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  • November 29, 2016 at 8:57 pm
    S Hooks

    This is for Petercat, from the previous panel comments:

    “A Monarchy is based on the idea that one person is wiser than many,
    a Democracy on the idea that many people are wiser than one. Wait. How does that go again?”
    I wish I could remember who said that.

    It’s probably a version of Robert Heinlein’s “The Notebooks of Lazarus Long”:

    Democracy is based on the assumption that a million men are wiser than one man. How’s that again? I missed something.

    Autocracy is based on the assumption that one man is wiser than a million men. Let’s play that over again, too. Who decides?

    • November 29, 2016 at 10:31 pm

      That’s it! Thank you!
      Time to re-read Heinlein. I’ll start with “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.”
      Then on to “Fallen Angels”. Not Heinlein, but still great.

      • November 30, 2016 at 12:07 am

        “Who decides?”

        Aye, there’s the rub.

      • November 30, 2016 at 1:41 am
        David Gonzalez

        P.C.—

        The Notebooks of Lazarus Long are printed as a sort of intermission between the two halves of “Time Enough for Love”, IIRC.

      • November 30, 2016 at 8:36 am
        Bill G

        My memory says they were broken up into segments and scattered throughout the book. My assumption has always been that these were intended to be considered outtakes from the comments recorded from Lazarus at about Three Millennia of age as he was undergoing the forced rejuvenation.
        They were also published separately, in calligraphy.

      • November 30, 2016 at 12:53 pm
        S Hooks

        I have a copy of that version. The calligraphy and artwork are beautiful. It’s hard to find these days – Amazon offers it through third party vendors.

      • November 30, 2016 at 9:00 am
        noncom

        Stranger in a Strange Land….after reading it 45 years ago, I now find myself identifying with Jubal….

      • November 30, 2016 at 7:26 pm
        GWB

        Amen, brother!

    • November 29, 2016 at 11:14 pm

      I think ol’ Lazarus also said you’re only as smart as the real estate you’re occupying, or something like that. I was 13 when I grokked a stranger in a strange land.

    • November 29, 2016 at 11:40 pm
      eclark1849

      What does that make a court room with 9 judges appointed for life… other than arrogant?

      • November 30, 2016 at 5:26 am

        Swamp dwellers?
        Swamp Rats?
        The Creature from the Black Lagoon X9?
        4 Men and four babies?
        A shared dictatorship?

  • November 29, 2016 at 10:11 pm
    MacLyr

    Actually, I learned it as “N’izvestia v’ Pravda y ni pravda v’Izvestia from my Russian professor.

    • November 30, 2016 at 12:12 am
      John

      Right, “There’s no news in the truth and no truth in the news.”

    • November 30, 2016 at 10:41 am
      Zumkopf

      Exactly, MacLyr. And it makes sense. “Ni pravda v’Pravda y n’izvestia v’Izvestia” isn’t nearly as funny.

  • November 29, 2016 at 10:26 pm
    Rivetjoint

    Chris, my old Russian language instructors at Uncle Sam’s Defense Language Institute varied the Pravda/Izvestia joke a bit by saying there’s no Pravda in Izvestia and no Izvestia in Pravda. Either way, it brings back some great memories of the adventures which followed. Thanks for the memories…

    • November 29, 2016 at 11:56 pm
      Polly Cy

      I shared an office with a DLI grad when I was in grad school. He told the most entertaining stories of people jumping out of windows and collapsing into gibbering idiocy from the pressure. Did you also follow the military paper Krasnaya Zvezda (Red Star)? It had marvelous letters to the editor. Which I and my fellow students had to translate daily. My favorite was a series of complaints after Andropov limited citizens to two bottles of vodka per week. Holy Moly – I think it was as responsible for eventual collapse as economic failure. Well, that and Andropov’s introduction of resealable bottles. “You mean we don’t have to finish a bottle off after we open it? What kind of a killjoy ARE you?”

