This train wreck is two-fold… Universities that rely on government money to boost revenue have their hands out. China get’s their loyal puppets into our country , ( because families back home are jeopardized if they don’t comply) to learn the very things that will be used against us by the CCP. And American students miss out on those STEM opportunities as they get pushed aside- Oops! (That’s three-fold)
I’ve read legacy media articles that have claimed that the US Treasury gains millions of dollars per year from fees paid to process H1B visas.
I’ve never read a legacy media article that pointed out that the US Treasury, and state and local governments, lose tens of billions of dollars per year in payroll and income taxes after high-paid US citizens are replaced with lower-paid H1B visa holders.
The ‘reverse multiplier’ effect from lower sales taxes, lower real estate taxes, and the general decline of economic activity when money stops flowing make this loss even worse.
The Chinese students come with government-paid tuition and fees. Some colleges might well suffer financial hardship without that money (or replacement funds from new US grants). Think of it as exporting information. One way of getting ours back.
The negative consequences? Perhaps even more significant than the sensitivity of some of that information is the educational opportunities exceptional US students are blocked from.
Look up the travels of Marco Polo and his kin in China. The reason so many Europeans were invited in over the Silk Route by Qubilai (Kublai) Khan and his family was that the Mongols, not trusting the native Chinese they had conquered, were trying to build up a civil service of foreigners who were at least controllable, even if not necessarily loyal.
The same idea is at the root of post-modern Western government policies. With the addition of hoping for a new class of loyal, one-party progressive voters.
I don’t think the Founding Fathers ever considered that their elected successors would prove as self-seeking and cynical as the likes of Arnold, Burr and Valladingham.
Some of the Universities these foreign students are going to obe going to are Hard STEM Schools. Very little to do with DEI courses(They’re there, Just unlikely the Chinese students will enroll in any of them) And It is highly possible that a fair percentage of these students will a) Choose to Stay in the US and become Americans, and b) Be the type of Immigrants we want and need, per Trump’s First term goals on Immigration.
China will still be getting a boost to their Brain Trust, but I think that for the wages and advantages of even our current and previous government, the ones staying are wanting to have a dream life through hard labor, not a hard life filled with Hard Labor, if you get my meaning…
So, bringing in these foreign “students” is a money issue. Which is the biggest concern with regards to this potential loss of revenue, that the ivy covered bricks of the university might start to crumble, or that the pompous tenured professors might have to take a pay cut?
Universities have become so addicted to the revenue stream of government backed student financial aid that they’ve priced themselves right out of the American market, to the point where they need to import students who have financial backing from their home governments.
On the surface it has the potential to be nothing more than a money laundering scheme.
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Was thinking the same.
Any/all Chinese that come to the US for ANY reason, are directly or indirectly, spies for the CCP.
I trust them as far as I can throw them over my left shoulder with my right arm.
I trust them as much as I trust the sand chiggers (Arab, Pajeet, Hindi, any of them).
Revoke the Visas, all of them. The students, the H1Bs. Anyone else is just a tourist with a short term visa, that should be monitored, and as soon as the visa expires, they’re escorted to the nearest port of debarkation.
Maybe he did the middle class a favor. Maybe our kids(or grandkids in my case) should go to trade school and learn a trade that actually pays well. Cheaper, better return on investment. I doubt robots are going to be able to rewire a main breaker panel for home or commercial applications in their work lifetimes. Or accurately diagnose and clear a sewer line? Or repair a scratched/dented car door?
If every Chinese stem student had to pay not only their tuition, but that of a middle or lower class American in same coursework.
Then it might be a bit more acceptable.
Not enough US stem students in right income? Well China should then lobby changes in US early education and support programs that help such.
Everyone of those students is obliged to collect, some better than others, depending on school and curriculum. Every. Last. One. Kindness doesn’t count. It is an overt attempt to undermine and subvert by espionage colored in academic robes. Try that act over there. Stop funding higher education where it does not directly benefit the U.S.
Given the indoctrination which most universities provide (as opposed to education), the concept of sending a crop of DEI/CRT/Social Justice Wankers back to China almost seems cruel.
One of the biggest reasons is that tuition for ‘foreign students’ is most often double than that for ‘domestic students’, or more.
The universities have thrown so much cash at inflated salaries for professors in departments that don’t teach anything useful, ‘professors’ that couldn’t teach a cat to bury shit but have the right dna or will mouth the right things, that they need all they can steal.
