More like Chinese sell-out.
Abandoning allies in the name of co-depending enemies is the Progressive way. Obama is determined to show that it works better than confrontation, which is partly why he is hell-bent on an “agreement” with Iran. But Obama’s china policy is cut from the same cloth.
It’s bad but not hopeless. I think Chris is premature when saying “there go the Spratley islands”.
Fortunately for the rest of the world, Obama has been so obviously untrustable that countries that depended on us are tooling back up.
China has set off an arms race around themselves. SK and Japan are talking about cooperating militarily, something unthinkable even 5 years ago. Both are working on their navies. The japanese are building carriers. The Philippines, after triumphantly ending US navy basing there have practically begged us to come back. Taiwan is buying aegis destroyers with anti-missile capability. India, on the other side of China, is also building carriers.
China is running around loose right now. It may not be that way into the next Prez’ term.
Or…How about “Chinese Take-Away”
What’s racist about it? Just stone fact. Ditto with the Russky bear. Giv’em an hour, Putin’s back for another slice of someone else’s pie. Come to think of it, why don’t we call Obozo’s foreign “policy” (or lack thereof) the “Chamberlin Appeasement Plan”? That name fits as well as any, and gives some historical background as well as foretelling future events with a high degree of predictability.
I once made love to a Chinese girl….I was horny an hour later….is that racist?…
Jan, Fuck Off
You clowns been using that the last 8 years
When you make everything racist, NOTHING is racist
What KenH says.
Jim, “Chinese Take-Away” Just perfect..
I have to wonder if the Chinese Paras started falling from the skies, would Obama just surrender? He would probably negotiate a supreme puppet position for himself as part of the deal.
“would Obama surrender?” is a moot point.
Would we surrender is the question.
Obama’s long since surrendered the U.S.A. to its every enemy.
“Would we surrender is the question.”
Ya got that shite right. And the answer (in case anyone is unsure) is a resounding November Foxtrot Whiskey!
I believe IJN Admiral Yamamoto had an observation (although this quote is disputed) regarding such an event:
“You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.”
BTW Yamamoto also predicted that the only way to force the Americans to surrender would be to dictate the terms from DC.
For that matter, to know what’s going on now, just keep one eye peeled on the “Frog-O-Meter” thermometer. The game is to see how far we can be cooked before these assholes are expelled from the levers of power.
In real life, the frog jumps.
Chinese illegal immigrants are filling up eastern Siberia…guess when China will just annex it like Pooty Poot is annexing Donbass? The easiest thing to sabotage is the TransSiberian railroad…
There was an old saw about lining up the chinese and marching them into the see and the line would never end because of the births among that many people. Well, think about it. If they started loading barges and shipping people to the west coast of America, at what point would we simply run out of equipment to sink the barges?
Less valid today because of three decades of the “One Child” policy. Which meant that most Chinese families wound up with sons for “cultural” reasons like “carrying on the family name” and “caring for elders in their old age”. (I leave you to deduce what happened to girl babies, especially in the provinces.)
The result is a serious M/F imbalance in the last two generations which is going to lead to a demographic/population crash in two more. Simply put, not enough wombs to go around to maintain even a static population-replacement birth/death ratio. And China is still mostly agrarian, so forget about a high-tech Utopia except the sham one in the “New Economic Zone”. (Google “ghost cities”.)
And oh yes, they have and will have literally millions of young men who don’t have a hope in he11 of having a wife and/or a family. Feminists here don’t even realize how traumatic that is emotionally.
Historically, such a large mass of young, restless men can be a deadly threat to…their government. They’re unhappy, the government’s policies are the reason, they demand change.
The usual method of authoritarian governments to deal with such a threat to the status quo is to refocus their anger. Generally by handing each one a uniform and a rifle along with a demand for obedience, as W.H.B. Smith once said.
Then the government points them at somebody else that government doesn’t like or wants to take over. Siberia comes to mind. See The Bear and the Dragon by Tom Clancy. Keep in mind that the present China/Russia “alliance” is the latest in a series of same that have broken up, reformed, broken up, and ended up shooting at each other across the Amur repeatedly over the last century.
