Don’t forget that the Third Reich began with the German Romantic movement in the early 19th Century. Which was OCD about the wonders of all things Persian and Islamic.
The “progressives” share most of the tenets of German National Socialism. (See The Morning of the Magicians by Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier, 1964.) The leadership is already well on its way to becoming the next generation of Nazis, and the academic mobs are already their Brownshirts.
And those “imported young men” will be the new Waffen SS. In fact, a lot of them come from the same (non-German) territories that produced six of the thirty-eight divisions of that formation.
Let’s not forget the glue that bound together Otto von Bismark’s Germany.
He bound his newly assembled Homeland with Universal Social Welfare and an educational system that many envied.
And that included Woodrow Wilson.
Quite long ago I did a similar experiment by asking about Day by Day. The AI gave a very confident answer that was completely wrong so I told it so, then it fell right into the described behavior.
I’m pretty sure that if you question AI in an area that YOU KNOW about and press it a bit you will get similar results. Have fun now! 😉
Sadly, even Grok is not immune. I’m not expert enough to know whether Grok’s replies fit the described behaviour.
Recently I asked Grok whether Canada’s Supply Management systems were comparable to soviet style centralized planning. Grok reassured me that supply management is designed to provide price stabilization & protecting suppliers. I replied, pointing out it was centralized planning missing only the element of the state owning the means of production. I asserted state ownership was moot if the state controls the monopoly quotas for production.
Grok replied saying I was right; supply management was a limited version of centralized planning. I asked how easy it would be to evolve from the current model to full soviet model. Grok confirmed it would be easy.
November 22, 2025 at 7:18 pm
badger52
Chris, Wiki worships at the High Church of Akademia.
November 23, 2025 at 1:20 am
Rickn8or
“What the hell, I’m already trashed on wikipedia!”
Congratulations on your achievement!
November 23, 2025 at 4:26 pm
Henry
Man, have I ever seen THAT loop lots of times.
“Here are three URLs of articles that discuss the issues you name.”
“None of those URLs work.”
“I apologize, they seem to have gone offline since I read them. Here are three more URLs that I have already verified will work properly.”
“Those URLs are all 404 as well.”
“I see that you’re right. Here are…”
Don’t forget another factor that helped usher in Nazism in Germany: The punitive conditions of the Treaty of Versailles. It was so onerous that Woodrow Wilson refused to have the US be any part of it.
The French and British governments were trying to cover their own embarrassments at having made a succession of wrong-headed decisions going back almost to the Austrian-Prussian War of 1866.
(People today forget that France started the Franco-Prussian War of 1870-71, lost it, and spent the next 43 years- up to August 1914- whining like a two-year-old spoiled brat about it.)
Their heads of state hoped that essentially blaming it all on “the Kaiser” would deflect their own voters’ attention from how badly they had misinterpreted virtually every event in Europe and Russia for four decades. Including the rise of Communism in Russia, which prior to that had been seen as a quaint academic thought game. The brutality of the first actual Communist state, Portugal- yes, their Revolution was in 1910, seven years before Russia’s- was blithely disregarded. (It was as bloody as Stalin’s purges, just on a smaller scale due to Portugal’s smaller population.)
The French and British governments counted on essentially destroying Germany’s economy and its industries (especially its armaments industries), which they believed would make them look like conquering heroes. And that Germany would accept its chastisement “for the good of all”. After all, they had produced all those musicians and philosophers, hadn’t they? They would understand that it was “nothing personal”, just the need to recreate Metternichism, hopefully undoing the chaos of 1848 at last.
Well, of course, Germany didn’t. The poverty, violence and general suffering did what any reasonable person would expect it to.
It pissed them off. And caused them to turn for “salvation” to a fanatic, unstable, and sociopathic “movement” led by a deranged, unstable, and self-anointed Messiah.
