February 28, 2015 Future Tense. by Chris Muir Share this Share: Tag:Americans, Family, Statist Takeover
Damn! It got dusty here all of a sudden.
Are you saying it’s time yet?
A possible future is all.
Possible, but not probable. See my responses further below.
Swear allegiance to the flag,
Whatever flag they offer;
Never hint at what you really feel.
Teach the children quietly,
For, someday, sons and daughters
Will rise up and fight while we stood still
Mike and the Mechanics
Possibilities. The question is whether we can have a soft reboot or if we will need a hard one.
The hive dwellers, Ed, will NEVER settle for a soft reboot. Neither in the Blue hives, nor in the Red ones either.
You really ready to kill half your neighbors?
“You really ready to kill half your neighbors?”
Only those that oppose the Constitution.
The rest I have no quarrel with.
jpm100, I don’t reckon I’ll have to kill any of my neighbors. ‘Tween the famine caused by the collapse of the transportation grid and oath breaking federal troops trusting the chain of command I figure the only “neighbors” of mine I might have to shoot will be bandits and home invaders and they don’t count as neighbors in my book.
The regional divisions we see in election results are generally only determined by a few percentage points one way or the other. Things are more divided all the way through that I think people like to believe.
As a member of the Red hive, I welcome a soft reboot, just not the soft reboot the Republicans and the gimmedats propose.
As a matter of fact, that such a reasonable and just reboot is still possible is the only thing saving the Repubs. and the gimmedats.
When we as red hive members finally come to our senses, all bets are off.
These next 20 months are certainly going to get tense.
Obama is inside the Republicans’ OODA loop. He’s acting faster than they can react, even if they had the balls or desire to react. Since impeachment is off the table and Obama seems hell bent to ignore the courts, this has a good chance of not ending well. At best, it’ll likely take decades to undo the damage Obama is doing. Even that depends on electing people who want to undo the damage. Between Demecrat corruption of the voting process and Obama working to legalize millions of new Democrat voters, what are the odds that a restoration-minded conservative will ever get elected again?
What Republicans? There aren’t any left.
I’ve been saying for years that the Second American Revolution will occur before 2025, and I see NO reason to have altered that opinion since I first started voicing it, back in the early 1980s… It was just that, back then, people would look at me strangely. Today, they just nod sadly.
Scenario 1: Major natural disaster such as a New Madrid Event 2.0 or Carrington Event 2.0. When the EBT cards stops working, the fun will start. Ferguson will be a preschool playground in comparison.
Scenario 2: Nuclear strike on Washington and/or NYC. Either muslims or Russians or both working in concert. Same end game. The ethnic tensions so clearly present in this country will explode. And with 300 million guns in private hands, the blood will flow.
In either of these, there is no happy ending. Foreign elements will take advantage and make moves both here and abroad to benefit themselves.
Pray, both for yourself and what will be left of the greatest nation in human history. You may be sure it will be ugly.
I disagree. It will be when/after the dollar collapses. QE-to-infinity (and beyond) will eventually lead to it.
No disagreement here. The catalyst may be different, the end result will be the same.
Wishful thinking. Balkinized (un)United States is a much more likely fate. Especially if (when) the muslims detonate their nuke(s) in Washington and/or NYC.
When the EBT stops working the game will be on, and the zombies coming to your house will be real. Remember to keep them away from firebomb tossing distance.
Might be a good time to get into brickwork… Because fuck firebombs.
Metal roof is most important also. But keeping them away is the best option. High capacity mags and clear fire lanes swept with plenty of rounds downrange are excellent zombie repellent.
A Dr. Andrew Lobaczewski from Poland wrote a book named “Political Ponerology,” from ‘poneros,’ Greek for evil. Dr. Lobaczewski was fully familiar with psychopathy as described by Dr. Hervey Cleckley and by Dr. Robert Hare.