Up here the gov’t is so intertwined with the various schools that they’d suffer withdrawal symptoms if half that money stopped getting kicked back to them by being paid out for their rambling and completely unnecessary speeches.
This little province of less than a million people has 11 (at last count) major universities and a few smaller ones. The foreign students are supposed to prove themselves to be completely self sufficient before attending but they’re stripping the food banks and taking up all the subsidized housing that the rest of us pay for to ‘help the poor’.
Then they either take jobs instead of attending classes on a student visa that expressly forbids them from working, or if they’re in a program that actually does someone some good, like STEM or Medicine, they take those skills back home leaving us with no workers in those fields because they took the seat a ‘local’ could have filled but wouldn’t have generated as much in tuition fees for the schools.
Those schools don’t care if they produce graduates or if the ‘students’ even attend class, just so long as their cheques keep coming each semester and for most of them (read china and india) their fees are paid by their gov’t and they’re expected to conduct a little espionage while they’re here in return.
Meanwhile, we have no Dr’s that can speak English because the medical school seats aren’t available to them, foreign students take priority, the only Dr’s we get are the ones that went to med school in their fifth world country where ‘witchcraft’ is a valid diagnosis, and who were working as cab drivers until someone persuaded the gov’t that there’s no need to pass any examinations here to practice, just so long as they have the fake certificate they brought with them.
Given that “Nothing is real” – (Lennon, 1967) I believe we have no choice but to Trust The Plan. The alternative is doom, and much gloom. Chin up and cheers..
Agreed. Have to go off of results, and I have yet to see a real-world fuck-up when it comes to deal-making. This could be the one, but yeah, benefit of the doubt.
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What in the world is he thinking with teaching Chinese?
This train wreck is two-fold… Universities that rely on government money to boost revenue have their hands out. China get’s their loyal puppets into our country , ( because families back home are jeopardized if they don’t comply) to learn the very things that will be used against us by the CCP. And American students miss out on those STEM opportunities as they get pushed aside- Oops! (That’s three-fold)
Same old, Same old. We all got No value. Anyone else first. And don’t get me started on laying off citizens to hire furners at half or less wages.
I’ve read legacy media articles that have claimed that the US Treasury gains millions of dollars per year from fees paid to process H1B visas.
I’ve never read a legacy media article that pointed out that the US Treasury, and state and local governments, lose tens of billions of dollars per year in payroll and income taxes after high-paid US citizens are replaced with lower-paid H1B visa holders.
The ‘reverse multiplier’ effect from lower sales taxes, lower real estate taxes, and the general decline of economic activity when money stops flowing make this loss even worse.
“American universities would fail…”
That’s a feature, not a bug.
Aaargh.
Just had an attack of Thumbuptis Interruptis.
No thumbs here.
Agreed
And judging from advances in Schooling by Internet we just may have a superior alternative coming up the pike.
The press ALWAYS lies, so the whole story of these people will not be told to the public. Need to wait some time on how this plays out.
The Chinese students come with government-paid tuition and fees. Some colleges might well suffer financial hardship without that money (or replacement funds from new US grants). Think of it as exporting information. One way of getting ours back.
The negative consequences? Perhaps even more significant than the sensitivity of some of that information is the educational opportunities exceptional US students are blocked from.
Look up the travels of Marco Polo and his kin in China. The reason so many Europeans were invited in over the Silk Route by Qubilai (Kublai) Khan and his family was that the Mongols, not trusting the native Chinese they had conquered, were trying to build up a civil service of foreigners who were at least controllable, even if not necessarily loyal.
The same idea is at the root of post-modern Western government policies. With the addition of hoping for a new class of loyal, one-party progressive voters.
I don’t think the Founding Fathers ever considered that their elected successors would prove as self-seeking and cynical as the likes of Arnold, Burr and Valladingham.
But here we are.
clear ether
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I don’t know…
Some of the Universities these foreign students are going to obe going to are Hard STEM Schools. Very little to do with DEI courses(They’re there, Just unlikely the Chinese students will enroll in any of them) And It is highly possible that a fair percentage of these students will a) Choose to Stay in the US and become Americans, and b) Be the type of Immigrants we want and need, per Trump’s First term goals on Immigration.
China will still be getting a boost to their Brain Trust, but I think that for the wages and advantages of even our current and previous government, the ones staying are wanting to have a dream life through hard labor, not a hard life filled with Hard Labor, if you get my meaning…
There is a very ugly word for a woman that compromises her principles for money.
Starts with a “W”.
