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  • wxwzrd

    Lit her ass up like a Christmas tree….

  • JTC

    Don’t know how he got around there without her seeing him to hold her in the across the lap position and get extra licks in, but at least he’s back on the “right” side. Now, whether he’s IN the right, at this point? We shall see.

    • Looks like he’s standing next to her and holding her down on the hood of the car to me.
      Back in the day when a car’s hood wouldn’t cave in under a little weight.

      • JTC

        Right, but yesterday she was looking around to her left in anticipation and he was off the right rear (Mmmm!), “winding up” with his left hand. Now he’s corrected that (he’s a rightie) and gotten beside her on the left where she would have seen him coming, or not coming as it were, and gotten wise to the real plan. He’s restraining her with his left arm (on the lap, hood, whatev), and whacking it good and proper with his right. (“good” and “proper” open to debate in this context).

        Hey, if some can bust down the fourth wall from this side and call a cartoon depiction a criminal DV act worthy of walking out on the show in progress, I can engage in a little pedantry as to the mechanics of it all. 😉

        Chris, got the copy of my sponsored episode “walking it back” in today’s mail. Awesome ‘toon, awesome commentary on it, and awesome of you to go to the trouble of sending it out to me. Thank you!

  • Sorry, this is just wrong. I’m a long time fan, but beating women is beyond the pale.

    • Ozymandias

      I have to agree with you.

    • Kevin M

      No it’s not wrong; it’s unimaginably minor stuff compared to divorce or genuine violence (and I used to work in a Boston E/R). I’ve seen people sent to the E/R with a 7-iron, not a ping pong paddle.

      I do find it odd that Sam thought she would get away with this little stunt. She should know her husband better by now. Frankly, I think she kinda wanted this.

      • Yes, that’s what some people say about rape victims,isn’t it? That ‘she wanted this.’ Sorry, I don’t agree.

        • NotYetInACamp

          Without opining on that, I will say that Zed almost engaged in intercourse against his will. I’d call being tricked into sex with a woman he is not in love with could be, and should be, considered rape. All of the feelings felt after a rape could be in play. Sam has violated many things with her breach of trust. That breach could have cost them all that is great that they have. Communication is the most important aspect of building all that is good in many relationships, as I see it.
          So far, I, personally, have only hit a female after she hit me. That one time was a 6th grader when I was in fourth grade, and she out sized me and outweighed me considerably. It was only after the fourth attack by her kicking me hard. The Monsignor took my side against 4 women (3 nuns) who wanted me hung.

          • Spud Koolzip

            I think the three nuns wanted you hanged, not ‘hung.’

          • DonS

            Considering that any attention, even bullying, at that age may indicate interest the child doesn’t know how to express otherwise, it may be your attacker wanted you hung… LOL! (And, yeah Spud, I meant “hung!”)

    • Poppa_T

      This is not a “beating”… as John Wayne and Maureen O’Hara so aptly portrayed in McClintock…this is a teaching moment.

      At times we must teach our young children with corporal punishment or an obnoxious drunk with an “attitude adjustment” not because we want to but because it’s necessary.

      Sometimes it may become necessary for the “pater familias” to remind their bride that he IS the head of the household. There might be some temporary trauma but NO serious injury, and it must be done with love, not anger, in their heart…but sometimes…

      A Mans gotta do what a Mans gotta do.

      • Jeps

        She is not a child, and a husband is not a parent to his wife. This is demeaning and abuse, Zed should have done what Sam didn’t – *talk*. If Sam just «takes this» – internalizes the blame (it’s my fault, i made him do it, he won’t do it again), iit’s straight out the beginning of an abusive relationship.

      • GC

        This is assault against a family member, a felony.

    • Polly Cy

      Yep. To quote the late, great Jeane Kirkpatrick, “I might take that more seriously. . . as a wife.” (Ethics in America, “Public Trust, Private Interests.”)

    • “beating”? it’s called a spanking. there is no beating going on here. as far as anyone here knows, this may be something she likes.

      I know I’ve dated redheads that would be quite mad if you didn’t spank ’em good and hard prior to other activities.

    • Johnny Z

      I’m with you there

    • Rick

      truth.

      regardless of your kink or not, you never spank while angry.

      If you wanna play it out or whatever based on your dynamic, AFTER things have been resolved.

      • Chris Muir

        Like Bill Murray to the groundhog, ‘Don’t drive angry, don’t drive angry!”

  • And no, this isn’t some kind of consensual erotic ‘spanking.’ He’s hurting her.

    • Sam

      He’s not “beating” her. He’s spanking her. It’s called corporal punishment. When a child misbehaves when they know better, they have earned a spanking. She misbehaved. She admitted it. (Remember a couple days ago: “I should have told him.” repeated 4 times in one panel?)

      She may or may not know it, but he may have come darn close to potentially messing with her sister much further than a little tittie tickle. And he’s right to be mad at her for that. Sam knew her sister was a virtual twin at that point, and she knew he didn’t know yet that Skye was there. And knowing Zed’s tendency to fondle his wife, she should have foreseen the possibility that he might run into Skye in the dark and get frisky.

      Remember: Spare the rod, spoil the child. He’s not using a rod; he’s using a paddle. He won’t leave a scar, but she’ll be sure she doesn’t do something stupid like this again.

      • PeanutGallery

        “Spare the rod, spoil the child”

        She’s not a child. She’s his wife. He’s demonstrating exactly how mature and intelligent he is by thinking he can and should discipline her the same way he does a dog, instead of… I don’t know, talking to her as an adult, an equal, the mother of his children, and the other 50% of their marriage.

        Did she screw up? Yeah. You deal with that like adults do and hash it out with intelligence and problem solving. He’s addressing the problem like a petulant, stupid child. “ME ANGRY, HIT THINGS, FIX PROBLEM, THAT’LL SHOW HER”.

        My respect for Zed as a character, and for his judgement, just dropped to pretty much zilch.

        • meistergedanken

          In America a wife is merely the oldest child in the house.

    • idahobob

      Oh, good grief.

      If you do not like what you see, snowflake, I would suggest that you go elsewhere.

      Bob

    • DonS

      …and you know that how? This is Chris’ story, his characters, and if two consenting adult ‘toons can trust each other enough to find pleasure in resolving their emotional tension with a couple swats on the ass, as prelude to fabulous make up sex, MYOB. Sam knew when Zed said “drop ’em and bend over” this first course was on the menu; thus, she is consenting. Hurting? With a PP paddle? Gimmeabreak! And though this would never happen in my own marriage, the tremendous popularity of 50 Shades indicates there are not just a few women who would enjoy submitting to their man, if he is loving, self-controlled, and understands the difference between a spanking and abuse. Go see DBD April 22, 2012, if you think Sam couldn’t possibly get into it with Zed! (…and he would NEVER leave bruises).

  • Deplorable B Woodman

    Ok. Angry is angry, but don’t take it from punishment to abuse.

  • Grunt GI

    Ok

    I’m just gonna say it.

    Don’t believe everything you see.

    Chris is tricky. Remember the spanking Damon gave Jan a few weeks back?

    My bet is Zed has better things to do with dat ass than use a ping pong paddle on it.

    Yup. I said it—stay tuned.

  • formwiz

    It is her sister. And he knows that “touch” should have been reported.

    Ol’ Zed is way wrong here and trying to convince himself it’s all Sam’s fault.

    • Sam

      Once her spanking is done, I’ll bet he explains why she earned it, and that includes telling her what happened. And what could have happened in his ignorance.

      • Okay, this sounds within reason as a path.

  • KenH

    Look closely at the last panel, girls:

    Does Red paint her fingernails BLACK??

    • Sam

      She was working on the car. That’s dirt and grease.

