Zed has been in the game long enough to have mastered the art of “knowin’ a guy.”
Very senior NCOs are frequent masters of this art as well. You can always tell if a unit is in the care of such a master. They have all their gear, they always get their repair parts when they’re needed, and they generally have the actual intel regarding their missions instead of the BS command wants them to have.
Because, for any given situation, they know a guy who can fix it.
Zed’s little DC vacation probably required at least six of said guys, including the air traffic controllers who ignored an F15 that wasn’t where it was supposed to be for awhile. Twice.
and the groundcrew that parked it and refuelled it and watched the occupants get out and leave in an unmarked vehicle that was never logged into or out of the base, etc.
Bite, shoot, cut, cinch, whatevs, just git ‘er done!
August 6, 2023 at 2:25 pm
larryarnold
“Zed’s little DC vacation probably required at least six of said guys, including the air traffic controllers who ignored an F15 that wasn’t where it was supposed to be for awhile. Twice.”
I’d guess, considering the dealings of politicians and the deep state, “don’t notice this” episodes are quite common around D.C.
Back in the day I noticed two kinds of commanders. The first was the “I’m too important to stop for an ID check.” The second was the “You darn well better check *every* ID, *including* mine.” Guess which type got infiltrated most often.
August 6, 2023 at 1:56 am
larryarnold
IMHO President Biden needs to stay right where he is. Any attempt to eliminate him will make him a martyr.
I remember how much damage LBJ did “carrying out JFK’s legacy,” which I doubt President Kennedy would even recognize, much less approve of.
Not to mention he’s the only thing between us and Kamala.
Elected employees should be subject to an IQ test and brain function test before being allowed to take office. And the tests should be repeated annually.
August 6, 2023 at 11:50 am
ULTRA-MAGA TOP DAWG JTC
When/if the meatpuppet bites it, Kumalot will NEVER be allowed to take the big chair. I guarantee you they have other very big very dangerous plans, whether before or after 11/24.
August 6, 2023 at 2:55 pm
Fox2!
Many of the first kind of commanders ended up eating asphalt with an SP pointing an M-16 at them. Always use the entry control point. Always show the SP your line badge. With the proper entry for the area you are trying to enter. Always respect the Two Man policy.
August 6, 2023 at 7:56 am
Oldarmourer
It’s not how they get rid of him, it’s who they blame it on.
Right now even if he kicks off from ‘natural causes’, which is more and more likely each day, the demise will be laid at the foot of Trump.
At long last the Woke will get their comeuppance for the lives they have ruined by having to pay cold hard cash and legal misery for the same they have caused.
We’ve long awaited a Champion of Decorum.
I’m glad to see at least one of the hyper rich knows what to do with his money!
“…speaking out against transgender politics, “Time for parents to fight back!” and protect their children from the ideology.”
And it ain’t just parents, and it ain’t just that evil “ideology”, that people need to fight back against…we, all of us, are going to have to fight against all of it, and it is going to require major commitment and sacrifice, because otherwise…
One of the first things I teach to my Sr Design team students is the concept of “I know a guy.” I let them know that the team they are a member of, assembled at random, is their first group of “I know a guys.” Their job through their career is to add to their group and become members of others. Its the lesson that will save their jobs and possibly their lives.
“Their job through their career is to add to their group and become members of others. Its the lesson that will save their jobs and possibly their lives.”
IMO, it is far more critical to identify and eliminate certain of those members who might likely cost them their jobs (and possibly their lives) from the inside of their group. Ask DJT about that.
When you “know a guy” he better be one who would lay it all down for you as you would for him when called upon.
That’s the “i know a guy” guy. Those you don’t/can’t trust don’t make that list. Those guys are guys you get rid of and only remember because they’re on the “not that guy” list.
The “guys you know” sometimes need to come from various backgrounds and skill sets. In 30+ years of teaching vocational-technical subjects in the public education system, I saw some of my students go on to become honor graduates of various tech schools and engineering colleges, owners of their own businesses, and generally become productive, law abiding citizens. Others became guests of dishonor at various reformatories, county jails, and state prisons. Several members of both groups have stayed in contact with me, even more than a decade after my retirement. Depending on the situation at hand, it can be to one’s advantage to have close ties to the most skillful people in both of those communities.
He was indeed. And many owed him their lives. From bankers to cops, to taxi drivers. Everybody has the ability to be that guy you know it they’re true of heart.