So, bringing in these foreign “students” is a money issue. Which is the biggest concern with regards to this potential loss of revenue, that the ivy covered bricks of the university might start to crumble, or that the pompous tenured professors might have to take a pay cut?
Universities have become so addicted to the revenue stream of government backed student financial aid that they’ve priced themselves right out of the American market, to the point where they need to import students who have financial backing from their home governments.
On the surface it has the potential to be nothing more than a money laundering scheme.
Rule number one: Follow The Money ! !
If Chinese students are required
to report back to the CCP why would
we double the number allowed to
come study here?
Did P. DJT misspeak? WTF?
Was thinking the same.
Any/all Chinese that come to the US for ANY reason, are directly or indirectly, spies for the CCP.
I trust them as far as I can throw them over my left shoulder with my right arm.
I trust them as much as I trust the sand chiggers (Arab, Pajeet, Hindi, any of them).
Revoke the Visas, all of them. The students, the H1Bs. Anyone else is just a tourist with a short term visa, that should be monitored, and as soon as the visa expires, they’re escorted to the nearest port of debarkation.
Maybe he did the middle class a favor. Maybe our kids(or grandkids in my case) should go to trade school and learn a trade that actually pays well. Cheaper, better return on investment. I doubt robots are going to be able to rewire a main breaker panel for home or commercial applications in their work lifetimes. Or accurately diagnose and clear a sewer line? Or repair a scratched/dented car door?
If every Chinese stem student had to pay not only their tuition, but that of a middle or lower class American in same coursework.
Then it might be a bit more acceptable.
Not enough US stem students in right income? Well China should then lobby changes in US early education and support programs that help such.
Everyone of those students is obliged to collect, some better than others, depending on school and curriculum. Every. Last. One. Kindness doesn’t count. It is an overt attempt to undermine and subvert by espionage colored in academic robes. Try that act over there. Stop funding higher education where it does not directly benefit the U.S.
Given the indoctrination which most universities provide (as opposed to education), the concept of sending a crop of DEI/CRT/Social Justice Wankers back to China almost seems cruel.
Nowhere have I sen any differentiation: are these Chinese students coming from the PRC (ugh), the Republic of China (yay), or a mix?
Off Topic headline: “Man Charged with Homicide After Slipping Abortion Pills to Girlfriend – Do Officials Realize What They’re Admitting?”
One of the biggest reasons is that tuition for ‘foreign students’ is most often double than that for ‘domestic students’, or more.
The universities have thrown so much cash at inflated salaries for professors in departments that don’t teach anything useful, ‘professors’ that couldn’t teach a cat to bury shit but have the right dna or will mouth the right things, that they need all they can steal.
Up here the gov’t is so intertwined with the various schools that they’d suffer withdrawal symptoms if half that money stopped getting kicked back to them by being paid out for their rambling and completely unnecessary speeches.
This little province of less than a million people has 11 (at last count) major universities and a few smaller ones. The foreign students are supposed to prove themselves to be completely self sufficient before attending but they’re stripping the food banks and taking up all the subsidized housing that the rest of us pay for to ‘help the poor’.
Then they either take jobs instead of attending classes on a student visa that expressly forbids them from working, or if they’re in a program that actually does someone some good, like STEM or Medicine, they take those skills back home leaving us with no workers in those fields because they took the seat a ‘local’ could have filled but wouldn’t have generated as much in tuition fees for the schools.
Those schools don’t care if they produce graduates or if the ‘students’ even attend class, just so long as their cheques keep coming each semester and for most of them (read china and india) their fees are paid by their gov’t and they’re expected to conduct a little espionage while they’re here in return.
Meanwhile, we have no Dr’s that can speak English because the medical school seats aren’t available to them, foreign students take priority, the only Dr’s we get are the ones that went to med school in their fifth world country where ‘witchcraft’ is a valid diagnosis, and who were working as cab drivers until someone persuaded the gov’t that there’s no need to pass any examinations here to practice, just so long as they have the fake certificate they brought with them.
It’s too late for us, save yourselves.
Given that “Nothing is real” – (Lennon, 1967) I believe we have no choice but to Trust The Plan. The alternative is doom, and much gloom. Chin up and cheers..
Agreed. Have to go off of results, and I have yet to see a real-world fuck-up when it comes to deal-making. This could be the one, but yeah, benefit of the doubt.
Most universities are anti-American Woke/Communist indoctrination centers, so I would be happy to see the majority of them go under!