      • KenH

        My, how PERFECTLY symmetrical of her…
        Worked on machines much?
        No way

    • Kevin M

      WINNER!

    • Larry

      Actually, she does. Look back on the 20th. Sam has black nails and Skye has red nails.

      • KenH

        Something funky going on here (or its continuity error, but I dont think Chris would do that) they change colours.

        • Chris Muir

          It’s continuity error,Ken,apologies.

  • Lee

    If my husband were fool enough to do this to me, he’d be sleeping in the doghouse for a week — at least.

    • Mogrith

      Even if you were foolish enough to that to him…

      • Jeps

        She’s letting him off easy. If my husband did this to me, it would end with the 2A. And the quickest, ugliest divorce in history if he survived.

        • Wicked Duke

          No, actually in that case, the odds are high that you’d be in jail, and your children would either be living with him (if he survived), or in the foster care system (if he didn’t).
          Oh and you’d probably be completely broke, too.

          If you own/carry for self defense, you need to know the actual law where you live, as well as the basic laws of the land.

          You can’t respond *that* disproportionately anywhere in the US, regardless of your violent little killing-fantasy. So yeah, you’d almost certainly be spending time in jail, and then you’d definitely be spending boatloads of money on lawyers, all of it on gambling with your future freedom.

          And, in the event that you ever do get involved in such an unfortunate event, the process of discovery could – probably will – find your comments here. Boy howdy, wouldn’t an aggressive, anti-gun DA in an election year have a field day with your comments, and throwing in terms like “premeditated”…

          Seriously, no snark, and not kidding in the slightest: you REALLY need to learn the laws governing the legal use of lethal force for self defense in your jurisdiction.
          Because you are making some *truly* bad assumptions.

  • Tom

    I’m done – I was hoping you weren’t going in this direction, but you did. YOU DON’T HIT WOMEN. You’ve lost one viewer with this one.

    • Chris Muir

      Bye.

    • JSStryker

      See Ya!

    • noncom

      Was that the sound of the door hitting you in the ass on the way out?….

    • pool dog

      see ya

    • Chris Muir

      Argh, it was a long night. Apologies to Tom.

  • WhiteKnightLeo

    I can appreciate this.

    If Skye was correct and Chris’s depiction of Sam’s reaction to rejection was right, then Sam was feeling horribly guilty – and she was the reason for what happened with Skye and Zed.

    This will balance the scales between them. And Zed is old-school this way – and Sam appreciates that aspect of their relationship. If anything, she might respond positively to this.

    Or not. Maybe she’ll be incredibly angry. But I can see this happening in a relationship like theirs.

  • Stormhawk

    Thinking this is more an erotic dreamscape. The question is who is the dreamer

  • Stormhawk

    Folks, think about it. When Skye got herself run out of town the last time, she was told she’d go to jail if she came back. Would Sam or Zed put their friend the sheriff in such a spot by harboring a fugitive? Risk that own arrest and what would happen to the kids? Another thing, do any of the people there strike as the type to play ping pong? Where would Zed get the paddle from? Calling dream sequence on this one. And betting it is either Sam or Skye having it.

  • Lonny Bridges

    The question I have and no one has brought up yet, “What was Skye doing lurking in Zed’s bedroom, with him asleep??”

    HHHMMMMM??????

    • JTC

      Maybe no one has brought it up because it didn’t happen?

      As I said at the beginning of this little Peyton Place story arc, none of this is on Skye, at least as far as we know. All she has done is straighten herself out and come back to where she is loved and has the role models for the life she now knows she can and should have.

      Sam effed up bad bringing Skye back without Zed’s full knowledge and agreement, which he might have given based on reports from MamaSan of Skye’s transformation. But now Zed’s effing up worse if a couple of swats doesn’t turn into his embracing and forgiving her, to her genuine and very physical apologies and reparation. Way better lesson for her if she came looking for him after beating on the car and he was nowhere to be found; that would scare the shit out of her and really teach her a lesson.

      • NotYetInACamp

        So! Who did shoot JR? 🙂

        • MasterDiver

          Some one who needs more range time to improve their aim!

          PS-Chris, got my sponsored trips in yesterday’s mail. Thanks!
          Ed

          Zar Belk!

  • JohninMd.(Help!?!!)

    Chris, care to give the heathens any commentary on this? Or a longish panel to clear the air? Just wondering…..

    • Chris Muir

      It’s no dream, and Zed is no white knight.

      • Lucius Severus Pertinax

        True! But I still have deeply ambivalent feelings about this.
        It is conditioning, I suppose-
        The Commandment- “Thou shalt NOT hit girls” was cold-forged into my backside by my Dad when i was 8 years old; worst ass-whuppin’ he ever gave me. Worse, his ANGER, at the time, was TERRIFYING.

        • doc

          So the ass-whuppin’ had the appropriate teaching effect, and properly altered your long term behavior?
          Sounds a little like what Zed is trying to do here.

  • If this is some kind of dream sequence (and I hope it is) fine. But it bothers me quite a bit that a number of commenters seem to think this is some kind of macho behavior. It’s as if some fans of what’s in the Qur’an showed up to enjoy this.

    Sam isn’t a wayward child, she’s an adult and Zed isn’t ‘Daddy.’ You don’t treat your wife, your partner in life this way. Not ever. And vice versa.

    • Gundo

      Not every marriage is between two partners who are equal in every way in every situation. I’d guess most aren’t, whether spanking is ever involved, or not. Zed is clearly the physically and sexually dominant partner, and Sam likes it that way.

      If Zed is trashing his marriage over being left out of a decision, that’s one thing, but I think that’s unlikely. My take: Sam acted unilaterally, and Zed is acting unilaterally in a response designed to convince Sam that he’s not going to put up with being left out of a decision, especially when that leads to an embarrassing experience for him. He’s expressing his anger physically, but not in a way that is going to lead to genuine injury, nor long-lasting resentment.

      A brief spanking, in a situation like this, can serve as catharsis.

  • SheepDog

    I agree totally, you don’t treat your partner like that. And I hope that Sam has learned that lesson. If this had happened to me, being in Zed’s shoes, I’d have told them both to pack their bags and get out. Sam can come back when she’s ready to be a partner in the situation, and not until then.

  • fortyback

    All right, who had the over / under on two whacks total?

  • Pamela

    I’ll wait to see the outcome

    • GWB

      And I’ll wait to see what you have to say. I respect your opinion (though I might disagree).

      • Pamela

        As the Greek storyteller Aesop wrote, “Appearances are often deceiving.”
        Or, there is more than meets the eye to this scenario.

        • John

          I agree.
          And wouldn’t it be interesting if Zed was spanking her to _relieve_ her guilt?

          • Pamela

            Another possibility. There was a time when people did self flagellation to atone or walked on their knees as penance.
            Some still do.

  • JTC

    So, notwithstanding the post title, and to paraphrase a great movie line, “this ain’t no game, flash…real betrayal, real violence, it’s dangerous.”

    As is real life.

  • Hold on, we’ll see what happens. Chris is an extremely good story teller, and this plot will but thicken.

  • cz93x62

    The flat of a ping-pong paddle makes a pretty crummy striking tool. “Beating?” If it proceeds to a “beating” (legal definition–corporal injury or traumatic condition) then Tucker needs to haul Zed off. The End. The recipient has a voice in this matter, in fact is THE VOICE in this matter. Sam is no shrinking violet–she is as likely to pick up and wield a breaker bar across Zed’s skull. That might do Zed some good in return. Days ago, I called Skye a “Traviesa”, and trouble follows such people around. She has no ability to make a positive contribution to this world, so her contributions are negative, divisive, and destructive. FWIW, I have never been real fond of the whole Double-D Ranch arrangement, it seems about one notch to the right of a Nevada brothel. My wife or daughter working in such a place? Over my dead body.