I remember a junior officer on my ship whose name is redacted. Anyways, we lost power one night while the ship was underway. I was busy restoring power but a gunner’s mate friend of mine had a position to guard the ASROC magazine during a power failure. Now, I can neither confirm nor deny the presence of nuclear weapons on board the USS XXXXXXXX but that is where they would have been if they were ever there. So, in the pitch black, someone approaches the magazine. My friend, the sentry, calls out STOP! Who goes there? No answer…again, STOP! Who goes there? No answer. The sentry loads a magazine into his 1911A1, jacks the slide and yells out “Tell me who you are, or I start shooting”. Suddenly this officer identifies himself really quick. Hey! It’s me! Don’t shoot! He was always one of the officious dumbasses and his loss would have been barely noticed. Those of you have been there know that the sentry fucked up by not firing after the first challenge. There was a special assembly of concerned parties to go through the lessons learned.
Sometime, I may be able to tell you all of the Great Snowball Battle that almost resulted in gunfire between ships in port.
I was army, but we were taught to challenge twice, lock and load, give a final warning, and then fire.
I asked the drill sergeant giving the class, “what if there isn’t time for all that?”
He gave me an evil grin and told me, “if you cain’t hold onto that mufu**in’ rifle, you don’t deserve to be carrying it.”
So I stood there at port arms while he sauntered off about twenty yards, explaining things to the rest of the class. Then, from twenty yards away, he raised his rubber knife and sprinted at me like an Olympian.
I managed, “HALT OR I’LL—” before he was on top of me. So I stepped in, torqued my upper body, and fed him the rifle butt to the chin. Well, almost. I missed by a hair as he was folding himself over backward and landing on his buttocks.
As he was picking himself up off the ground, he asked where I’d learned the buttstroke. I told him, “My dad taught me when I was five. He served in Korea.”
Drill Sergeant handed somebody else the rubber knife.
I was issued live ammunition as part of a credible threat from outside agencies against the base including the Weapons Storage Area aka ‘Bomb Dump’ that hadn’t held ‘special’ weapomns for a few years.
The briefing from the MP Sgt assigned to the area went as follows
“In the event that anyone is caught entering or within the area, I need to be able to count one more empty casing than there are holes in the body. Oh yeah, the word ‘Halt’ should be in there somewhere too” then he looked directly at me, knowing I was on the Small Arms Competition Team and said “you miss once”
Years on, when carrying a duty weapon daily, I remembered those words and made a point to pass them on to every new Officer I could.
August 7, 2023 at 5:02 pm
Oldarmourer
7 yards…that’s why self defence shooting should be taught at 7 yards.
Once someone is within 21 feet of you and has a knife, there is virtually no chance, even if you already have your weapon in your hand, to fire before you’re stabbed. None.
August 7, 2023 at 10:54 pm
Bren
Not true. I’ve watched videos and trained for just that.
While it is true that, if you stand in place like a goof and attempt to draw a holstered weapon, you WILL get got, it’s a horrible way to react. In every cas I saw, if the guy with the gun moved backward as he drew –beter yet, backward an to the side away from the knife hand, the guy with the knife took a round.
Likewise, every time the knife wielder went up against a drawn weapon, so long as the guy with the drawn gun was ready to go and didn’t waste time issuing commands to drop the knife, the attacker ate a couple of rounds before he could get close.
All of which is not to say that you need to let an attacker get that close if you can articulate a reason they need to be shot.
And always remember, THAT GUY is always out there somewhere. That guy who’ll ignore a mag dump to the chest, close, and choke you to death before he bleeds out.
August 8, 2023 at 9:11 am
Oldarmourer
Perfectly true, I’ve drilled it over and over and been scored on it as one part of a pass/fail exercise to keep my job. The goa lthere wasn’t to not get stuck, that’s almost impossible, the goal was to minimize the assault and return fire.
IF you know you’re going to be attacked AND have your weapon in hand ready to go, there’s still that 1/4 second lag time while you react to the assailant making a move, he doesn’t get that 1/4 second lag time, YOU DO and even a trained ‘quick draw artist’ needs a 1/4 second to lift the weapon and fire.
If you are already aiming at the aggressor then you still have that quarter second, or more, to even think about firing and a lot can happen in that time. It takes less than a quarter second to plant a knife, that’s one step and a lunge. You might get the shot off first, if you’re very, very lucky and anticipate the move (known to the courts as ‘premeditated’) but there’s a 90% chance that you’re still going to get stuck, even by a ‘dead’ attacker.