A part of what caused the US to openly enter the war was the attack on Pearl Harbour, and a large part of that was predicated by Treaty of Washington and the Treaty of London, both of which severely limited the number and size of warships the signatory countries were allowed to build or possess. The US was forced under those limitations to scrap a large number of halfbuilt and already built battleships as well as limiting the size and number of aircraft carriers and other ships. Japan refused to sign it. Treaties only compel the ones signing to follow them, but as we’ve seen up here with the deeds to privately owned property being declared void because the natives want that land back, even signing a treaty doesn’t mean anything when one side changes their mind later.
November 23, 2025 at 4:34 pm
Henry
“France started the Franco-Prussian War of 1870-71, lost it, and spent the next 43 years- up to August 1914- whining like a two-year-old spoiled brat about it.”
Sounds a lot like the reaction of Democrats to the decisive re-election of a fully-lawfared “34-time felon.”
November 22, 2025 at 3:34 pm
Oldarmourer
Permanently woke means never dreaming.
No dreams= no future.
Oh, the “woke” have dreams, in fact they live in a permanent waking dream state. Where everything will “work out” if everyone else just shuts up, obeys them, gives them power, gives them money, and of course believes hard enough.
It’s just that their dreams look like any sane, rational person’s nightmares.
There is nothing intelligent about AI. It is computer programs designed to create responses to questions. It has no sense of right and wrong. If it is asked what color the sky is, it will scan the sum of its databases and probably come up with “blue”. Ask it a more complex question, one wherein the programmers gave it their biases, and the response will be in alignment with those biases. No matter what the truth might be. For example, if the programmers were “moon landing deniers”, all responses to ” Neil Armstong” will probably try to zing in that he “allegedly” walked on the moon.
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Don’t forget that the Third Reich began with the German Romantic movement in the early 19th Century. Which was OCD about the wonders of all things Persian and Islamic.
The “progressives” share most of the tenets of German National Socialism. (See The Morning of the Magicians by Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier, 1964.) The leadership is already well on its way to becoming the next generation of Nazis, and the academic mobs are already their Brownshirts.
And those “imported young men” will be the new Waffen SS. In fact, a lot of them come from the same (non-German) territories that produced six of the thirty-eight divisions of that formation.
clear ether
eon
Let’s not forget the glue that bound together Otto von Bismark’s Germany.
He bound his newly assembled Homeland with Universal Social Welfare and an educational system that many envied.
And that included Woodrow Wilson.
Carl Jung said the ONLY historical precedent he could compare the Nazi movement’s type of passion to was the cult of Islam.
They will build. It is their nature.
What they build is determined by the society they inhabit.
CHRIS – ?? https://x.com/BrianRoemmele/status/1991714955339657384 GOOD LUCK WITH THE STOREYLINE “HALLUCINATION”. ONLY YOU CAN MAKE THIS ONE COME ALIVE!
Quite long ago I did a similar experiment by asking about Day by Day. The AI gave a very confident answer that was completely wrong so I told it so, then it fell right into the described behavior.
I’m pretty sure that if you question AI in an area that YOU KNOW about and press it a bit you will get similar results. Have fun now! 😉
What the hell, I’m already trashed on wikipedia!
Sadly, even Grok is not immune. I’m not expert enough to know whether Grok’s replies fit the described behaviour.
Recently I asked Grok whether Canada’s Supply Management systems were comparable to soviet style centralized planning. Grok reassured me that supply management is designed to provide price stabilization & protecting suppliers. I replied, pointing out it was centralized planning missing only the element of the state owning the means of production. I asserted state ownership was moot if the state controls the monopoly quotas for production.
Grok replied saying I was right; supply management was a limited version of centralized planning. I asked how easy it would be to evolve from the current model to full soviet model. Grok confirmed it would be easy.
Chris, Wiki worships at the High Church of Akademia.
“What the hell, I’m already trashed on wikipedia!”
Congratulations on your achievement!
Man, have I ever seen THAT loop lots of times.
“Here are three URLs of articles that discuss the issues you name.”
“None of those URLs work.”
“I apologize, they seem to have gone offline since I read them. Here are three more URLs that I have already verified will work properly.”
“Those URLs are all 404 as well.”
“I see that you’re right. Here are…”
Repeat until user loses all trust.
Huh? I just looked at your Wikipedia entry — it seems reasonably neutral!