Dr. Lobaczewski projected well beyond contemporary psychological thought. Dr. Lobaczewski noted the cycle of hysterical periods where everything went to hell, followed by stable productive periods. These cycles lasted decades or centuries. Hysterical eras were marked by loss of social discipline, dishonesty, and mental aberrations. Psychopaths gained power and brought their countries to defeat, discipline and stability returned, and the cycle began anew. Some psychopaths were known as spellbinders because of their ability to lead otherwise rational people into self-defeating actions.
Napoleon, Lenin, Hitler, and Obama had the characteristics of spellbinder psychopaths, but there were other psychopaths such as Stalin.
Psychopathy is the world’s worst and most destructive mental disorder. All psychopaths fail. Psychopathic failure entails massive moral, social, and economic costs for everyone. Perhaps we have learned enough to mitigate the effects of the psychopath now occupying the White House.
About Stalin…with a 25% annual growth, from near zero to rival the USA
with his gulags…About Mao, his China overtaking the US, with his LaoGais still operating…both died in their sleep…Same with Gengis Khan and Tamerlan…
It’s less that individuals are psychopathic; those will always be with us.
The genuine destroyer of civilizations is psychopathic philosophies. Most of which come from the premise that a person, or group, or “movement” can be perfect, “sans pure et sans reproache”, and thus immune to criticism or any sort of alteration or correction.
Modern-day progressivism operates on the basic principles of a psychopathic philosophy;
1. Civilization is inherently evil.
2. Our philosophy is irrefutably good.
3. We are therefore perfect.
4. Thus, we have the privilege of deciding everyone else’s lives, up to and including the time and manner of their deaths.
5. Anyone who disagrees with our premise is evil and must be destroyed.
6. We will not kill those who obey us- unless it would amuse us to do so at some point.
Although a charismatic leader can be the trigger that sets off the bomb, it isn’t individuals who you need to worry about, as much as it is the philosophy that the individual latches on to. Stalin and Mao didn’t create Communism, Genghis and Timur were the results of blood feuds within tribalist cultures, and Hitler didn’t create German National Socialism, he just gave it a name.
Mass movements tend to begin with “philosophers” who rarely go on to lead them. Plato, Marx, Alinsky, Qutb, to name just a few. (I could list a dozen who sent Germany and the world into a nightmare, beginning in the mid-19th Century.)
“Charismatic” leaders don’t tend to be the philosopher type. They are by nature opportunists who seize on something that’s already there for self-aggrandizement, and to punish the world for not giving them what they think is their just due.
If you want to stop such men from creating holocausts (Genghis killed about 40 million, for instance), first keep watch for philosophies that they will be able to use to justify their actions.
Near the end of the Cold War, the CIA estimated that Soviet military spending and GDP were half that of the US. The military spending estimate was correct. The GDP estimate was in error — it was only 25 percent of the US’s. A major reason for the Soviet collapse.
Your observation on Stalin and Mao are correct. Due to space and time limitations, I did not completely spell out my understanding. Napoleon, Hitler, and Tojo were psychopaths who were soundly defeated, ending their psychopathic states. France, Germany, and Japan then rejoined the community of nations as productive members. The Marxist psychopathic system and the militant Islamic psychopathic system have continued for decades and centuries, respectively, with one psychopath succeeding another in corrupt and incompetent splendor.
Thanks Chris, you captured what I was trying to get at.
If it means the Republic reborn, Jetson cars, love, appreciation, and vivacity for the children and grandchildren we sacrifice for and leave behind…go ahead and book me an early plot there by Zed and Sam; it what our parents from the Greatest Generation did for us after all. I do believe it’s the only way.
Too many internet warriors forget that the blood watering the tree of liberty, sometimes belongs to the righteous.
Gee, thanks, jakee308, for stating the bloody obvious.Get off your high chair and realize perhaps others than you know this, you sanctimonious ass.
So, you mean like in the saying “The tree of Liberty must, from time to time, be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots“? I think Chris gets that.
I’m a dinged ex-GI, and I am willing to get dinged again, buster. I have forgotten nothing.
If you count yourself among the “righteous”, but shy from the possibility of having your own alabaster bod at risk… then perhaps, jakee, you are not OF the righteous, but of the enemy of what America used to be.