You can cover more than 7 yards with a step and a lunge? (remember, the proper reaction is moving away and quartering) That’s hella impressive, my dude!
Also, if you’re facing somebody with a knife, regardless of distance, and your weapon is out, it had better be laid on target. None of this raise and fire BS. Foreword movement = trigger pull.
You may still get stabbed, but I’ve seen plenty of guys who got off rounds before the BG reached them.
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So it WAS Zed, and not Jo!
So. Is “The Firm” out to setup a new “occupant” for the big hou… White House by eliminating the resident?
Zed has been in the game long enough to have mastered the art of “knowin’ a guy.”
Very senior NCOs are frequent masters of this art as well. You can always tell if a unit is in the care of such a master. They have all their gear, they always get their repair parts when they’re needed, and they generally have the actual intel regarding their missions instead of the BS command wants them to have.
Because, for any given situation, they know a guy who can fix it.
Zed’s little DC vacation probably required at least six of said guys, including the air traffic controllers who ignored an F15 that wasn’t where it was supposed to be for awhile. Twice.
and the groundcrew that parked it and refuelled it and watched the occupants get out and leave in an unmarked vehicle that was never logged into or out of the base, etc.
Like the man said “that’s some cockroach” 😉
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIAjMXIRr38
Bite your head off, man…
Bite, shoot, cut, cinch, whatevs, just git ‘er done!
“Zed’s little DC vacation probably required at least six of said guys, including the air traffic controllers who ignored an F15 that wasn’t where it was supposed to be for awhile. Twice.”
I’d guess, considering the dealings of politicians and the deep state, “don’t notice this” episodes are quite common around D.C.
Back in the day I noticed two kinds of commanders. The first was the “I’m too important to stop for an ID check.” The second was the “You darn well better check *every* ID, *including* mine.” Guess which type got infiltrated most often.
IMHO President Biden needs to stay right where he is. Any attempt to eliminate him will make him a martyr.
I remember how much damage LBJ did “carrying out JFK’s legacy,” which I doubt President Kennedy would even recognize, much less approve of.
Not to mention he’s the only thing between us and Kamala.
Elected employees should be subject to an IQ test and brain function test before being allowed to take office. And the tests should be repeated annually.
When/if the meatpuppet bites it, Kumalot will NEVER be allowed to take the big chair. I guarantee you they have other very big very dangerous plans, whether before or after 11/24.
Many of the first kind of commanders ended up eating asphalt with an SP pointing an M-16 at them. Always use the entry control point. Always show the SP your line badge. With the proper entry for the area you are trying to enter. Always respect the Two Man policy.
It’s not how they get rid of him, it’s who they blame it on.
Right now even if he kicks off from ‘natural causes’, which is more and more likely each day, the demise will be laid at the foot of Trump.
Indeed. I expect to see some CGI photos or Deep Fake video showing Trump smothering the *Resident with a pillow if he should pass ‘unexpectedly’.
Certain subjects and questions are best not asked, and I’m surprised at Sam for this whole thing after all these years.
One reliably terrible subject is asking the explanation for the thing which was just explained. Figured an engineer would know that, too.
“Ground Attack F-15”.
Zed’s Uber. Wow.
F-15E Strike Eagle
I. Am. SOOO. Jealous!
Liam (PTUI!) wishes and pretends that he has Zed’s “very particular set of skills”.
((Liam = PTIU! because, for a man that makes his living pretending to use guns, he “outed” himself as an anti-gun, gun control freak))
Does that also apply to lightsabers?
“Applause”. :). Standing “O”.
BTW, speaking as somebody who has stuck a knife into a table, that blade went pretty deep.
RIP Resolute Desk.
A little filler, a little epoxy, a little wax, a LOT of elbow grease…It’ll buff out.
–I know a guy…
Zar Belk!
The deepness is an accurate measure of the amount of seething anger present.
Looks like a K-Bar.
Hawaiian pidgin english ‘ka ka roach’: to steal; pilfer; take the property of. “Eh, you wen ka-ka-roach my chips o wot?”
Off topic ~ important: Elon Musk Pledges Unlimited Legal Funding for Employees Unfairly Treated by Employers for Contrarian Posts or Likes on X
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/elon-musk-pledges-unlimited-legal-funding-employees-unfairly/
At long last the Woke will get their comeuppance for the lives they have ruined by having to pay cold hard cash and legal misery for the same they have caused.
We’ve long awaited a Champion of Decorum.
I’m glad to see at least one of the hyper rich knows what to do with his money!