    • Chris Muir

      Never heard from cz93x62 before.Ever.

      • cz93x62

        Not on this subject. I have made a few comments in the recent past. I have been a reader since 2003. I did spend 28 years of my life sorting out domestic disputes of all sorts, from onlooker-reported shouts to spousal/significant other homicide. I think I am qualified to assess an occurrence of this sort, though I expressed no firm view of its circs. I did express a view of the business environment in which the characters work, and how I would feel about my loved ones working in same. I am mindful that not one of these characters actually exist AFAIK. If you would prefer that I cease commenting–or that I cease readership–please advise, and I will comply with your wishes.

        • Not at all.Please continue.

    • Jeps

      Yeah. An iron bar, or bullet, to the head is exactly what Zed has coming, and what any sane, self-respecting woman would give him. Followed by divorce papers, if he lives.

      • for a few swats on the ass? yeah you don’t go overboard much.

        • Jeps

          For being abused, and demeaned, for someone thinking they have the *right* to «discipline» – to violently dominate or forcefully «correct» my behavior – because they are man and I am woman (and because that puts them in an authorative position in their mind – like some in the comments seem to think).

          So yeah. Darn right the marriage *would* be over, as well as his life if he didn’t immediately desist and back off the moment I got my hand on my gun.

          • JTC

            Sorry lady, people with a mindset like yours are among those who should not carry or have access to lethal force.

          • “he..sniff..came at me with a PINGPONG PADDLE so I shot him!”

            yeah, that’ll go over well in court.

            suddenly you start using first person pronouns…sounds like you have issues to deal with that have nothing to do with the comics.

          • Jeps

            allen
            Being physically overpowered and beaten certainly is grounds for self-defence, at least in any sane «stand your ground» locale.

  • Aldo Cella

    Zed is giving Sam the physical version of the disrespect she’s given him. Her butt may hurt for a few minutes, maybe even the ten minutes Zed had to wash his hands. Tat for tit, in this case.

    What’s Sam gonna do – call the Sheriff? That should work out nicely for Skye.

    • MasterDiver

      The Cha must be balanced!

      Zar Belk!

  • Kafiroon

    So we have somewhere about 30% of 40 feel this totally wrong.
    OK. At those odds, we are totally doomed with the black power, islamics and other “feels” people in this country. There is no way to return to rule of law that is for all people. Obama gave nuclear secrets to the Russians. Hillary, among her many crimes, gave the country away on her bathroom server. Note the Chinese swept up our humint right after she did that. A Christian baker gets fined out of business but moslime can tell the gays to f. off, from their business. Do I need to go on? Y’all should know enough on your own.
    I am getting convinced there will not be anywhere enough peoplemen to fight for this country against all those that willingly surrender to just “get along” to be killed last.

  • JIMV

    Sorry, unsat…men do not hit women, especially over pique!

  • GreyStranger38

    Ok all you white knights riding in here to save the day for womyn… Uh. Yeah. If my wife decided to invite her insane clown car of cousins over to stay with us without telling me a word about it, and I had groped one of em in the dark by accident, (after explicitly telling her they were never to set foot on my land again) a mild paddling should be the least of her worries. I am sick of women shit-testing their men this way and then getting off scot free when the situation explodes in the man’s face and he has to pick up the pieces. Sam deserves what she’s getting, and my wife agrees. We have been married for over 10 years, and together for much longer and she has never pulled a stunt like this. I love her and respect her, I listen to her, and take care of her, but she also has responsibilities and duties as a spouse. Women DON’T get a pussy-pass. Now I will say anything physical beyond what has already happened is where I draw the line. Zed, point made. Sam? Learn from it. Skye? Take it all as an object lesson in the consequences of female stupidity/ass-hattery. And now lets all move on to the I forgive you’s and (when her ass isn’t stinging) the excellent after-fight sex. For balance ya know.. 🙂

    • Chris Muir

      You read the next day’s toon, or what? heh.

    • Steve W

      Thanks for injecting some sense into this beta male hand-wringing asshattery that’s been already published. And you’re right, the makeup sex will no doubt be glorious. The interesting thing will be what Chris does with Skye now. She’s still got the full leftist bimbo retard thing going so don’t expect shame or regret. This was a surprise from the two sisters, Chris, I gotta admit!

      • Pamela

        Chris Sweetie~ Would you mind adding some steamy shower sex for afters…

    • pool dog

      Amen

  • Bosco

    Really hope this ends up being some odd dream sequence, because, yeah, like others this isn’t funny or entertaining. Physical violence as a next step to a disagreement or even argument is just wrong between people that supposedly love each other.

    • Chris Muir

      Never heard from Bosco before.Ever.

      • Bosco

        Kind of tells you something doesn’t it? I have actually commented a couple of times long ago on other ones I found hilarious. Been a long time fan. This just struck me as wrong. I was raised you never, ever hit a woman, especially in anger. Yes, I know there are cases with self defense or certain women who are violent and initiate. Sam and Zed didn’t appear to be a couple like that.

        This is, by far, my favorite comic and usually my first to read when I start my day. Today it lost some of its shine. I hope it changes as some sort of dream sequence or a twist like you are good at.

        As for those claiming finding spanking a woman is wrong somehow beta male….please. As a veteran who has seen more violence inflicted on other humans than most I am far from being beta. Zed is suddenly a man who has ro resort to violence as his only option to a problem? Sam was wrong. Way wrong. Suddenly treating her as a wayward child is out of character. Just comes across as being so emotionally immature and that has never seemed to be a trait of Zed’s.

        That being said, it is an artist’s perogitive to entice reactions or even get a rise of folks. Stir a discussion etc. He’s done that for sure. Doesn’t mean we all have to like it.

        • Chris Muir

          Hang in there,Bosco!

  • NotYetInACamp

    We really smacked a nerve here today. 🙂

    • JSStryker

      Great ain’t it!

      • NotYetInACamp

        “I like this place. It’s exciting.”
        🙂

    • Pamela

      Just like getting a session of acupuncture.
      Bound to hit some really sore spots that will send some folks to screaming bloody murder. Or it can be cathartic and bring about healing.

  • NotYetInACamp

    Zed was almost raped.

    In case anyone missed my earlier comment.

    • Pamela

      People will say you escaped being raped. Then wonder why there is a change in the “Almost Raped” person’s demeanor. It is still frightening and unsettles the sense of being safe and well being. As a Survivor I can attest to how long a road it is to getting back to thinking you are safe and knowing you are safe. Not counting all the trust and intimacy issues that tag along with the violation of self.

      • NotYetInACamp

        Several friends experience such. One former girlfriend I had to acclimate her to even being around a man again. She is now happily married and it seems well enough in the past. Others still had it with them. But they survived the incidents when they almost were killed. So much that can’t be said. The violation is so serious.

        • Pamela

          NYIAC

          I found that when a victim looks up from the floor when talking about her rape, it’s at that moment she becomes a Survivor.

  • Chris Muir

    Count the whacks.And is Sam smiling…or grimacing?

    • Grunt GI

      Hmmmm, I did stare at that last panel a good long while trying to figure that out…I’m going with smiling.

      Reading all the commentary, I can’t help but think of that OTHER great John Wayne-Maureen O’Hara movie “The Quiet Man” where he finally gets fed up with her sh** and drags her whiny ass through the village to settle their differences.

      The sexual tension between them in that movie is simply magnificent and it’s the ONLY John Wayne movie my wife actually likes. And she totally agrees with John Wayne in that instance….Maureen got what she deserved. And yes the smokin’ hot resemblance to Sam is remarkable, she was a beautiful woman.

      The hand-wringing is fascinating. Goodness, it’s a cartoon…where Chris gets to express his opinion through fantastic art. Yes, as many other commenters have said, few things spark an intense couple fight like crazy-ass relatives. I have had more than a few of these with my bride of nearly 30 years.