      • November 30, 2016 at 12:22 am
        fast richard

        A proper Russian Party isn’t over until ALL the available alcohol has been consumed, right down to any aftershave or perfume that can be found. I did learn that on mere social occasions it is acceptable to only sip a little vodka for each toast. The glass only has to be completely drained for the first toast. Also, don’t try to play chess with a Russian…you may not be conscious to finish the game.(that vodka again)

      • November 30, 2016 at 1:01 am
        Polly Cy

        Vodka has been a state monopoly since the time of Peter the Great, so there was never much incentive to discourage overconsumption. Then someone got the bright idea of calculating the number of man hours lost to drunkenness. Oops!

        I played chess competitively back in the … well, let’s just say a long time ago. Cracked the top 100 women before I decided it was making me crazy and quit. (I just coach and give lessons now). A “refugee” player, supposedly from Estonia, tried for months to recruit me, telling me how much the USSR loved intellectuals and how happy I’d be there. Sheesh! That was so wrong on soooooo many levels. Besides, calling someone an intellectual is an unforgiveable insult around here in Middle America.

      • November 30, 2016 at 11:59 am
        John

        The problem with Middle America and Intellectuals is simple.
        It is the rare intellectual who lets things like History and Reality impinge on his/her thinking.
        The Nation has repeatedly rejected the call of Communism simply because it has been tried so many times in this country and failed so miserably every time, and yet the “intellectuals” continue to compromise their credibility by advocating it on an ongoing basis.
        The primary characteristic to be found in anyone who would wear the mantle of Intellectual should be an adherence to ALL the facts, not just the preferred ones.
        It is said that half a truth is a whole lie, and in this regard most so-called intellectuals lie to themselves, and us, a lot.

      • November 30, 2016 at 2:03 pm
        Polly Cy

        Nicely expressed, John. I probably would just have said, “intellectuals are useless twits,” and left it there. I’m a poli sci prof, so I know far more than my fair share of them!

  • November 29, 2016 at 11:27 pm
    WayneM

    Naomi looks like she’s close to having a wardrobe malfunction. I could grok that.

    • November 30, 2016 at 9:30 am
      Grunt GI

      I am not sure that’s a malfunction, lately all the DBD women have been wearing strappy dresses and then they seem to get their Scarlet O’Hara on and have one strap always falling off.

      AND, most of the time it appears they wear little or no undies, also probably be design.

      I approve of this life choice.

  • November 29, 2016 at 11:48 pm
    Deplorable B Woodman

    If the “news” that Skye left was the NYSlime, I wouldn’t use it for a bird cage liner. I wouldn’t use it to start a fire, or even for landfill. I would be afraid that between the paper, the ink, and the “writing” (koff! koff!), that it would be too toxic for any living being to tolerate. What COULD it be used for……??

    Well, I understand that there is a method for killing weeds in the garden by laying down cardboard or layers of newspaper directly on the soil, between the flowers etc. Hhmmmmmm……..

  • November 30, 2016 at 12:04 am
    Tennessee Budd

    Deplorable, the NY Slime has for decades called itself “the newspaper of record”. My name for it is what is now called politically incorrect, but for at least 20 years I’ve called it “the newspaper of retard”.
    Even before the scandals that made it obvious to anyone but liberals or the feeble-minded (but I’m being redundant there), I knew they couldn’t be trusted.
    I don’t think it could be useful for anything. I would never contribute to them by buying it, & I don’t know a single person from whom I could get a used issue of it. I can’t even recall the last time I saw anyone in the real world, not a character on film, reading the NYT. I suppose I might be able to obtain an issue from the local library’s periodicals rack, but that would require touching it. I’ve had my hands on & in some truly disgusting things in my time; that’s part of living in the country. I still won’t contaminate my grubby paws to that degree.

    • November 30, 2016 at 10:56 am
      John D. Egbert

      A colleague of mine in the Public Affairs Office at NAS Willow Grove, PA took the NYT motto – “All the news that’s fit to print” – and corrected it: “All the news that’s print to fit.” This was 1968. History may not repeat, but it sure rhymes.

      • November 30, 2016 at 1:30 pm
        Rivetjoint

        Didn’t the old Mad Magazine used to poke fun at the NYT by posting a front page motto of “All the news that’ll fit”?