Elon, is Noah Grayson your potential first legal defense client? NASCAR driver indefinitely suspended, and may lose his career, for ‘Liking’ an ‘insensitive’ Tweet with a meme of BLM hero George Floyd’s face on Sebastian the crab from ‘Little Mermaid’ and captioned ‘Under Da Knee’: https://sports.yahoo.com/nascar-and-legacy-motor-club-suspend-noah-gragson-indefinitely-154916974.html
Also…
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/us/musk-its-time-for-parents-to-fight-back-against-gender-ideology-5385336?utm_source=News&src_src=News&utm_campaign=breaking-2023-07-11-1&src_cmp=breaking-2023-07-11-1&utm_medium=email
“…speaking out against transgender politics, “Time for parents to fight back!” and protect their children from the ideology.”
And it ain’t just parents, and it ain’t just that evil “ideology”, that people need to fight back against…we, all of us, are going to have to fight against all of it, and it is going to require major commitment and sacrifice, because otherwise…
Auto-Error Corrected name…. Noah Gragson
One of the first things I teach to my Sr Design team students is the concept of “I know a guy.” I let them know that the team they are a member of, assembled at random, is their first group of “I know a guys.” Their job through their career is to add to their group and become members of others. Its the lesson that will save their jobs and possibly their lives.
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Hold Fast
“Their job through their career is to add to their group and become members of others. Its the lesson that will save their jobs and possibly their lives.”
IMO, it is far more critical to identify and eliminate certain of those members who might likely cost them their jobs (and possibly their lives) from the inside of their group. Ask DJT about that.
When you “know a guy” he better be one who would lay it all down for you as you would for him when called upon.
That’s the “i know a guy” guy. Those you don’t/can’t trust don’t make that list. Those guys are guys you get rid of and only remember because they’re on the “not that guy” list.
Dodged a bullet (as it were) here…
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/us/in-depth-states-stop-credit-card-companies-from-tracking-gun-purchases-it-may-not-last-5433928?utm_source=Morningbrief&src_src=Morningbrief&utm_campaign=mb-2023-08-06&src_cmp=mb-2023-08-06&utm_medium=email&est=NGaP6Nlaeh5rXVSiaZLo5MAdgCBTZjspQAqOc9lysSe2ZGl%2FHcqu%2BD17smc%3D
And as usual Bulldog DeSantis is all over it…
https://www.flgov.com/2023/05/12/governor-ron-desantis-signs-first-in-the-nation-legislation-to-protect-against-government-surveillance-of-personal-finances/
To quote a line from the old radio show, “My friend Irma.”
“Hello, Joe?? Al. I got a problem.”
The “guys you know” sometimes need to come from various backgrounds and skill sets. In 30+ years of teaching vocational-technical subjects in the public education system, I saw some of my students go on to become honor graduates of various tech schools and engineering colleges, owners of their own businesses, and generally become productive, law abiding citizens. Others became guests of dishonor at various reformatories, county jails, and state prisons. Several members of both groups have stayed in contact with me, even more than a decade after my retirement. Depending on the situation at hand, it can be to one’s advantage to have close ties to the most skillful people in both of those communities.
Wasn’t “The Equalizer” a Guy who knew many other guys. And a few gals. Many of whom “owed him a favor”.
He was indeed. And many owed him their lives. From bankers to cops, to taxi drivers. Everybody has the ability to be that guy you know it they’re true of heart.
Dodged a bullet (as it were) here…
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/us/in-depth-states-stop-credit-card-companies-from-tracking-gun-purchases-it-may-not-last-5433928?utm_source=Morningbrief&src_src=Morningbrief&utm_campaign=mb-2023-08-06&src_cmp=mb-2023-08-06&utm_medium=email&est=NGaP6Nlaeh5rXVSiaZLo5MAdgCBTZjspQAq
And as usual Bulldog DeSantis is all over it…
https://www.flgov.com/2023/05/12/governor-ron-desantis-signs-first-in-the-nation-legislation-to-protect-against-government-surveillance-of-personal-finances/
Sorry those two comments are redundant, the first one containing them was pending moderation due to double links…
I remember a junior officer on my ship whose name is redacted. Anyways, we lost power one night while the ship was underway. I was busy restoring power but a gunner’s mate friend of mine had a position to guard the ASROC magazine during a power failure. Now, I can neither confirm nor deny the presence of nuclear weapons on board the USS XXXXXXXX but that is where they would have been if they were ever there. So, in the pitch black, someone approaches the magazine. My friend, the sentry, calls out STOP! Who goes there? No answer…again, STOP! Who goes there? No answer. The sentry loads a magazine into his 1911A1, jacks the slide and yells out “Tell me who you are, or I start shooting”. Suddenly this officer identifies himself really quick. Hey! It’s me! Don’t shoot! He was always one of the officious dumbasses and his loss would have been barely noticed. Those of you have been there know that the sentry fucked up by not firing after the first challenge. There was a special assembly of concerned parties to go through the lessons learned.