      Oh, and just to be clear, smacks on the ass tend to be very loud for the amount of actual pain they cause….just sayin’…..

      And yes, there is no better sex in the universe than make-up sex…..can’t wait to see what happens next.

      • Cookie Ogre

        John Wayne and Maureen O’Hara play out a similar scene in “McLintock”, though a bit more for laughs. Seriously, Zed could do more real harm with his bare hand than a ping pong paddle, and it does maximize the noise nicely.

  • JT

    Gotta disagree with those who say a man never hits a woman no matter the circumstances. During my 17 years as a cop in SoCal the ratio of men to women that resisted arrest was 5 women for every one man. Most of those women had the notion that they were immune from any physical contact, hence could/would not be taken into custody. Some were brawlers, particularly the gang bangers. The times they are a-changing. I am glad to have escaped to a place where, by and large, folks act like ladies and gentlemen.

  • Subotai Bahadur

    OK, speaking as one who has in the line of duty picked up the pieces of domestic violence incidents, and who before I became a Peace Officer made it quite clear to the then husband of my little sister that if I ever heard of him laying violent hands on her again that he would be a) castrated and b) disemboweled by me with the large CQB knife on my belt [they were in the end stage of their divorce] I have a couple of thoughts.

    1) What Sam did was the kind of thing that permanently breaks relationships. Zed is in the position of being totally betrayed by the woman he love(d?) and arguably been subjected to sexual assault.
    2) His choice is either submission for the rest of their relationship and not being able to trust Sam at all, ever again, to just leave, to kick Sam out permanently with a divorce (with all that entails), literal homicide with target selection being determined inside of his own head that may not be operating rationally, or some serious and memorable act that may or may not restore some semblance of status quo ante.
    3) These are NOT a good set of options. But they are all he has. They have been imposed on him against his will. And keep in mind that the first 3 are not really viable and the fourth not being recoverable.
    4) Zed has been backed into a corner and betrayed by Sam and Skye, and he by nature is not the type that will accept that without reacting. Otherwise he would not be Zed.
    5) There really is no “talking it out” for a combination of sexual assault and betrayal of trust in a couple. It does not re-establish trust. It just postpones the choice of the first three options. An American woman would scream to her feminist goddesses if she was expected to suck it up and not react.
    6) I don’t know how this will turn out. I will leave that to our host. The last option may not work, but the situation was set up by Sam and Skye, not Zed.
    7) I don’t know if this exactly fits, but something I remember from my working days. If you can use the word, the “nicest” murderer I ever met was a decorated SF SGT who came home from a deployment and literally caught his wife in bed with another man. He killed the man with his bare hands, and called the police and turned himself in. He just reacted to the betrayal. He got life without parole, and from what I hear he is about the only sincere Christian lay preacher in the prison system. Zed could do or be doing worse.

    Women can do irreparable harm as well as men.

    • Dread

      Yeah! What you said. Exactly!

    • doc

      well said

    • Pamela

      Wisdom comes from experience and observations. You are wise.

  • GC

    And that depicted here is assault. And since it’s against a family member and, if I recall, in Texas, it’s a second degree felony, which makes it 2 to 20 years. Well done.

    This is not only wrong, it’s very, very stupid.

  • Hardball

    Zed suffers from mad AND guilt.

  • Halley

    Being an alpha male is easy – said no one, ever.

  • JackDeth72

    Zed so out of character…

    Clever, Chris….

    Is anyone else glomming onto the possibility that these past few comics are an erotic substitution fever dream of Skye’s while Zed and Sam are cuddling asleep in bed?

  • Halley

    The title says Game Time, not Corporeal Punishment. Sam laid herself down voluntarily, and I am not at all worried about the inevitably erotic outcome.

    • Pamela

      A play on words ~ Corporeal vs Corporal.

  • Neil Frandsen

    Grin. Considering the equipment of any old-time Ranch, including Arms handy everywhere, I remember Sam being very handy with all tools.
    Zed does have a plan, is starting working thru it.
    From my p.o.v., from birth in the Crowsnest Pass, thru Alberta’s Rocky Mountains, and childhood experiences with female fellow children of the mountains, Zed’s plan best include serious communication, after he completes his application of really getting Sam’s attention.
    Serious Communication includes _listening_ Skills, as well as talking skills.
    Combing out the hurt feelings, and urge to yell “you idiot”, before speaking, is hard to do, but speeds up getting down to the hard part, building a new way to communicate, without the hidden actions. Both Zed, and Sam, are gonna be walking the Adult’s walk, I am sure.

  • Bill

    Touché Zed.

  • Rox

    Holy Crap……. Don’t believe I’ve ever seen so many snowflakes on this site before. You candy asses are way too serious. This is all behind closed doors kids, it’s none of your damn business. Got the children all stirred up huh Chris. Or is that the point? Heh.

  • gafling

    Dittoes, Rox re the snowflakes. Besides no matter who is swinging it, the flat side of a ping-pong paddle will hurt no one. If Zed were really pissed and intended to inflict real pain, he would have selected a willow switch or something like that.

    Zed is just trying to make a point. Besides we still don’t know if Sam knows about the incident with Skye. That admission may even things up.

  • Precision 270

    And the right became the left before my eyes. “Beating a woman”. I guess my late wife and I were co abusers when she would ask for a physical reminder to impress upon her the lesson of why our relationship was rocky (her fault). It was her way of taking a mental note and opening herself up to the make up / forstalling the rightful break up ideas. When I did really dumb stuff, she only had to look at me with hurt in her eyes. I needed no reminder beyond that.

  • GWB

    Spanking someone – and yes, in a very few cases, an adult should get a spanking* – is NOT the same as “beating” them. Subotai nails it with the level of broken trust here. Spanking Sam is a good alternative to other possible courses of action.

    However, I suspect – as some of the replies here suggest – someone (read – “one of the leftists”) will try to make hay out of this down the road. And I’m betting Sam will refuse to testify.

    • GWB

      Forgot my asterisk…..
      (* And some adults should get an actual beating. That’s been discussed here, extensively, I believe. It’s often the more civilized course to not deliver one. In the long term, however, foregoing that beating might not benefit said civilization.)

  • Jess Sain

    A lot of hand wringing here. I must be getting old and should tell the twisted fingers group you need a time out. All better? I came from the dark ages where the Penguins could “beat you” when you were out of line.

  • Dread

    She has demeaned and hurt him and their marriage. This is not a beating, its a demonstration of the pain caused, and affords them both an opportynity to atone and mend. What the hell?

  • OpenTheDoor

    Hey Zeus Christy, I never knew there were so many beta males reading the strip. A couple of whacks on the ass with a Ping Pong paddle isn’t ‘abuse abuse’.
    Sam could be modeled after my lovely wife, redhead, engineer, independent, conservative, carries, HOT, yes, I am blessed. She knows full well pulling a stunt like this would not be greeted with beta acceptance. Besides, she kinda likes it when I go a little Marquis on her. Who did Scarlett really love, fairy Ashley or alpha Rhett?
    All you betas relating this to rape, or real abuse, it’s a cartooooon, get a grip. Zed isn’t bad, he’s just drawn that way, SJWs are a scourge.
    There has to be a price to pay, now all you femnazis, STFU and read the story.

    • Jeps

      If it is «alpha» to become physically abusive because of «hurt feelz» or bruised male ego or whatever, then the SJW «war on masculinity» is fully justified.

      • OpenTheDoor

        Meah, keyboard warrior.
        I hope for masculinity’s sake you’re single, or maybe your husband deserves you.

        • Jeps

          Not single. I would be if my man laid a finger on me – in anger or for some show of dominance or to «correct» my behavior like I was a pet or child. And he’d be dead, or just divorced, depending on how quick he was to realize he messed up, and backed off.

