I was being bullied by a clown who was considerably taller than me. Then he found out that the short would-be victim could duck under his grip and crotch-punch him!
Whites in the GOP, and before them, the federalists with a few ‘Democratic Republicans) tossed into the mix, fought for liberating Slaves. Please note that I said ‘Slaves,’ And not ‘Black People.’ That’s because white people were sold into slavery as well. Anyhow, it was the Southern, Democrat-run states that insisted on a system of slavery to allow for large scale agriculture. Slaves were cheaper(Supposedly) thanpaying free men. Had tempers on both sides been kept in check, the Industrial Age would have seen Slavery die a peaceful death by the 1880s, maybe even early 1870s, as educating slaves would have been more costly than hiring people.
“… the Industrial Age would have seen Slavery die a peaceful death by the 1880s, maybe even early 1870s, …”
Agree with this as I have seen this assessment several times. The only quibble seems to be the timeline with most arguments leaning towards the early 1900s. Of course that timeline means another generation of slaves so CW-1 was justified in the eyes of some.
Regardless, mechanization would have killed off slavery eventually. The care and feeding of farm implements is far less expensive than supporting humans.
And yet in 2025 all races struggle for or to maintain their little piece of freedom. If that horrific war was fought to end slavery (It wasn’t), then that side lost.
May 23, 2025 at 12:56 pm
James/G
yes. But the main point was a peaceful death would have been far, FAR, better for the Nation than what the Civil War left in its wake, the violent death of Slavery, which led to 95% of the race problems in the US and the world today.
Had Slavery ended peacefully, there would not have been a need for the Civil Rights Movement, Jim Crow laws, Bussing and Desegregation all the rest of it. The only reason for specific Regiments in the Army would have been elitism and tactical advantage, for example, and instead of the acrimony such units received when they were first conceived aft the ACW-1861-1865, and later in WW I and WW II, except maybe the 442nd Nisei Regiment(Japanese Americans, royally Rogered by the General who had charge of them. THAT Asshole should have been Cashiered for his tactical abuse of them). But had it gone the right way, the level of Racism we see to day would not exist. At worst, it would be 10% of what it is today. My two cents.
May 23, 2025 at 8:16 am
The 300
The South instituted black slavery because the average life expectancy of white indentured servants in the malarial areas of the plantations was two years.
Northern industrialists found that it was cheaper to underpay free workers than to use slaves that required food and housing. It’s one of the reasons the North got so much richer so much faster than the South and won the Civil War. Once Eli Whitney invented the cotton gin, slavery’s days were numbered and probably would’ve been done with by the 1870s.
Actually, the invention of the cotton gin revived the fast-becoming-unprofitable cotton industry and EXTENDED the reign of slavery.
May 23, 2025 at 10:30 am
Shonkin
Henry is right.
The cotton gin made it profitable to grow short-staple cotton. It extended the range of King Cotton and therefore of slave-worked plantations far inland. If not for that, places like northern Alabama would have been like West Virginia — populated by free people who owned their farms and mostly grew food crops or raised livestock.
May 23, 2025 at 6:43 am
Dastardly Dan
Secession was about slavery.
The war was about secession.
The former states of the CSA were and are held in bondage to the Union, that was redefined by Lincoln and his cronies.
My first ancestor to arrive here was a Scottish POW of the Brits … sold at public auction. I was taught we didn’t invent slavery we ended it – here at least.
Slavery has existed ever since the first hominid found out he was stronger than another one and it exists, even flourishes, today largely in Africa and Arab areas where it’s been a way of life from time immemorial…and it always will.
Nobody ever asks how all those slaves came to be slaves.
If anyone owes ‘reparations’, it’s the people that took them by force and tried to sell them in the first place…other tribes…then they can go after the ‘arab’ traders that bought and sold them.
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Could be their gibbous is waning.
Took bloody long enough.
I must say I learned a new word today though!
I read that as “…gibbons is waning”.
Bullies are best handled one on one with overwhelming force…in process as we speak.