Even though I’m a fat one-legged 100% disabled Vietnam combat Veteran, I hope the stuff starts before I die. Got my scooter all charged up and ready to go….
Less than 20 years. And apparently armed revolution. Or civil war? Whatever, Zed is a soldier. His Oath to defend has no expiration date. And in war there are always casualties. And I can’t see Wade or Sam letting him fight alone. But I don’t like the inference, Chris. Not one damn bit.
Spent today at the range teaching a potential son-in-law handgun and shotgun safety and use. Better used time than I spend trying to help folks who won’t take charge of their diet and lifestyle during the week. Hope it makes a difference.
On the lighter side, you are implying that clothes are still utilized in 2032? Damn, I was so looking forward to enjoying a more classical view in my 80’s.
Don’t want pendulous body parts caught in moving machinery parts (tits in the wringer). So some semblance of clothing will always be worn throughout time.
I was thinking the same thing… then I realized that was an elbow. 🙂
“What is fig-leafed is often more titillating than what’s out in the open”- RAH.
Bare skin on a shapely lady- nice. Skin covered by something colorful and skintight- often beyond nice.
As a side note, I wonder what happened to Skye, Eva, and Hugo? Ditto ‘Toly and Naomi?
“I must study politics and war, that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.
“My sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history and naval architecture, navigation, commerce, and agriculture, in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry, and porcelain.”
— John Adams, 1780
Indeed, for decades, I have anticipated “Unintended Consequences” for these Fascists in their campaign to destroy this Republic. They blinked at the Bundy Ranch … in large part, I believe, because they knew they were poised at the cusp of active armed resistance and they were not ready. We must defeat them, definitively, through peaceful means if we are to avoid the destruction of America. As satisfying as it would be to eradicate these vermin, down that road lies massive, open, foreign intervention. Then again, they lose nothing should this happen, as it is their ultimate aim in any event. This makes the FCC / Obongo actions this week especially ominous.
It’s time for an American long-term fundamental transformation-back to the Republic.This time, we boil their frog slowly.
“…an American long-term transformation…”
Ideally, if it remains an option.
But the chronological setting of today’s ‘toon, does not indicate it.
The uprising, I fear, will come sooner than later.
Immigration, or more correctly abdication, will be the catalyst.
Stop that, and maybe there can be an American long-term. That won’t happen if the Dims or Rinos (but I repeat myself) remain on the throne.
I was at a pro-gun rally in concord,NH a few weekends ago. it’s amazing how many people were passing around anti-convention of the states petitions…something about how “special interests will corrupt any convention”. I asked them “so, by your definition, a civil war is inevitable then. there are no other remedies. excuse me, I need to go home and reload a few thousand more rounds. idiots like you are throwing out the constitution in the name of saving it, and there will be blood on our hands and shame in our hearts for not trying”
I too have had recent conversations with devout conservative, 2nd amendment types who are anti-convention of states. they feel the left will corrupt anything we try to do there, and will take away our 2nd amendment while we are looking at taking away Oba-Mao care… I too came to the same thought as you. If there is no peaceable way to mend our union, then…
Unfortunately I may be swayed to agree. The right in DC has no spine, and veers left all too often even when they possess the power. Maybe the left metro-sexualization of men has worked and there simply are not enough balls left to fight.
Am I the only one who feels like it is St Crispin’s Day… We few, we merry few…
I miss America…
The problem is not now, and never has been, simply tyrants imposing their will on us. No, it is – and has been – the corruption of the soul of the voting public. This corruption leads to the invitation to the tyrants. A Constitutional Convention will be composed, primarily, of those corrupted
Unless we can 1) change all those hearts or 2) divorce ourselves from them, we cannot hope to win if we lay our Natural Rights open to a vote. They will be whisked away in a moment. We must divorce those who have actively given up their liberty before we can return to a Free Republic.