          «Keyboard warrior»? No, but I own a gun. And this strip – or to be precice; the comments here, remind me why that is a good idea for any woman. Ego-tripping men who think their physical advantage gives them the right to physically dominate women, for whatever justification, should always end up staring down a barrel.

          God made men AND women, Colt made them equal.

          • JTC

            As I commented above, this lady? is a homicide waiting to happen. I refused the sale of a firearm to many who displayed the mindset she does.

            The threat -the actual desire- to put one between the eyes of someone -anyone- that they believe they can call justified, is as great a risk to the Constitutional right to carry a lethal weapon as any leftist prog out there.

            I actually fired a manager of one of my pawn/gun stores -an ex cop- because I came to believe he was looking for a chance to off somebody, and actually felt frustrated that he had been theretofore denied that opportunity.

            Scroll back up and look at all of Jeps’ comments and see if you don’t agree she fits this documented profile perfectly. I would bet that truth be told, any and all relatives and associates of hers would privately agree, and are scared of her. They should be.

          • Jeps

            JTC
            Some of you men really are terrified of losing the monopoly on violence you think your greater strength should give you. That said, I only advocate defence or retaliation.

            Men have no need to be afraid of me or women like me; only of using physical force against us. *Which is how it should be*, regardless how sore their pride is or how «redpill alpha» they want to be or how justified they otherwise feel.

            Don’t physically hurt or threaten me, and I won’t do the same to you. Do, and I will defend myself and/or retaliate. Simple. Very simple. Why is this an issue?

            Zeds feelz are hurt? He’s sore because Sam invited family into HER home without begging his permission like a child? Tough. He can talk it out with her, adult to adult.

            If Sam bows her head and takes this, my respect for her char will turn to pity, as it would for any battered and subjugated part in an abusive relationship.

          • JTC

            Gender is irrelevant here; you display psychopathic tendencies.

          • Jeps

            JTC
            Self defence and holding your own against ppl who want to hurt and/or physically dominate you, is not psychopathic. It is quite natural. And gender is relevant, as the only reason people here think Sam should just «have to take this» is bc she is a woman and Zed is a man.

            I doubt many men lolling this off would do the same if another man tried to physically overpower and «correct» their adult ass. Regardless how justified that man felt. In fact I’m certain many would have the «guns out, stand ground» response to that, that I think an appropriate response from Sam (or from any woman whom a man tried to assault like this irl).

          • Jeps

            Kafiroon
            Yes. I have made up my mind to use whatever force needed to stop any man who would lay his hands on me. Whether it’s a stranger or a husband, done in rage or as a show of dominance.

            This is only a problem for those who think men should have the right to use physical force against women – to correct or dominate or vent their bruised male ego, or whatever – without fear of the «lesser creature» harming them back.

            And the problem IS them, not me, not women who think like me and refuse to submit to male dominion.

        • JSStryker

          I have to agree, internet tough girl and if she is real then as JTC said a homicide waiting to happen.

          • OpenTheDoor

            Sam is a cartoon, and so is she, eh?

          • Kafiroon

            Jeps mindset is definitely primed for violence/murder. People that have already made up their minds what they would do in certain situations, have already gamed it out and will naturally fall into that planed reaction. It’s some times called training. Also premeditated.

      • LowKey

        @ Jeps
        You know, you’re right.
        It would be more PC and so much better for their relations ship for Zed to make a lesson about the pain and damage cause by betrayal of a spouses trust by videoing himself having sex with her sister. That would be so much better and less harmful to the relationship than two swats with a ping-pong paddle. Far less insulting to her dignity.
        As to treating her like a child, well she acted like one by lying and trying to conceal the truth until she was caught.

        Your statements here put me in mind of the apocryphal exchange between Nancy Astor and Sir Winston Churchill.

        N. Astor: “If I were your wife I would put poison in your coffee.”
        Churchill: “If I were your husband I would drink it.”

        • Chris Muir

          Winner.

      • NotYetInACamp

        Let the SJW’s take on Islam.
        Zed’s property (Sam) would be dead in an honor killing by now if this were Islam. And fully backed by all of their community that might speak up.
        How about machismo in Latin culture.
        we are dealing with a breech of communication and responsibility in a team.
        From your view it seems, the only option open to Zed after his near rape experience is to kick the beotch out of the house and strip her of all of his assets that he can. Great life you envision for people. You live your life that way. and if you think that males want to pork any bitch near, even when they are in love with one woman, get real. I do know men like that. I actually hope that you don’t have one, nor a Muslim. Submit to all seems your demand of the Western male. Then we can have France. Women not needed protection as you demand, results in Swedish rapes and all those in Europe. Go be a woman in Malmo and act like Western men protect here, there. You want slavery and property and the woman dead, go to Islam. Go to much of the world. Our civilization still might disappear anyway as so many want it destroyed and are actively at war against it. Then this issue so many are excited about will not exist.
        I have said that a good neighborhood is one in which a 12 to 30 year old woman can walk at any hours unmolested. There may be a few left, somewhere. Those two Maureen O’Hare characters both got stuck on stupid in not communicating. They then had the choice to leave after the john Wayne character cleared the air against Maureen’s character’s wishes.
        look at what Obama and Hillary have done to women’s choices and rights across the Mid East and North Africa and now Europe. I’d rather see males act like men. They have limits. You want a wussy, take them. None of us object to who or what you are with.
        And I killed another long response to someone else. But, here this one is.

        Yup. We turned over the bee hives and whacked the hornet nests with this one.

        • Kafiroon

          I am not going to count this time, but, I think the percentage went higher. The lack of the Western Male being what we used to be is bringing about the downfall of our civilization. I used to wonder what would bring about the last days scenario that is related in the Bible. Now it is here. Men giving in for anything the whiners demand. Male students accused for anything, denied the right to defend themselves or even question. Islam, submit or die. Black whatever, segregation and Whitey go die.
          The commenters want it. You Neanderthals need to be “reeducated.”

        • Jeps

          Women are not property, and for my part – this IS about refusing to submit to men who think they are – men who believe they have the right to forcefully «correct» womens behavior. In fact, my response to such bs is one you’d likely find preferrable if a man tried it with another man «take no abuse, arm up, don’t back down».

          But bc Sam is as woman, you want her to bow her head and take her beating and love her abuser. Just like the Islamists you claim to hate, would have her do.

          • NotYetInACamp

            Bullshit.
            Sam is not submitting.
            Sam should do the same if Zed offended her to such a degree.
            That is where the interaction they had was until Sam ceased vital communication. Not being able to believe a word he or she said is to fight to end. (fight not defined.)
            The direction is still to be determined. Now what was that rule of thumb? (That’s a joke, Son … Foghorn Leghorn)

          • Kafiroon

            Actually Jeps, I agree with a defense on your part against any man that assaults you. Make Sure that you do not overcompensate. Judges can be picky. (He hit my bum twice with a ping-pong paddle, so I shot him.) I believe your husband has a different status than just any man that “assaults” you. You really should go read Subotai’s comment again. Particularly since you capitalized ‘her’ home. Where is Zed in that? He isn’t part of making a home? I believe Wade gave that place to Zed also. So I expect he has some skin in that game.

          • Jeps

            Kafroon
            No, husbands do not get treated differently than strangers if they act physically violent. If anything, harsher, as it is an actual *betrayal* (a real one, not boo-hoo, my wife invited her sister.without me having a say).

            As for judges. If the *law* is fair and just, it won’t treat a woman defending herself against a man overpowering and beating her, different than it would a man doing the same.

          • Kafiroon

            Better re-figure “beating”. The Law depends upon what judge you get. Fair and Just caught the last train to the coast long ago.