Sometime, I may be able to tell you all of the Great Snowball Battle that almost resulted in gunfire between ships in port.
I was army, but we were taught to challenge twice, lock and load, give a final warning, and then fire.
I asked the drill sergeant giving the class, “what if there isn’t time for all that?”
He gave me an evil grin and told me, “if you cain’t hold onto that mufu**in’ rifle, you don’t deserve to be carrying it.”
So I stood there at port arms while he sauntered off about twenty yards, explaining things to the rest of the class. Then, from twenty yards away, he raised his rubber knife and sprinted at me like an Olympian.
I managed, “HALT OR I’LL—” before he was on top of me. So I stepped in, torqued my upper body, and fed him the rifle butt to the chin. Well, almost. I missed by a hair as he was folding himself over backward and landing on his buttocks.
As he was picking himself up off the ground, he asked where I’d learned the buttstroke. I told him, “My dad taught me when I was five. He served in Korea.”
Drill Sergeant handed somebody else the rubber knife.
I was issued live ammunition as part of a credible threat from outside agencies against the base including the Weapons Storage Area aka ‘Bomb Dump’ that hadn’t held ‘special’ weapomns for a few years.
The briefing from the MP Sgt assigned to the area went as follows
“In the event that anyone is caught entering or within the area, I need to be able to count one more empty casing than there are holes in the body. Oh yeah, the word ‘Halt’ should be in there somewhere too” then he looked directly at me, knowing I was on the Small Arms Competition Team and said “you miss once”
Years on, when carrying a duty weapon daily, I remembered those words and made a point to pass them on to every new Officer I could.
7 yards…that’s why self defence shooting should be taught at 7 yards.
Once someone is within 21 feet of you and has a knife, there is virtually no chance, even if you already have your weapon in your hand, to fire before you’re stabbed. None.
Not true. I’ve watched videos and trained for just that.
While it is true that, if you stand in place like a goof and attempt to draw a holstered weapon, you WILL get got, it’s a horrible way to react. In every cas I saw, if the guy with the gun moved backward as he drew –beter yet, backward an to the side away from the knife hand, the guy with the knife took a round.
Likewise, every time the knife wielder went up against a drawn weapon, so long as the guy with the drawn gun was ready to go and didn’t waste time issuing commands to drop the knife, the attacker ate a couple of rounds before he could get close.
All of which is not to say that you need to let an attacker get that close if you can articulate a reason they need to be shot.
And always remember, THAT GUY is always out there somewhere. That guy who’ll ignore a mag dump to the chest, close, and choke you to death before he bleeds out.
Perfectly true, I’ve drilled it over and over and been scored on it as one part of a pass/fail exercise to keep my job. The goa lthere wasn’t to not get stuck, that’s almost impossible, the goal was to minimize the assault and return fire.
IF you know you’re going to be attacked AND have your weapon in hand ready to go, there’s still that 1/4 second lag time while you react to the assailant making a move, he doesn’t get that 1/4 second lag time, YOU DO and even a trained ‘quick draw artist’ needs a 1/4 second to lift the weapon and fire.
If you are already aiming at the aggressor then you still have that quarter second, or more, to even think about firing and a lot can happen in that time. It takes less than a quarter second to plant a knife, that’s one step and a lunge. You might get the shot off first, if you’re very, very lucky and anticipate the move (known to the courts as ‘premeditated’) but there’s a 90% chance that you’re still going to get stuck, even by a ‘dead’ attacker.
You can cover more than 7 yards with a step and a lunge? (remember, the proper reaction is moving away and quartering) That’s hella impressive, my dude!
Also, if you’re facing somebody with a knife, regardless of distance, and your weapon is out, it had better be laid on target. None of this raise and fire BS. Foreword movement = trigger pull.
You may still get stabbed, but I’ve seen plenty of guys who got off rounds before the BG reached them.
To add, I’m not LEO, so I’m not locked into following procedures that can get me killed.