      • November 30, 2016 at 4:36 pm
        Henry

        I believe it was “All the news tht fits we print.”

  • November 30, 2016 at 12:30 am

    Speaking of the NYT, this one had to stick in their craw:

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/trump-to-announce-carrier-plant-will-keep-jobs-in-us/ar-AAkW0NP?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

    They toss in a few jabs, that DT forced them to reconsider, and he can’t reverse decades of decay, yadda yadda.

    But what that is right there, is what’s left of the loudest voice of what’s left of the prog machine, saying Trump accomplished one of his signature economic promises before he even takes office. That’s a big fookin’ deal.

    • November 30, 2016 at 12:43 am

      Trump isn’t waiting until he takes office to act like the President.
      At least he isn’t using a fake seal of “The Office of the President-Elect”. He’s actually doing worthwhile things.

  • November 30, 2016 at 2:26 am
    Pete231

    Robert Heinlein proclaimed that an armed society is a polite society. I believe it’s time to reintroduce good manners and truthfulness back into the public domain. Let’s start with the colleges that are infested with the tenured Bolsheviks and the journalism schools cranking out all the young skulls full of mush. The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.

    • November 30, 2016 at 2:49 am

      That is a perfect realization.

    • November 30, 2016 at 5:28 am

      I think it’s past time for America’s youth to become Heinlein’s Stilyagi, and earn the respect of adults.

      • November 30, 2016 at 7:38 am
        MasterDiver

        Perhaps it’s also time to consider the Two-tiered citizenship of Starship Troopers. Keep the parasites from voting themselves more milk from the public teat.

        Zar Belk!

      • November 30, 2016 at 9:53 am

        Now THAT’S a Bingo!

      • November 30, 2016 at 10:59 am
        John D. Egbert

        And a hard revival of TANSTAAFL!

  • November 30, 2016 at 3:51 am
    JimS

    All the news that fits, (our agenda), we print

  • November 30, 2016 at 6:26 am
    Neil Frandsen

    Shucks folks, Glubb Pasha’s little Essay is an excellent backup here. Perhaps the English-speaking Mafia shall be able to reset the Empire time-clock?
    :
    http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf
    :
    Quote:
    (b) In a surprising manner, 250 years
    emerges as the average length of national
    greatness.
    (c) This average has not varied for 3,000
    years. Does it represent ten generations?
    (d) The stages of the rise and fall of great
    nations seem to be:
    The Age of Pioneers (outburst)
    The Age of Conquests
    The Age of Commerce
    The Age of Affluence
    The Age of Intellect
    The Age of Decadence.
    (e) Decadence is marked by:
    Defensiveness
    Pessimism
    Materialism
    Frivolity
    An influx of foreigners
    The Welfare State
    A weakening of religion.
    Unquote.
    :
    :

    • November 30, 2016 at 8:42 am
      Kafiroon

      In any of these “breakdowns”, the rise of “intellectualism” is always the first sign of the coming fall.

    • November 30, 2016 at 10:37 am
      Mort

      The “Cycle of Democracy” … Dr. Alexander Tytler

    • November 30, 2016 at 3:06 pm
      Arkelk

      Could be interesting in applying to the U. S. Do we start with our Independence, the Constitution, or roughly the Spanish-American when we became an international (even colonial) power?

  • November 30, 2016 at 7:41 am
    MasterDiver

    Kipling got it right in “Gods of the Copybook Heading (Pay special attention to the last verse):

    As I pass through my incarnations in every age and race,
    I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
    Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

    We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
    That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
    But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
    So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

    We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
    Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place;
    But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
    That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

    With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
    They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
    They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
    So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

    When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
    They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
    But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “Stick to the Devil you know.”

    On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
    (Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
    Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”

    In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
    By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
    But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”

    Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
    And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
    That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four —
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

    As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man —
    There are only four things certain since Social Progress began: —
    That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
    And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

    And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
    When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
    As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
    The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

    Zar Belk!

    • November 30, 2016 at 7:34 pm
      Pamela

      I put the “Gods of the Copybook Heading” up in the lunch room at my former employer when Barry was elected the second time.
      Very few understood the meaning.