I was being bullied by a clown who was considerably taller than me. Then he found out that the short would-be victim could duck under his grip and crotch-punch him!
Zar Belk!
Whites in the GOP, and before them, the federalists with a few ‘Democratic Republicans) tossed into the mix, fought for liberating Slaves. Please note that I said ‘Slaves,’ And not ‘Black People.’ That’s because white people were sold into slavery as well. Anyhow, it was the Southern, Democrat-run states that insisted on a system of slavery to allow for large scale agriculture. Slaves were cheaper(Supposedly) thanpaying free men. Had tempers on both sides been kept in check, the Industrial Age would have seen Slavery die a peaceful death by the 1880s, maybe even early 1870s, as educating slaves would have been more costly than hiring people.
“… the Industrial Age would have seen Slavery die a peaceful death by the 1880s, maybe even early 1870s, …”
Agree with this as I have seen this assessment several times. The only quibble seems to be the timeline with most arguments leaning towards the early 1900s. Of course that timeline means another generation of slaves so CW-1 was justified in the eyes of some.
Regardless, mechanization would have killed off slavery eventually. The care and feeding of farm implements is far less expensive than supporting humans.
And yet in 2025 all races struggle for or to maintain their little piece of freedom. If that horrific war was fought to end slavery (It wasn’t), then that side lost.
yes. But the main point was a peaceful death would have been far, FAR, better for the Nation than what the Civil War left in its wake, the violent death of Slavery, which led to 95% of the race problems in the US and the world today.
Had Slavery ended peacefully, there would not have been a need for the Civil Rights Movement, Jim Crow laws, Bussing and Desegregation all the rest of it. The only reason for specific Regiments in the Army would have been elitism and tactical advantage, for example, and instead of the acrimony such units received when they were first conceived aft the ACW-1861-1865, and later in WW I and WW II, except maybe the 442nd Nisei Regiment(Japanese Americans, royally Rogered by the General who had charge of them. THAT Asshole should have been Cashiered for his tactical abuse of them). But had it gone the right way, the level of Racism we see to day would not exist. At worst, it would be 10% of what it is today. My two cents.
The South instituted black slavery because the average life expectancy of white indentured servants in the malarial areas of the plantations was two years.
Northern industrialists found that it was cheaper to underpay free workers than to use slaves that required food and housing. It’s one of the reasons the North got so much richer so much faster than the South and won the Civil War. Once Eli Whitney invented the cotton gin, slavery’s days were numbered and probably would’ve been done with by the 1870s.
Actually, the invention of the cotton gin revived the fast-becoming-unprofitable cotton industry and EXTENDED the reign of slavery.
Henry is right.
The cotton gin made it profitable to grow short-staple cotton. It extended the range of King Cotton and therefore of slave-worked plantations far inland. If not for that, places like northern Alabama would have been like West Virginia — populated by free people who owned their farms and mostly grew food crops or raised livestock.
Secession was about slavery.
The war was about secession.
The former states of the CSA were and are held in bondage to the Union, that was redefined by Lincoln and his cronies.
First point is totally false; slavery was used as an enabler and qualifier for your second statement and the rest of your post which is totally true.
In modern times, it would appear that
Robots are destined to replace human
tasks and maybe even people themselves.
Robot at the bar to another robot “want
another glass of WD 40?”
AOC would be serving them. Cheaper than robots.
What’s scary is the AI bot bartender would probably be more intelligent!!!
how do I change my avatar?
My first ancestor to arrive here was a Scottish POW of the Brits … sold at public auction. I was taught we didn’t invent slavery we ended it – here at least.
Slavery has existed ever since the first hominid found out he was stronger than another one and it exists, even flourishes, today largely in Africa and Arab areas where it’s been a way of life from time immemorial…and it always will.
Nobody ever asks how all those slaves came to be slaves.
If anyone owes ‘reparations’, it’s the people that took them by force and tried to sell them in the first place…other tribes…then they can go after the ‘arab’ traders that bought and sold them.
I never gave money to a bully and don’t plan on starting for the gimmiedats. I always fought.