The problem with a Constitutional Convention is not special interests per se, but rather of whom it would consist. Since there is no set procedure for selecting Delegates, those selected will almost certainly be people already with political power – in other words, those responsible for the mess in the first place. And it is naive to think that a Convention could be kept to a narrow agenda; after all, the original Constitutional Convention was supposed to just fix the shortcomings of the Articles of Confederation, not replace them. Given those points, and that very few in public office are of the caliber of the Founders and will certainly lack their selflessness, it is my opinion that a Constitutional Convention would CAUSE a civil war, once they tried to shove their new Constitution down our collective throat. So let us hope, pray and work to prevent a Convention, as it is hard to stuff that mushroom cloud back into that shiny Plutonium sphere…
since the delegates would be from the state legislatures..and as such closer to us, and “just down the street”…they should be easier to keep on track. if they try to pull a “let’s re-write the whole thing” we can manufacture emergencies that will pull the plug. they would only have the authority given to them anyways..rambling about, mucking up the bill of rights, would be outside of thier abilities.
we have to give it a shot. either we follow the constitution or we don’t. this convention of the states IS constitutional. if we don’t try it all we are saying is we WANT a civil war….and that makes someone what we used to call a “botany problem”…a fruit, a plant, or a nut.
allen, there is absolutely NOTHING that requires that a Federal Constitutional Convention be comprises of any State-appointed folks. It is the Federal Constitution, and the Federal Government will have authority to control, when, where, what, who and how, and since there has never been any precedent under our existing form of government, nor of the preceding, since that Convention was during a time of technical anarchy, and was a Convention of the various States, not a Article V Convention. So, while the States would have to ratify (by a 3/4 vote) anything coming out of such a Convention, there is nothing that says that the States have anything to say about it other than demanding that one be held. Once that quorum of States has made their request, that ends it, as far as the Constitution says. If I am wrong, please feel free to show me where it says so, and please be specific.
“on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate”
they can propose amendments to be ratified. on order of the state legislatures. to be ratified by those state legislatures just like any other amendment. that’s it. the language is very plain. if they go beyond that they are unconstitutional. period.
all this does is bypass congress. nothing else is changed. congress is compromised, and useless. if you’re worried about things being hijacked THIS HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. congress is already hijacked, and we’re not going to change that. with a few minor exceptions everyone we send to that cesspool is infected, and becomes useless in short order.
we cannot go to the cartridge box until we have exhausted all constitutional remedies. this is a constitutional remedy. it may not work. we don’t know that yet until it has been tried. at the very least, it will buy us time. time to bring more people around. time to prepare.
unless you’re one of those guys that wants the shooting to get started RIGHT NOW and just get it over already? in which case..The Doctrine of No Fort Sumters is in effect. you lose the moral high ground, you lose public support, and YOU LOSE. and then we all lose. don’t fire the first shot..fire the last one.
Amen. As an acquaintance of mine says, “In the entire history of the world, no people have ever VOTED themselves freer.”
Tell me Ghost, the stone is without a date. The Future is not written yet.
Though there are those who are trying to pre-cast our Nation into chains with malevolent intent.
What concerns me about a second Constitutional Convention is that there are essentially no limits on what it can do. Remember that the original one was called for currency reform and wound up giving us a new government. We lucked out then; would we luck out a second time? That said, the only peaceful resolution to the current situation I see is a massive voter revolt so big that the progressives can’t steal it.
Constitutional Convention is a left wing term. It is a Convention of the Various States and not the all powerful terror camp the MSM and all the other talking heads wail about. It is a part of the constitution meant to be used when the Constitution, and America itself are in peril. That time is now. We, and everything we know and love, are in peril.
Additionally, if/when a Convention of the States is ordained and convened, it will be for the express purpose of considering several sharply and closely defined proposals, or else it will never happen. A “hijacking” of the convention will just not be possible; the entire Constitution will NOT be on the docket — thereby being preserved and protected in its entirety. This fact must be stressed over and over, at every opportunity, to counteract the poison being spread by LSDs, quislings, and other like travelers.
Once the Convention has been convened, ALL options are on the table – no matter how “sharply and closely defined” the proposals.
The Convention can, indeed, be ‘hijacked’; and the fascists will do everything in their power to do just that. And do you actually believe that the professional politicians sent by the people will have the balls to fight the fascists?