  • November 30, 2016 at 7:42 am
    Pamela

    The MSM does not do a very good job with the issuing of taunts.
    The words mundane, insipid and perverse in the content and delivery come to mind. Nasty, vindictive and bitchy should also be included.
    I’m wondering when one of their commentators will blow a gasket on air.
    Care to place a bet?

    Monty Python did it best with creativity and panache.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8yjNbcKkNY

  • November 30, 2016 at 7:42 am
    Christopher Cole

    My favorite from the “Notebooks” is: Beware of strong drink, for it may make you shoot at tax collectors – and miss

    • November 30, 2016 at 8:29 am
      Bill G

      And then there’s Vox Populi, Vox Dei actually translates as “My God, how did we get in this mess?” from Glory Road.

  • November 30, 2016 at 8:41 am
    Bill G

    The Far Left Times will probably be among the last of the old media to come to grips with the new world.
    Right now the idea the left is trying to circulate is “BEWARE FAKE NEWS” but too many are already looking at their main outlets as prime sources of fake news.

    • November 30, 2016 at 9:05 am
      Pamela

      Does a fake news story fall into the same category as a fake orgasm…
      Might be the reason the Libs are always in such a bad mood.
      Can’t seem to tell real from fake.

      • November 30, 2016 at 11:37 am
        doc

        If they can’t tell a real O from a fake O, then they are not paying very good attention

    • November 30, 2016 at 4:46 pm
      Henry

      They squeal about “fake news,” then they all run like lemming with headlines about this week’s evil “spree shooter,” who then turns out to have had only a car and a stabby (semi-automatic?) knife. “Run away, run away!”

      • November 30, 2016 at 9:19 pm

        Girl und Panzer reference?

  • November 30, 2016 at 10:29 am

    Goes back to “Who decides?”

    Who decides what news is true? Who decides what truth is news?

    For many years they did. Their partisanship and Lies of Omission…and the advent and growth of New Media, have made them increasingly irrelevant, but they think they still do. That is the sign of insanity. And bankruptcy, financial and moral.

    • November 30, 2016 at 11:10 am
      John D. Egbert

      “Who watches the watchers?” There was a time when newspapers were overtly and proudly partisan; no mystery about where they stood. And people regularly read from both (or more) sides, then form their own informed opinions. This state of affairs died out around the dawn of the 20th Century when the German/Prussian model of education was brought to our shores. Coincidence? Not hardly . . .

    • November 30, 2016 at 12:39 pm

      F’rinstance, NYT and WAPO are reporting on a new surge of boat people from muzzieland into Europe, but the Lies of Omission…the defacto fake news that they disseminate (pot, meet kettle), is that urgent flood to get in while the gettin’ is good is not a foreign event, it’s happening right here. I wonder why? And I wonder (no I don’t) why that domestic uptick in influx does not meet their criteria for what truth is news.

  • November 30, 2016 at 11:00 am
    RickS

    NYT, All the News That Gives You FITS! 😀

  • November 30, 2016 at 4:00 pm

    How DARE they defy our censor and our narrative?

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-far-right-has-a-new-digital-safe-space/ar-AAkXvcV?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

    I’m having fun picturing Hillz, Soros, and the NYT editors as they watch their empire being burned and pillaged by these radical interlopers.

  • November 30, 2016 at 5:05 pm
    Interventor

    I have got to break my addiction to nasty comments on HuffPo. But it’s so much fun.

  • November 30, 2016 at 7:03 pm
    NotYetInACamp

    News?
    Truth?
    What’s that have to do with totalitarianism?

    MSM and globalism: REJECTED!

    • November 30, 2016 at 9:00 pm
      Pamela

      NYIAC

      Unfortunately, the MSM is acting like a stalker EX who refuses to be REJECTED. We know with sane people that orders of protection or restraining orders only work sometimes when it comes to obsessing about their love interest. The rest of the time .38 special +P comes into play when they can’t or won’t take the hint or be reasonable.

      I’m not sure what will be required for them to take the hint, just shut the F UP and go away.

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