    • Grunt GI

      Duh, now I just got the title of today’s strip. Yup Zed has gone total alpha male and is definitely going to “game” Sam.

      And yes, I suspect she will respond positively. Now Zed will get to kiss it and make it better…

      • Chris Muir

        Winner#2

  • Renegade

    First time commenting, although I have enjoyed this series for years.
    Amazing how many wussies there are who suddenly have a issue with the story…. this is not the first time someone has been spanked without a negotiation – and, as noted above, the sequence that has led up to this point could have had far worse consequences than a man retaking control of his life.
    I have 15 years of LEO experience, and over 25 years of lifestyle experience – yes, the ALT/Fetish lifestyle. I have seen real abuse; the kind that puts the victim in the hospital…. or the grave. This scene is right up there with McClintock or other similar scenes in movies or TV – “non-consensual” but not true abuse. Sure, if Sam decides to go that way, she could file charges (esp in today’s world), but I think that the bond between her and Zed is easily strong enough to get past this whole episode (I certainly hope so).
    Every couple has their own ways of dealing with things, and their own limits on themselves and each other. Stop judging before you see what results.
    And hey, if you are so triggered by a freaking cartoon, then please, just shut up and stop reading it!

  • m225

    Not digging this. Could this be a dream sequence? If not I’m gone.

    • pdwalker

      not a dream sequence.

      see ya snowflake.

    • JSStryker

      Well…bye

    • Chris Muir

      Hang in there, M ’twill all be made clear.;)

  • vluc

    We don’t see ALL of the parts of the Sam-Zed relationship. Maybe that is a part of it that both have agreed to?

    Let the sequence run before going spastic.

  • ContrarianView

    How did all these feminazi snowflakes suddenly show up here? Did one of their propaganda outlets organize it? The number of commenters who threaten to leave is eerily similar to the bots who threaten to boycott the advertisers on conservative media programs (Rush, Hannity, etc). Turns out those “thousands” of angry emailers were really just a couple of paid operatives using bot software.

  • Pamela

    Would some one please tell me why Sam is bare legged and wearing what looks to be a pair of black stiletto heels…

    • PaulS

      I thought that about the shoes too, but closer inspection revealed no spike.

    • Larry

      And she is bare legged because Zed told her to take her pants down on the previous strip.

  • March Hare

    Is Sam wearing a dress and heels? I’m reading this on my phone, so I may have missed some details, but I don’t see pants down around her legs. I thought she was working on the ‘Cuda?

  • 'TreHammer

    I’m with m225 (see above)…CM has a way of looking one way but going the other so I’ll wait and see what happens…otherwise…?…

    • Chris Muir

      Tattletale.heh

  • Unca Walt

    Spankies.

    SJW’s threatening to go away to a safer place.

    Pilgrims, it is a well-drawn cartoon.

    There is a lesson here for all regarding TRUST. Like virginity, it is hard to recover it without a major shift in the world’s axis.

    Sam got two whacks. Better that a divorce and the total loss of all she holds dear.

    That is what she foolishly risked for no sensible reason whatsoever.

    My redhead has a comment… HEY! UNIQUE!! A more-than-half-century happily married couple (with one being a perfect redhead) gets to join in with opinion.

    Here she is:

    Hello. This is PC. In my opinion, Sam is delighted/relieved. She can point to her hiney and consider the redness to be redemption for her insanely stupid betrayal.

    Back to Unca again.

    There It Is.

  • PaulS

    WOW!!!
    Rorschach much?
    Chris, you naughty boy. (Ingrish accent)

  • LowKey

    I think the snowflakes here either had ill informed teachers or weren’t paying attention when they were told of the restriction against striking females. For those who are %100 sure that their Daddy taught them that there is never a justification for a man striking a woman, your father was paraphrasing for the sake of brevity or somewhere along the line a male in your family failed to have passed onto the next generation the full rule. Something that seems to have happened quite a bit after WW1, I suspect because so many who knew and understood those rules, on both sides of the conflict, died en mass before having passed them along.

    The actual original rules of polite society from which we gained that sentiment is not, “You never strike a woman”, it is, “Never strike a lady”.
    For example a female trying to stab you, unprovoked, with a butcher knife isn’t conducting herself as a lady, and she doesn’t gain the protective status accorded to one. Anyone here make a fuss over the female Antifa getting hit while she was trying to hit people with a bottle?
    If a woman wants to be treated as a lady she must adhere to the conduct required of one, and one of the things a lady does not do is betray her husband’s trust.

    Sam’s keeping secret that Skye und kinder were coming to stay at the DD in direct contravention of the understanding that Sam and Zed had in which Skye would never return to darken their door was not only a betrayal of trust between two people in a relationship that relies on being able to trust without question or reservation, it was dishonorable and cowardly and decidedly not the conduct of a lady.

    Had it been matter of having extended hospitality to her sister unilaterally without consulting her partner in marriage before making the decision but then informing her partner of what she’d done would have been grounds for some very cold nights, tension, and perhaps arguments for having gone against their mutual decision
.just as Sam might give to Zed if he violated an understanding between them. Cause for domestic tension and disharmony, but normally not something that destroys a marriage. Sometimes necessity may force your hand, sometimes we make stupid but honest errors of judgment.
    In this case there was also the element of deceit, and THAT is where it moved into the realm of potentially destroying their marriage.

    She can accept the paddling as penalty for violating that trust and try behaving as a lady once more, with all the duties and privileges thereunto, or she can ask for and receive a divorce based on grounds of the paddling. Ball is in her court. Had Zed behaved as other than a gentleman and she slapped him in the face not one of you would have raised a peep.

    • Grunt GI

      “Had Zed behaved as other than a gentleman and she slapped him in the face not one of you would have raised a peep.”

      Well done…agree 100%. Excellent summation of the situation.

    • Merle

      Yep, not all females qualify as ladies…..

  • PaulS

    * No real humans were harmed in the storyline above. If you feel physically assaulted based on bits and bytes expressed in graphics you should tuff’n up buttercup. 🙂

    I can’t recall any of “you know who you are” getting your panties in a twist over much worse suggestions regarding treatment of Skye. Hmmm……

    • Kafiroon

      With 1 swing of the hammer, that nail is Flat!

  • Alaska Paul

    This is a different situation, but let me tell you of our situation. M’Lady and I, my sister, our childhood friend and M’Lady’s fellow student from grad school did the Coast to Coast walk across northern England. Started great but in the second half the behaviors of my sister became demeaning and abusive toward the rest of the group. We mentioned this to my sister but she did not care. It even came to inappropriate behavior with one of the owners of the B&B. It was not a good situation at all. To make a long story short, after the trip was over, M’Lady and I discussed this at length and she summarized this thus:

    You can pick your friends but not your family. However with respect to your sister you must set boundaries and not be used or manipulated by her.

    That is what we did and it was a good solution. With respect to Skye in the cartoon, she is is a poisonous personality. She needs to to change her behavior to live in the group, and not the group adapting to her level. She needs to go and boundaries need to be set. Then Zed and Sam need to talk and understand how they got to this situation. Painful but honest communication will eventually strengthen the relationship.

  • sigofmugmort

    Just my Half-Penny thoughts:

    Many of the comments show just how bad a double standard there is

    According to both the F.B.I domestic violence reports and the Kinsky Institutes studies Domestic violence is at least as commonly committed by women as men.

    As a Spanko, A Ping-Pong Paddle is a LIGHT instrument on the smooth side. It makes a lot of noise and redness but tends to BREAK if any significant force is used. A large calloused hand (like Zed’s) would be capable of REAL bruising

    Sam committed a major relationship blunder, Quiet Man/McKlintock time.