(Or maybe I didn’t react negatively to the same words that progressives do.)
“Say what you want about the tenets of national socialism, but at least they had an ethos.” Big Lebowski. Nihilists!
Wikipedia is right up there with Snopes, IMO
Well, g’bye: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115590786862216464
Great news!! The meltdown will be EPIC!!
Our resident wet blanket on another blog points out that the vast majority of MN Somalis are already citizens, so there goes that solution.
Don’t forget another factor that helped usher in Nazism in Germany: The punitive conditions of the Treaty of Versailles. It was so onerous that Woodrow Wilson refused to have the US be any part of it.
The French and British governments were trying to cover their own embarrassments at having made a succession of wrong-headed decisions going back almost to the Austrian-Prussian War of 1866.
(People today forget that France started the Franco-Prussian War of 1870-71, lost it, and spent the next 43 years- up to August 1914- whining like a two-year-old spoiled brat about it.)
Their heads of state hoped that essentially blaming it all on “the Kaiser” would deflect their own voters’ attention from how badly they had misinterpreted virtually every event in Europe and Russia for four decades. Including the rise of Communism in Russia, which prior to that had been seen as a quaint academic thought game. The brutality of the first actual Communist state, Portugal- yes, their Revolution was in 1910, seven years before Russia’s- was blithely disregarded. (It was as bloody as Stalin’s purges, just on a smaller scale due to Portugal’s smaller population.)
The French and British governments counted on essentially destroying Germany’s economy and its industries (especially its armaments industries), which they believed would make them look like conquering heroes. And that Germany would accept its chastisement “for the good of all”. After all, they had produced all those musicians and philosophers, hadn’t they? They would understand that it was “nothing personal”, just the need to recreate Metternichism, hopefully undoing the chaos of 1848 at last.
Well, of course, Germany didn’t. The poverty, violence and general suffering did what any reasonable person would expect it to.
It pissed them off. And caused them to turn for “salvation” to a fanatic, unstable, and sociopathic “movement” led by a deranged, unstable, and self-anointed Messiah.
And the bill was called due on 1 Sept 1939.
clear ether
eon
A part of what caused the US to openly enter the war was the attack on Pearl Harbour, and a large part of that was predicated by Treaty of Washington and the Treaty of London, both of which severely limited the number and size of warships the signatory countries were allowed to build or possess. The US was forced under those limitations to scrap a large number of halfbuilt and already built battleships as well as limiting the size and number of aircraft carriers and other ships. Japan refused to sign it. Treaties only compel the ones signing to follow them, but as we’ve seen up here with the deeds to privately owned property being declared void because the natives want that land back, even signing a treaty doesn’t mean anything when one side changes their mind later.
“France started the Franco-Prussian War of 1870-71, lost it, and spent the next 43 years- up to August 1914- whining like a two-year-old spoiled brat about it.”
Sounds a lot like the reaction of Democrats to the decisive re-election of a fully-lawfared “34-time felon.”
Permanently woke means never dreaming.
No dreams= no future.
Oh, the “woke” have dreams, in fact they live in a permanent waking dream state. Where everything will “work out” if everyone else just shuts up, obeys them, gives them power, gives them money, and of course believes hard enough.
It’s just that their dreams look like any sane, rational person’s nightmares.
clear ether
eon
There is nothing intelligent about AI. It is computer programs designed to create responses to questions. It has no sense of right and wrong. If it is asked what color the sky is, it will scan the sum of its databases and probably come up with “blue”. Ask it a more complex question, one wherein the programmers gave it their biases, and the response will be in alignment with those biases. No matter what the truth might be. For example, if the programmers were “moon landing deniers”, all responses to ” Neil Armstong” will probably try to zing in that he “allegedly” walked on the moon.
“There is nothing intelligent about AI”
Oh come now…
As our toon title double entendre for the day says…
“If you build it they will come.” Get it? 🙂
Some do I guess…
://www.vice.com/en/article/people-are-now-having-babies-with-their-ai-lovers/?utm_source=feedingcuriosity.com