Patrol would have called the Federation Star Fleet brothers and sisters, of whatever shape, from a human to an Andorian to a Horta. And the Rebel Alliance friends in need.
As for the Jedi, they would have found them…interesting, if a bit pretentious. The Sith, by comparison, would get away with an attack on a Lensman…just once.
It would fail, and the Sith would be dead a half-second later. And Klono and Noshabkeming help any Sith who even was noticed by an Arisian… child.
BTW, OUAT, when I worked cons in college, I got this direct from the horse’s mouth. Or more precisely fro that of the Great Bird of the Galaxy, Gene Roddenberry. Doc was one of his favorite authors, along with C.S. Forester.
cheers
clear ether, sentients!
eon