  • Steve H

    If this were reality I would STRONGLY advise evicting Skye, no questions asked, work to gain custody of her kids (optional, but shouldn’t be too difficult to prove unfit motherhood – maybe Grandmother shout take them?).
    Since this is a cartoon, she does have ONE redeeming quality – she is a useful plot device.

    • Steve H

      should, not shout

    • LowKey

      Aside from the blunder of showing up unannounced to Zed, which in all fairness may not be her fault but Sam’s, I don’t know that she’s done anything wrong at all aside from being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
      Her copying Sam’s appearance isn’t some dastardly scheme to get Zed, it’s a habit she’s had since childhood when she’s scared.
      She didn’t appear to try use the mis-fortunate mistaken identity encounter to create drama or use it to her advantage, but treated it as it was…a case of mistaken identity with no harm intended.

      So if she behaves like a responsible grown-up, allowing for a few slips here and there as she learns how to be a responsible adult for the first time, I’d be inclined to give her a chance. She’s already taken steps to try and change, now we just need to see if those changes take root and grow.

      Remember Zed mumbling something to the effect that one sister could be like the other which most here took to be him thinking of Sam’s rather Skye like act of deceit against him? Well the flip side to that thought is that Skye has the potential to be as generally level headed as Sam usually has been.
      Much as we love to despise her, Skye might actually be able to turn over a new leaf if given a chance now that she’s seen what the snowflake crowd really represents. It’s even possible Zed recognizes this, however reluctantly and with ample reservations. After all, he didn’t toss her ass out the door.

      Before anyone brings up her return as a faux pas on her part as Zed told her never to set foot there again, Sam issuing an invitation or okay-ing would abrogate that ban. One of the possible reasons Zed is so upset with Sam.

  • 'TreHammer

    If Sam is smiling maybe that says more about Sam than it does about Zed.

  • canuck49

    Married to my late wife for 43 years, together for 45. Never once laid a hand on her in anger.
    We solved all our differences with Reason. Anger clouds the judgment and must be avoided.
    I will now dismount the moral high-horse.

  • Halley

    Sam has been an utterly exemplary, to say the very f’n least, wife. Zed knows this. Sam knows this. All is well. As two alphas go, they’ve had minimal friction (except where it counts). All is well.

  • WayneM

    As much as I enjoy DBD and no matter how engaging I find the characters and story arcs, I recognize this is a web-comic… not reality…

    It never ceases to baffle me how people can watch gore-soaked violent movies without a negative comment but get their panties in a wedge over a cartoon depiction of someone getting paddled.

    Interestingly enough, I’ve lost a few friends back when DBD appeared on Facebook as they could not understand why I was liking and/or commenting on a web-comic where racy themes appear. Less so of late… lol

    In my humble opinion, Chris is challenging social and/or political problems with wit, wisdom and insight… expanding horizons and thought provoking. Different people react in different ways to those challenges. Their reaction is on THEM, not on Chris…

    Keep calm and DBD on!!

    • Grunt GI

      Eh, I agree with you 100%…as Sgt Hulka says- “Lighten up Francis!”

      AND

      What a brilliant swag idea….T-shirts and coffee mugs with KEEP CALM AND DBD ON…with awesome pictures of the DBD gals thrown in…

      • Grunt, I daresay your idea should make it to the next DBD fund drive… (are you listening, Chris?)

      • Pamela

        Please add the DBD Men to the coffee mugs.
        I’ll have a large. Er… I mean a 16 ounce coffee mug.

    • Chris Muir

      Stealing this.Just so you know.

      • Grunt GI

        Steal away.

        Can’t wait to see them.

  • BigD

    Maybe some of the snowflakes here can use Zed as an Alpha-Male role model.

  • Pamela

    If this were a REAL LIFE situation of consenting adults with a penchant for some BDSM or a payment for services rendered, no one would be saying a damn thing. Considering the popularity of the badly written 50 Shades of … series of books, how many of the commenters would be cool with the spanking? Or if Sam were doing some C.B.T. to Zed at his request would they be protesting as vehemently.

    I’m going to go start another batch of vanilla.

    • Grunt GI

      Using Vodka or Rum? My wife uses both. 🙂

      and darn good point….about the 50 Shades of Aweful. What did they call it…Mommy Porn? Yea, except if the guy wasn’t a billionaire it would be a bad episode of Criminal Minds.

      • Pamela

        Rum, Vodka, Tequila, Bourbon and Whiskey.
        I sent Chris a bottle of Rum Vanilla for Christmas.

        GG ~ I agree about the correlation to a bad episode but for the money.

        • Grunt GI

          So, I’m not sure if I should be impressed or nervous that you know what CBT is. 🙂

          However, the idea of making vanilla with bourbon is strangely appealing.

          And shower makeup sex seems like a good idea…

          • Pamela

            GG

            Let’s just say I knew people that enjoyed Dungeons without the Dragons before it became more main stream. I’ve never been one for pain mixed with pleasure or the associated restraints or implements of that lifestyle. Considering the antibiotic resistant critters floating around these days, a person really needs to be prudent with their choices.

  • Pat*

    I’ve already tried twice to comment. Looks like my comments aren’t welcome.

    • JTC

      Pat*, takes a bit for a new commenter to be vetted as a non-bot or troll…looks like you’re getting through now, what’s on your mind?

    • Chris Muir

      Try again.Your 2 previous were blasting other readers.

  • Old Codger

    When I was growing up my Momma told me a story about about something that happened in the small town where I was born some time before my folks were married. Seems there was this asshole who liked to go out and get drunk whereupon he’d come home and proceed to beat his wife black and blue. One night she decided she’d had enough. The asshole had passed out on top of the bedspread. She proceeded to sew him up in that bedspread and beat the holy hell out of him with a broom handle. When she wore the broom handle she grabbed the mop. Busted him up something awful. Broke several ribs, cracked his scull and in general beat him within the width of a blond pubic hair of his life. Then she packed up some things and headed for her sister’s house across town. Eventually he came to, hurting worse than he eever had before – and that was on top of the hangover. He managed to extricate himself from the bedspread and got a friend to take him to the local hospital. They admitted him after taking some x-rays are were somewhat amazed he managed to get there on his own steam. Anyhow the authorities were called and when the Sheriff heard about it he went to the hospital to hear the man’s story himself. When the guy finished, the Sheriff looked at him and said, “Well, she didn’t kill ya. Mine would’ve. And if I ever find out you have laid a hand on her again, you’ll wish she had!”

    When she finished the story my momma asked me if I knew the moral of the story. I said, “No, maam.” She said, “The moral of the story is ‘You gotta sleep some time.”

    Yessir. We all gotta sleep sometime.

    • JTC

      OC, seems like y’all missed the moral; she shoulda “packed up some things and headed for her sister’s house across town” after the first black and blue episode and documented it with sis and LE, if that’s all it took to end the abuse. Then if he came after her and she genuinely feared for her life and safety, it’s time to use Jeps final solution.

      The difference for Jeps of course, is that to her what should always be the last and final line of defense (which is life-ending for both parties; the shootee literally and the shooter for all intents and purposes, ask Zimmerman about that), is in her untrained and/or unstable mind, her first and foremost reaction to any perceived level of mistreatment or domination.

      And lest she and others claim gender inequality in that retreat strategy, (and if Zed and Sam’s situation does not “play” out and “come” to a consensual conclusion), then HE should retreat. For how long? That is the great unknown, especially to Sam.

      As I said above I can’t imagine a worse punishment for Sam’s disregard and disrespect for her husband than to see the tailgate of that old pickup truck rolling into the distance…her self-recrimination and the realization that she may have ruined and driven away her lover/protector/provider/soulmate forever would be far worse than anything Z could inflict with that paddle.

      • Jeps

        Using my gun is the first/last resort for *physical* force. Like Zed is doing here. And the only ppl who have a problem with that, are those who think men should be able to get physically forceful with women w/o fear of reprecussions.