Mostly, the Communist leadership in Beijng sees the present situation as their last chance to create an updated “Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere”, with them reaping the benefits instead of Japan. Before that demographic crash caves in on them and takes their government and bureaucracy down, just as Rome went down in the Fifth Century AD.
(Grab a copy of Connections by James Burke- the book, not the TV series, and check out Chapter 4, “Faith in Numbers”, specifically pages 81-85. The Western Roman Empire’s demise may be a foreshadowing of Red China’s. )
Syndicalist socialism (which is the correct term for their trendy “free-market Communism”) only works as long as the government has an economy to exploit. All trends in China show that that economy is on life support.
That’s when authoritarian governments generally turn to war to ensure their own survival. Because what they can’t create, they can confiscate from someone else. Revolutionary France under first the Directory and then Napoleon being the most obvious historical models.
Or going back to Clancy;
“War is the strategic equivalent of a mugging. ‘They Have It. We Want It. Let’s Get It’.”
cheers (kind of…)
Comparisons between China and the Americas are fascinating…Everybody here in both Americas are practically the same(English, Spanish or French) while the many nations of China are radically different, they all hate each others’ guts, Manchus, Han, etc…
The US territory surface is the same as China just like the climate…Northern China is like Alaska while the south is like Florida.
China got three times the US population but most chinese are the poorest folks on the planet, living on a dollar a day and 99% of China’s wealth is in the hands of the 1%…the communist party…no, China’s contradictions are so extreme that it make the Soviets look like an utopia.
The weirdest about the Chinese is the Hakka minority, the Chink’s own Jews…most chinese expatriates are Hakka, but they are a majority in the party, they put Mao in power are are everywhere in the leadership of China…
Build An Island.
Build A Burgers in Telfs-Buchen, Austria on the 1th to 14th.
More security there than the DD. 🙂
Nations that promoted equality of opportunity for all groups, like Hungary being the first nation with laws that defined equality of individuals from all groups, usually find someone will try to destroy that and make the good deeds go punished. The break up of the empire in 1919 helped bad things happen later.
‘Power corrupts’ is the old phrase.
But is that the truth, or do corrupt people seek power? More and more power is never enough for some.
Combine an absolute belief in their own superiority and “fitness to rule” with an absolute contempt for everyone else. Add some outright hatred of the rest of the human race. Stir well, and simmer in academia for decades where everyone pats each other on the back for agreeing with each other on just everything.
You end up with modern-day progressives. Who believe they are entitled to rule. And who have no patience with anyone who dares to disagree with them on any subject.
As H. Beam Piper once said, they are the type that believe that they are inevitably right about everything, that they know what’s best for everyone else better than everyone else does, and that anyone who disagrees with them is not only wrong but a venal scoundrel as well.
With that sort of mindset, it’s pretty much inevitable that they will seek absolute power. And abuse it if and when they achieve it.
Reminds me of the old Dick Cavett joke:
“I love a German/Chinese restaurant. The only problem is, an hour later you’re hungry for power again.”
Tom Clancy’s computer game SNN from the 90’s was set in the Spratly Islands…the man was prophetic. Makes me wonder if “Red Storm Rising” will come to pass.
IIRC, Clancy got a visit from the entire intelligence alphabet soup every time he published a new book. They wanted to know who was feeding him highly classified information. His standard reply was no one; all he did was employ logical deduction. The “soupies” never made the connection.
The Three Letter Agencies haven’t done “logic” since the Carter administration. Mainly because every time they sent him a SNIE that didn’t agree with his preconceived “Everything is Beautiful” notions, he sent it back with “NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!!” slashed across it in red Flair pen. The next thing you know, whoever was responsible for said SNIE was out on his ear.
Today, the most critical factor in any intel estimate is “what can I tell the NCA that won’t cost me my job?”
Clancy had it easier. All he had to worry about was whether or not people would buy his books. So he could get away with…thinking logically.
Incidentally, “The Sum of All Fears” was almost eerily prophetic about… the last two Democratic administrations. Now you know why Hollywood butchered it when they made a movie out of it. Mustn’t offend their friends, you know.
Everyone needs a six-pack and an ICBMW to quote Gallagher
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