For now, a Constitutional Convention should be the last thing patriots want. It would be like being allowed to go to the hardware store to choose our own chains.
Have you ever listened to Mark Levin? I’d be confident that he weighed both sides of the argument before writing “The Liberty Amendments”. The convention of the states is simply the best of the worst options available, I don’t think it was ever intended to be more. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. When good men are forced to do evil, those that have been comfortable with evil will receive no mercy, for they deserve none. Cancer is never cured by “leaving a little”.
CC…a can of worms in both the most figurative and the most literal senses. Don’t open it.
Mark most certainly has considered both ends, and he is also cognizant of the fact that it is most likely the last step before bloodshed.
To all of you who believe it will result in a runaway, you do realize that 3/4’s of all the states must ratify any amendment coming from said convention?
I finally found the actual proposed text of these amendments.
Even stipulating for the moment that the convention doesn’t pose a hazard, I really hope Mr. Levin runs his wording past someone else. Section 6 of his judicial review requires a 3/5ths vote of every single state legislature, rather than a vote of 3/5ths of all state legislatures, as he seems to think. Of course maybe he intends to require a supermajority of every single state legislature, but that would never ever happen. (Can you imagine CA or HI voting to overturn a gun ban? They and the other 48 states would each have to do so, as currently phrased.)
“Upon three-fifths vote of the several state legislatures, the States…”
is a very different sentence from “Upon the votes of the legislatures of three fifths of the several States…”
I’d also rather have a sales tax than an income tax. If you can only have one. (I definitely don’t want both.) A sales tax means the government has no reason to be nosy about how much money you make or what you do with it; you can hide knowledge from them about your life by paying cash.
(cont’d) He made the same grammatical mistake in his amendment regarding the states overriding laws and regulations.
His amendment requiring congressional review of regulations “hard wires” a lot of congressional organization (e.g., “minority leader”) and federal bureaucracies (GAO amd CBO). The unintended effect of this is to require that these bureaucracies exist. Far simpler, I think, to require all of congress to vote, via roll call, to approve all regulations, individually, without amendment. And re-approve them every three years. (It should be a fairly speedy process with no opportunities to amend.) They function as if they were laws, they should meet the same procedural hurdles.
Do you mean he was consistent? If so, it seems that would indicate it was as intended. Mark doesn’t seem the type to be sloppy in phrasing.
@Paul… The way he phrased it makes it almost impossible for the states to override a federal law (they’d have to unanimously, 50-0, reject the law, with supermajorities in all legislatures). Basically as impossible as it is now. That’s why I can’t believe it’s not a mistake.
…I should state (just for the record) that I approve of the *intent* I perceive behind most of these amendments; I just don’t think he phrased a couple of them correctly.
“I’d also rather have a sales tax than an income tax”
Really? Join me in Western WA state and see how you like it then. Frankly it sucks! The tax collectors just call all the additional de facto taxes something other than “income tax” and let the counties levy them. Lived in ID for a year, paid both Sales and State income taxes, and was able to save more while making less, go figure.
Remember that the Levin amendment says ONLY an income tax. No other taxes period. I’m just saying that I’d rather it say ONLY a sales tax. Income taxes give the government a reason to be nosing around in your private life and to discourage a cash economy because you might be trying to hide income. Given that a sales tax is collected by a business, the government needn’t see what the customer did, just what the business did. The best way, though, to make sure people don’t evade taxes is to keep their level low (have government spend less money). As for Washington vs. Idaho, I’m not surprised Washington with all those Seattle area liberals taxes you hard. (And now they’ve screwed with your 2A rights pretty drastically too.) Colorado is fortunate in having pretty solid tax limitation. (You should hear the CONSTANT b*tching of the politicians about it, too! Doug Bruce’s name is a curseword to a government functionary here.)
May the future of America be worthy of your work Mr. Muir.
Better to perish in the Freiheitkampf (Freedom struggle) than survive to see defeat.
So… twenty more years of dbd? If CM can keep it up that long, that is.