        As for running and hiding, no. Real women hurt their abuser *back*. A man does not walk away unharmed from harming a woman with any self-respect. If that is too un-«PC».. too bad.

        • JTC

          A killin’ for a spankin’…of your lovemate/lifemate no less. Wow.

          As I said, untrained or very seriously mis-trained. The very first rule of winning a gunfight is don’t get into one. The very first rule of deadly defense is try to avoid it at *almost* any cost. Retreat, retreat, retreat.

          Somewhere up there in psycho land you said anyone who laid a finger on you to attempt to correct your behavior would wind up dead. Maybe that’s why your firearms trainer bailed on that gig before altering that thought process, and why any psychoanalyst whose help you very much need and who values his own life will retreat, retreat, retreat! from that one. 😉

          • Jeps

            JTC
            «a killing for a spanking»
            No more or less than would likely happen if a grown man tries to subdue and beat another grown man in the self-respecting, gun-carrying part of the States.

            Your idea that it’s a man doing it to a woman or a spouse doing it to his/her significant other is *mitigating*, is quite frankly ridicolous in my eyes.

      • Kafiroon

        Right on that one. Half a continent away and many many years later I round about heard the tale of woe expressed because I left. Thank God there were no children to trap me there.

        • Kafiroon

          To JTC, and those that learn.

    • Pamela

      I had a cousin that used a cast iron skillet after the first time.
      My cousin’s Mama threatened to skin and gut him. They got divorced.

    • The 300

      Hey Codger, did this happen in southern Illinois in the late 70s? I had a girlfriend chasing a law enforcement degree at SIU who had a case very similar to this for a follow up as a parole officer.

  • Steve Butler

    Disappointed. This should not happen in a committed relationship. Even if he was tricked into sex with his sister-in-law.

    • Pamela

      If Zed had been tricked into fornication with Skye, he would have high tailed it in to see the Doc for tests and treatment. Sam on the other hand would not be in a listening or sharing mood. She would be totally PISSED and Skye would be totally shit out of luck.

  • Unca Walt

    Is this a site record here? 162 comments!!

    Spankies grabs everyone’s attention, apparently.

  • Pat*

    I’ve commented before, that isn’t the problem. I don’t know what was.

    Zed is no white knight, indeed…

    First: what did happen with Skye? Just a fondle? If she’s really a “new and improved Skye”, she should’ve been backing up as soon as Zed reached for her, or pulled away from him if she got groped from behind. Did anything else actually happen? Chris is leaving us in the dark here.

    Second: I hope Chris has thought this one through, because I lost an hour of sleep, thinking about the future. Are we heading for an abusive relationship? – which undiscussed “family decisions” will cause Zed to hit Sam again? What if he says the girls can’t get their ears pierced until they’re 15, and Sam takes them to town for that on the day before their birthdays, without Zed’s lordly permission – does Zed grab her arm and end up breaking her wrist? What if he says they can’t date until they’re 17, but when they’re 16, they’re invited to a chaperoned dance, and Sam takes the time to vet not only the young men who want to escort them, but every one of the young men’s kinfolk out to second cousins, as well as vetting every adult chaperone, and lets the girls go on this date, without Zed’s lordly permission – does he shove Sam down the stairs? And will this extend to the girls – what will they end up doing that will earn them a bare-ass paddling? Or will they have to witness their mother being hit?

    Third: what about the near future – where does this story arc go? Make-up sex? I for one am not buying that. This is something that should have been settled (IMHO) with a shouted argument. Or, by Zed taking the girls and leaving for a week, so that Sam could think about how badly she’d screwed up, and what she was going to have to do to regain Zed’s trust. Or both of these things.

    Fourth: some people have referred to others as betas, snowflakes, and buttercups, or as psychopaths. That made me angry. I’m no snowflake, I’m proud to have a concealed carry permit *and* to say I can hit what I aim at, I’m proudly married to an alpha, and let me tell you, my husband and I may have a screaming argument about every decade or so, but it has NEVER gone physical. EVER. When something’s my fault, I admit it, and I fix it. I’m not the most assertive wife that’s ever existed, but I would NOT put up with being hit.

    Fifth: If that were me, I’m grabbing my girls, my cell phone, and my handguns, and I’m driving away to get a restraining order. I’m making sure the bruising is documented. Zed is ex-military, and looks like a homeless bum these days (Chris, can’t he afford a haircut?) – I expect I wouldn’t have too much trouble getting the restraining order. “He *held me down* and he hit me – look at the bruises! He used to be Special Forces – I don’t know what he’ll do next!” If Zed calls and wants to meet me to talk, we’re doing it at a police station, with cameras rolling. I’m not taking any chances. One physical act – whether you insist it be called spanking, paddling, or beating – is one too many.

    If Zed gets physical again, there’s some chance he’ll be eating some 9mm hollow points. I’m not being psychopathic here, I’m looking at the size, weight, and strength disparity and I’m using the only means of self-defense I have. “God made men great and small, but Sam Colt made them equal, all”.

    I told my husband, the day he brought the first handgun into the house was the day from which henceforward we would both have to be very nice to each other – and, thank God, he laughed. And we continue to be very nice to each other.

  • SheepDog

    To all the folks who are so upset about this situation and what is happening, I have but one question for you. “Reverse the situation, the roles, the genders. Given the possible outcomes of all of this, how do you feel about it now?” I stated earlier that if this had happened to me, in Zeds situation, I’d have showed them both to the door. Skye showing up was not an accidental thing, it was planned out. Zed was betrayed by Sam. Actions do have consequences. Zed is upset, and has a right to be. This could be a lot worse than it is. With Zeds background and training, a lot worse. But, Zed loves Sam and just needs to make the point, this is not acceptable in our relationship.

  • nadadhimmi

    This isn’t political satire, it’s Soap Opera.

  • JTC

    Come on 200! What do we win?

  • Jeps

    Any man trying to hurt me would end up hurt worse up himself, that is a promise «alpha» mike, and *that* is the real world – not your insane Gor-fantasy.

    Get over yourself, women are not yours to «correct» or dominate. I don’t know where Chris is going with this, yet, but irl any woman with self respect would leave Zed bleeding, divorced and alone.

  • I can’t believe how some of y’all are losing your minds today. What Sam did was very, very wrong, and she deserves an attitude adjustment.

    Chris is telling a story, not programming your kindergardeners.

    As far as the hand washing, where do you think he might have put his fingers that would have required such concentrated cleaning (front door, don’t be too dirty minded)? Get over the paddling and think of what happened, or worse, could have happened.

    • J

      Since he is only shown grabbing her bust, I assumed he was washing off the miasma of having touched Skye.

      As to today’s situation: I wouldn’t have done that. But I also know that Sam is perfectly capable of getting away from him if she really wants to. I am also reasonably confident that Zeb wouldn’t have done that if he thought it would destroy his marriage. I just hope this is not a case of two wrongs make a left.

      “As God is my witness, if hope that when I go down at last, my best beloved will have better to say than ‘he never hit me.'”
      — Miles Vorkosigan, Komarr by Lois McMaster Bujold
      Zeb’s lost that, at least, whatever else happens.

  • Slider

    @Pat and Jeps: “Alpha”Mike’s comment was deleted. Wish I could say that was likely to have taught him any kind of lesson.

    • Chris Muir

      Because he was insulting other readers.No can do.

  • Don

    Not really to my taste but it’s not my story line. This is consistent with the dom/sub nature of the relationship that has been portrayed in the past. Anything from Zed displaying a nude replica of her in his bar to _requiring_ back door access during sex.

  • J

    For the record, when I refreshed the counter showed 199 comments so I am doing this just to push it over the top.

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