I hope I’m around to see it but I doubt I will be.
I thought Mari and Kiko were twins.
Maybe the sisters are fraternal twins?
Third kind of twins.
So I close DBD and open the Daily Mail and what is on the front page? Talk about coincidence!
Powerful Chris, powerful… We have a chance to stop this before it happens if Americans have the will.
I have never seen a comic strip with such a thoughtful and intense thread of comments! Thank you Chris Muir for your gift to us.
How do we reboot our country in an age of psychopathy, narcissism, and lack of the basic values of survival? The solution originates from our roots. It does not originate from the top down.
It will not originate from a convention of the states where it will be co-opted. I think that federal bankruptcy will force the reboot. Venezuela is a prime example of the process today. The dictatorship, oligarchy will grab all the resources until there is nothing more to loot.
We are not alone. The world is going mad. We are not the only ones.
But back to roots. What makes you happy and your life meaningful? Get your head squared away. Then those values apply to your family, then your neighborhood. Then community. Perhaps state.
The federal government is at this time unsustainable. We are going to go through hard times. People with strong roots and stout hearts will survive and thrive in the long run. Much of the herd will be culled in the hard times.
Anybody who thinks an Article 5 convention would be a good thing needs to read Bracken’s “Enemies” trilogy. I am convinced that Bracken’s vision of a convention hijacked by progressives and the resulting “Constitution” being a prog’s wet dream is dead center spot on. I thing the Republic needs a full hard-drive wipe and the operating system and apps reloaded from scratch. That is traumatic enough with a PC. A real-world equivalent will be a nightmare. Regardless, we need to restore the republic to a pre Marbury-vs-Madison state. We most DEFINITELY need to purge all traces of the trend to administrative law that has prevailed for almost a century.
Yes a Con-Con would be held in the District of Corruption and staffed by Obama, mc Connell, Reid, Boehner, Fienstien, Holder and Jarret…our bill of rights would be put thru the shredder in 1 second.
Do you think article 5 would be followed? Hell no … It would be modified so that ratification of the states is not needed in our modern times…we have the states representatives right here in the District of Corruption.
Matt Bracken nailed it in his books…a Con-Con will rip up our constitution and bill of rights…..don’t bite on this deadly hook!
I distrust the calls for a Constitutional Convention or Revolution at this point.
The Founding Fathers had the advantage of centuries of study and debate on the theories of government that led to the Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
What has not been addressed since then is the problem of systemic corruption of Government.
Things like the Public Choice problem of visible benefits vs the accompanying insidious costs of Government, and the erosion of Rights by language creep (think Living Constitution) have to be seriously considered in advance of any radical change or we will be right back where we started, or perhaps even behind.
Why not a few simple constitutional AMENDMENTS? They only require 2/3rds of house and senate to be sent out to the states…don’t need presidential involvement.
We have much better protection than a Con-Con.
We should be able to get some southern and mid-western Dem senators to get on board…especially with local pressure on them and threats to take them out at the next election.
IF we can’t get this done…how the hell will we get it done with a Con-Con?? THINK people…a CON-CON is Obamas and Hillarys wet fantasy….don’t fall for it for the love of God and our nation.
1. Repeal obamacare just like the 21st amendment repealed the 18th amendment.
Thanks Chris, for all that you do, and for boasting COS.
Sadly, the Zeitgeist is against us at this point. How long it will take to swing back in our direction or what it will take is unknown. Great installment Chris.
The crew that put Obama in office are experts at stuffing conventions and caucuses. Remember that Hillary won the primaries and Axelrod arranged to bus mystery voters to stack the caucuses in key states. Also the Party Elder Superdelegates that were created after the debacles of 1968 and 1972 were designed to keep out someone like Obama, as was the Electoral College, and all the safeties failed. I fear that an Article V convention would produce a copy of Stalin’s Soviet Constitution.
Gee, I sure hope some of you folks are my neighbors! When the SHTF, it would be nice to know I won’t be alone. It would, in fact, be a warm&fuzzy to know people like you are close by, covering my six while I reload in order to cover your six.